Cultural Appropriation

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Bloody racist.

Country music's origins are in a large part derived from music originating on the plantations. The banjo is an African instrument.

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Majority of music lovers except and understand that music was derived from plantations , Africa, and early Greek philosophers like Pythagoras , and folk music this is a political bullshit and point scoring, if someone can give a view on music it doesn't matter what colour they are, it's just an opinion, life is not a about placing someone in a role because of skin colour .

Music is inspiration a joy to all from the foothills of Asia through Africa , Greece and beyond and should be devoid of skin colour classification.

Just tell me if I can dance at the Nile concert.

Does this work both ways? Anne Boleyn wasn’t black!

Clearly the view by many that the BBC is full of politically correct luvvy lefties is cobblers as I can't think of a dafter and more unsuitable presenter

The Beeb have missed a trick here

Lisa Stansfield perhaps but Cheryl Cole , dear me

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Originally Posted by cityhammer

Does this work both ways? Anne Boleyn wasn’t black!

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Yes he was !

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Clearly the view by many that the BBC is full of politically correct luvvy lefties is cobblers as I can't think of a dafter and more unsuitable presenter

The Beeb have missed a trick here

Lisa Stansfield perhaps but Cheryl Cole , dear me

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Like I said previously the podcast is about Cheryl and her influences surely, no one else could present it. What if it was a podcast by Paul Weller and how he has been influenced by black music, would that be unacceptable?

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Originally Posted by cityhammer

Like I said previously the podcast is about Cheryl and her influences surely, no one else could present it. What if it was a podcast by Paul Weller and how he has been influenced by black music, would that be unacceptable?

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In my view why are they giving airspace to Cheryl Cole to present a programme about rnb ?

Why not get a successful young black musician to present a show about his or her influences ?

It seems pointless to give a person that is not taken seriously as a trailblazer in modern music to present a show on how rnb has influenced her

Paul Weller , boring as he is , I could appreciate

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Majority of music lovers except and understand that music was derived from plantations , Africa, and early Greek philosophers like Pythagoras , and folk music this is a political bullshit and point scoring, if someone can give a view on music it doesn't matter what colour they are, it's just an opinion, life is not a about placing someone in a role because of skin colour .

Music is inspiration a joy to all from the foothills of Asia through Africa , Greece and beyond and should be devoid of skin colour classification.

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I agree! I was just lampooning the absurdity of the whole identity politics theory, of which cultural appropriation is a subset.

There are times to be emotionally intelligent about sensitivities around cultural appropriation but generally speaking its used by a load of skin colour obsessives who would only drive us apart.

All cultures are free to enjoy all cultural pursuits.

I honestly struggle to get my head around this sort of thing. In the fifties and sixties, ports like Liverpool were the scene for the importing of records, often Rhythm and Blues records by black artists, brought back by sailors returning from America. In many cases, no one could be certain whether the artists involved were black or white - it didn’t matter, people just liked the music for what it was. Kids that were into this music were the foundation for the Mersey sound where, almost exclusively white bands would use cover versions of records the sailors brought back as filler for albums (or even singles in rare cases) and when someone like the Beatles were behind it, a huge audience were introduced to music and artists they were unfamiliar with.

Dusty Springfield was in a trio which sang “family orientated” drivel most of the time, but as soon as she went solo, it became apparent that she had a superb R and B voice which earned her a great deal of money and fame. However, she gave an awful lot back in the way she promoted black music and artists who were both grateful to her for the exposure she was given them and respectful of her talent - I’d say that respect stemmed from the fact that she entirely “got” the music, almost entirely by black artists, she was publicising on her TV show.

Dusty Springfield also spoke out against apartheid in the sixties, we’ll before it became “fashionable” to do so, yet the way some talk, she shouldn’t have been allowed to - it’s absurd!

On the other hand, football is a part of life that could certainly do with the sort of reaction we’re seeing directed at Cheryl Cole. Although things seem to be improving, albeit way too slowly, in terms of black managers and coaches, the game is like a throwback to the seventies and eighties when the emerging African nations were uniformly coached and managed by white men because, bluntly, blacks were considered far too thick to understand the complexities of the game. Such thinking persists to some extent today’s day yet people get all worked up the colour of someone presenting a show dedicated to celebrating black music!

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Originally Posted by cityhammer

If he was influenced by C&W I think that would be an interesting podcast, but I’m guessing he wasn’t, so it’s a shit example to use!

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Listen mate, I think she's fit too but I don't think she reads this board and even if she does I don't think she's going to be private messaging you to organize a thank you date so go for a walk or something

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Listen mate, I think she's fit too but I don't think she reads this board and even if she does I don't think she's going to be private messaging you to organize a thank you date so go for a walk or something

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What a weird reaction to a post. I can’t personally stand her or her music, but to get worked up because she’s made a podcast about what influenced her seems rather over the top.

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Originally Posted by cityhammer

What a weird reaction to a post. I can’t personally stand her or her music, but to get worked up because she’s made a podcast about what influenced her seems rather over the top.

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We laugh at Delmebox round these parts bruv.

Erm laugh with.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Majority of music lovers except and understand that music was derived from plantations , Africa, and early Greek philosophers like Pythagoras , and folk music this is a political bullshit and point scoring, if someone can give a view on music it doesn't matter what colour they are, it's just an opinion, life is not a about placing someone in a role because of skin colour .

Music is inspiration a joy to all from the foothills of Asia through Africa , Greece and beyond and should be devoid of skin colour classification.

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What's your opinion on female football pundits giving their opinion on men's professional football, and being critical. I can't remember you being all for it.

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Listen mate, I think she's fit too but I don't think she reads this board and even if she does I don't think she's going to be private messaging you to organize a thank you date so go for a walk or something

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She's lost too much weight in my view

And I have told her so

Cultural appropriation is a load of bollocks. Who cares where something originated. Surely the individual is free to adopt whatever culture they want as their own, if that's what they are into. Imitation is the highest form of flattery after all.

And one thing is for sure, without our African brethren, music would be shit. Whether it's rock or house, almost all of it has its roots from the African diaspora.. So why not celebrate the influences that permeate our culture, without which, life would be ****ing dull indeed

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Originally Posted by Feedback

Cultural appropriation is a load of bollocks. Who cares where something originated. Surely the individual is free to adopt whatever culture they want as their own, if that's what they are into. Imitation is the highest form of flattery after all.

And one thing is for sure, without our African brethren, music would be shit. Whether it's rock or house, almost all of it has its roots from the African diaspora.. So why not celebrate the influences that permeate our culture, without which, life would be ****ing dull indeed

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Maybe we could claim cultural appropriation with regards to football? Maybe the rest of the world should still playing and just leave it up the Brits. Reintroduce the home internationals and call it the World Cup!

R&B is Rhythym and Blues.
Not the shite that's hijacked the term in the last 20 years or so.

:old:

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Originally Posted by Dave Blue

Just tell me if I can dance at the Nile concert.

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Well according to some white men can't jump or dance 🤔

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Originally Posted by bobh

R&B is Rhythym and Blues.
Not the shite that's hijacked the term in the last 20 years or so.

:old:

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Amen BOBH , robbing bathplugs , they should find their genre, like S&B

What about that fecjing Paddy McGuiness hosting Question of Sport; talk of cultural appropriation!

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Originally Posted by fingers

What about that fecjing Paddy McGuiness hosting Question of Sport; talk of cultural appropriation!

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Gary Linkear hosting MOTD for a sport that has so much cultural diversity what's that all about?

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

We laugh at Delmebox round these parts bruv.

Erm laugh with.

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We do, and in the meantime I look forward to the inevitable next thread where you're arguing with someone in weird amounts of detail about something that's not remotely important to anybody normal :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by delmbox

We do, and in the meantime I look forward to the inevitable next thread where you're arguing with someone in weird amounts of detail about something that's not remotely important to anybody normal :biggrin:

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It keeps me sane.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

It keeps me sane.

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Fair enough :hehe:

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Fair enough :hehe:

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😅👍

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Originally Posted by bobh

R&B is Rhythym and Blues.
Not the shite that's hijacked the term in the last 20 years or so.

:old:

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I often wonder when R&B became the shite that was served up by SWV