Re: Welsh Language In Trouble
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Originally Posted by
Sunnysideup
My experience of being educated through a Catholic system wasn’t good
You are taught through repetition
Constantly reciting prayers in many of the assemblies each day with non compliance resulting in violence - we were assaulted with the cane from the headmaster for not attending church and suffered beatings from “Dai the Dap” from the Deputy head Mr Connors
How people say school years were the best years is laughable
Welsh education all the way 👍
Didn't all schools have the cane?
Whatever the school these days, they can't teach like that anymore.
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Citizen's Nephew - how/where have you been learning Greek?
I have Greek heritage and would love to learn, just don't think I have the time! Interested to hear whether you've used online methods or actual lessons.
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As mentioned earlier not a advocate of the welsh language (my partner teaches in a welsh medium school though) but Welsh speakers have been rising year on year for quite a while
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Why is someone a 'plastic Taff' f they decide to learn Welsh? For someone who has a superior intellect (in your opinion) you come out with some ludicrous generalisations.
By the way, considering the fact that you are such a free thinker did you not question the nonsense peddled by your Grammar School teacher regarding language that is widely accepted as being archaic rather than the correct version they claimed it to be?
Ey ?
Um , well we all come out with ludicrous crap occasionally don’t we ? All part of the fun of language and eventually productive discussion.
Of course I questioned the silly old bugger by the way. I don’t think I suggested that he had it right, but was commenting critically on the argument that we should use whatever words our teachers used - in this case “maths”rather than “math”
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FungoFurore
Citizen's Nephew - how/where have you been learning Greek?
I have Greek heritage and would love to learn, just don't think I have the time! Interested to hear whether you've used online methods or actual lessons.
I've bought books from Amazon and use anything I can get free online as well as the free version of Duolingo (there's an iPhone App). The hardest part is the alphabet - I'm great if everything is upper case but rubbish still with lower case letters!
Read and Speak Greek for Beginners with Audio CD, 2nd Edition (Read & Speak for Beginners)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Greek Script Hacking: The optimal pathway to learn the Greek alphabet (Teach Yourself)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Go for it! 10 mins a day is better than nothing at all. Good luck!
Oh, and I read somewhere recently that the most popular language learned on Duolingo is Welsh! Mrs CN uses it and loves it.
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
I've bought books from Amazon and use anything I can get free online as well as the free version of Duolingo (there's an iPhone App). The hardest part is the alphabet - I'm great if everything is upper case but rubbish still with lower case letters!
Read and Speak Greek for Beginners with Audio CD, 2nd Edition (Read & Speak for Beginners)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Greek Script Hacking: The optimal pathway to learn the Greek alphabet (Teach Yourself)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Go for it! 10 mins a day is better than nothing at all. Good luck!
Oh, and I read somewhere recently that the most popular language learned on Duolingo is Welsh! Mrs CN uses it and loves it.
I had duolingo for Spanish, it was great to be fair, but at the time I didn't have enough time or will to learn it so I got a refund..
Working with a few North Walians now and I've thought about getting the app back to learn Welsh. My boss mentioned welsh being the most popular language on the as well.
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Shouldn't this thread be titled "Welsh Arts Council in trouble" anyway ? Why the need to shot on the language.
Regarding the ability to speak welsh in the public sphere, I would prefer a non-white doctor who speaks to me in Welsh than a white, english-speaking monoglot.No offence.
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dembethewarrior
I had duolingo for Spanish, it was great to be fair, but at the time I didn't have enough time or will to learn it so I got a refund..
Working with a few North Walians now and I've thought about getting the app back to learn Welsh. My boss mentioned welsh being the most popular language on the as well.
You can use the free version - which is cool if you don't have a lot of time. I wish I could remember where I read about Welsh being the most popular but I'm glad you've confirmed I didn't dream it. Get the App back on that phone!
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Also, it seems that policies that aim to safeguard the rights of the language and a Welsh-speaker's right to use their language is at odds with policies regarding quotas for people from ethnic minorities. It is quite an interesting debate and one that throws up tension between different, vulnerable collectives........welsh speakers vs welsh people from non-white families. It reminds me a little bit of the tension between feminists and transgender people.
As far as I see it, there is a difference between not filling a quota and being actively racist. If the Arts Council for Wales were rejecting non-white welsh speakers who were qualified for the job, then you might consider that they were not fullfilling a legal requirement regarding quotas.
It interesting that the The Welsh Arts Anti-Racist Union have zero publications in the welsh language. That seems a little bit inconsistent considering they aim to protect the rights of communities who form a minority group within wales ..... as a welsh speaker I would consider myself part of a minorty group within my own country and am subject to the same stereotypes and ignorance that many non-white people are subject to ...... as a few of the comments in this very thread are testament to.
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Welsh being the most popular language on Duolingo sounds like an urban myth. Unsurprisingly, it's English, and always has been.
Duolingo has a test which was used by some universities and educational institutions as an alternative to a regular language test during covid, so English popularity has only increased on there.
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
I've bought books from Amazon and use anything I can get free online as well as the free version of Duolingo (there's an iPhone App). The hardest part is the alphabet - I'm great if everything is upper case but rubbish still with lower case letters!
Read and Speak Greek for Beginners with Audio CD, 2nd Edition (Read & Speak for Beginners)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Greek Script Hacking: The optimal pathway to learn the Greek alphabet (Teach Yourself)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Go for it! 10 mins a day is better than nothing at all. Good luck!
Oh, and I read somewhere recently that the most popular language learned on Duolingo is Welsh! Mrs CN uses it and loves it.
Thanks, alphabet has always been my biggest barrier! I'll give some or these a go.
Also re: Welsh and Duolingo... It was (maybe still is) the fastest growing language by number of learners, rather the most popular language. Still, pretty impressive stat.
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WJ99mobile
As mentioned earlier not a advocate of the welsh language (my partner teaches in a welsh medium school though) but Welsh speakers have been rising year on year for quite a while
Yes they are trying to take over other schools in cardiff too. The council are being given grants so Welsh places get them more funds than English ones….they won’t admit this but I know people who work there which is the sole reason for encouraging the pointless language.
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goats
Yes they are trying to take over other schools in cardiff too. The council are being given grants so Welsh places get them more funds than English ones….they won’t admit this but I know people who work there which is the sole reason for encouraging the pointless language.
it's the language I speak to my mum, my dad, my sister, my friends from home. It's the language I spoke to my grandparents when they were still alive, as did my parents, it's the language I speak to my little nieces now. So who the hell are you to decide it's pointless?
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delmbox
it's the language I speak to my mum, my dad, my sister, my friends from home. It's the language I spoke to my grandparents when they were still alive, as did my parents, it's the language I speak to my little nieces now. So who the hell are you to decide it's pointless?
I was going to explain…..but it’s pointless :biggrin: