Covid passports.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Pretty painless if you have the app maybe. I don't have the app and I don't want the ****ing thing either. Neither do I want to take my mobile phone to any of the gigs where I will need this pass, so an app is no ****ing good to me.

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Well cinders, you shall not go to the ball :ayatollah:

but on a serious note, if you don't want to take your phone out the gigs, just take a screenshot, print out the pass, laminate it and you are good to go ( of course you will need to install the NHS app, but its not that big a app, its just a portal to your NHS records )

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I think you're thinking of the much maligned NHS Track and Trace app. The NHS app is separate, although I don't think it can be used for Covid passes in Wales

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indeed, had this conversation a few times recently, the evil Track and trace app is not required, its the NHS app and its just a portal to your NHS records

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Originally Posted by blue matt

indeed, had this conversation a few times recently, the evil Track and trace app is not required, its the NHS app and its just a portal to your NHS records

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its not available in wales though:sherlock:

https://gov.wales/nhs-covid-pass-pro...ination-status

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Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks

https://gov.wales/nhs-covid-pass-pro...ination-status

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Looks like there could be numerous exemptions :sherlock:

Serious question. WTF?
I coming home for a month or so in November, was hoping/expecting to go to CCS.
I’ve no idea from the thread above what I need.
I’ve got my Covid passport on the NHS app but what’s this about England v Wales issue & only lasting a month?

I’ve travelled extensively through Europe, hotels, restaurants, Legia v Leicester, not been asked once!

Tried to get one online and was told that the photo I provided of my driving licence (which was accepted by a bank and utility company for identification purposes) was not acceptable.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Tried to get one online and was told that the photo I provided of my driving licence (which was accepted by a bank and utility company for identification purposes) was not acceptable.

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On a similar note, I’ve just ordered a lease car for my wife. I haven’t had any loans, mortgages or any form of credit since 2012. As a result they asked security questions about a loan from 1998 & another from 2007, which I had no clue. My driving license was issued in 1979. They used the signature from that for my ID then told me that they’d refused the finance agreement because the signature I used (40 years later) does not match. In the end I had to forge my own signature to get it approved. It’s taken 6 weeks to get it approved.

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Originally Posted by Des Parrot

On a similar note, I’ve just ordered a lease car for my wife. I haven’t had any loans, mortgages or any form of credit since 2012. As a result they asked security questions about a loan from 1998 & another from 2007, which I had no clue. My driving license was issued in 1979. They used the signature from that for my ID then told me that they’d refused the finance agreement because the signature I used (40 years later) does not match. In the end I had to forge my own signature to get it approved. It’s taken 6 weeks to get it approved.

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Welcome to Modern Britain

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Tried to get one online and was told that the photo I provided of my driving licence (which was accepted by a bank and utility company for identification purposes) was not acceptable.

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i had the same sent another 3 photos the same and bingo it worked:hehe:

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Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks

https://gov.wales/nhs-covid-pass-pro...ination-status

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it doesnt work in wales:sherlock:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Tried to get one online and was told that the photo I provided of my driving licence (which was accepted by a bank and utility company for identification purposes) was not acceptable.

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All this online stuff is causing much anxiety Paul. Just reading this tread proves all the different views and endorsements. IT geeks find it so easy, others struggle. But i am also of the opinion that many with good IT skills are also stumbling with it, me and you included. I eventually got it sorted over the phone and we did my daughters at the same time, the mrs later tried online and gave up and eventually got through on the phone. I really feel for people who do not have phones and or IT knowledge.
Spedger

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I think they are discriminatory, and unnecessary, especially as the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission or infection. Let’s not forget the vast majority of people will have none, mild, or moderate symptoms without the vaccine anyway.

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I hope that you are in the 'vast majority' (as you say) if you get Covid.

Otherwise you could be another statistic that has needlessly put pressure on the NHS ... adding to the misery of millions of people who have not been able to get treatment for potentially life threatening conditions.

I don't know why we are flapping. Lose the next couple of games and the attendance figure will be below the covid pass threshold anyway.

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Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird

I hope that you are in the 'vast majority' (as you say) if you get Covid.

Otherwise you could be another statistic that has needlessly put pressure on the NHS ... adding to the misery of millions of people who have not been able to get treatment for potentially life threatening conditions.

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I beg your pardon ?

I’ve had Covid , according to the PCR test which is known for false positives, and for me ,like the vast majority of people was mild, no worse that a bad cold. The chief medical officers words not mine by the way.

With regards to “ putting pressure on the NHS” for a start they have lost 5,000 beds in the last year from government cuts and personally, I don’t smoke , hardly drink and exercise 5 times a week and have never been overweight which apparent increases your chances of moderate to severe symptoms ten fold.

The NHS needs a complete overhaul starting within the middle management structure. Face to face appointments would also help now that most people have received their two injections.

For a comparison, the IFR is comparable to influenza , (0.019) however , they don’t test a million people per day for that for some reason.

As a side , thankfully we do appear to be coming out of this dark period in our history.

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Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks

I don't know why we are flapping. Lose the next couple of games and the attendance figure will be below the covid pass threshold anyway.

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Ha ha indeed

I've been jabbed and I went through the tortuous process to get the digital certificate. My wife isn't so she just orders some lateral flow tests, took the code from one of them and recorded it as negative and got an email confirmation of it.

All sorted this morning by phoning:- 03003035667 :thumbup:

This for people who haven’t (or don’t want to use it) got tinternet

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

All sorted this morning by phoning:- 03003035667 :thumbup:

This for people who haven’t (or don’t want to use it) got tinternet

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How would they read that if they haven't got (or don't want to use) the internet :sherlock:

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Originally Posted by delmbox

How would they read that if they haven't got (or don't want to use) the internet :sherlock:

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Exactly, how did I even write it :hehe:

It’s information out there for maybe wives/husbands/partners who ain’t got email addresses

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Tried to get one online and was told that the photo I provided of my driving licence (which was accepted by a bank and utility company for identification purposes) was not acceptable.

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I had the exact same thing Paul.

Mine says valid in England, it’s amazing how difficult it is to work through this.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I beg your pardon ?

I’ve had Covid , according to the PCR test which is known for false positives, and for me ,like the vast majority of people was mild, no worse that a bad cold. The chief medical officers words not mine by the way.

With regards to “ putting pressure on the NHS” for a start they have lost 5,000 beds in the last year from government cuts and personally, I don’t smoke , hardly drink and exercise 5 times a week and have never been overweight which apparent increases your chances of moderate to severe symptoms ten fold.

The NHS needs a complete overhaul starting within the middle management structure. Face to face appointments would also help now that most people have received their two injections.

For a comparison, the IFR is comparable to influenza , (0.019) however , they don’t test a million people per day for that for some reason.

As a side , thankfully we do appear to be coming out of this dark period in our history.

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To be honest, I have not got a clue what you are on about.

Those who claim (and I suppose this includes you) that Covid is something we should not be too concerned about are deluded.

Some light reading for you:

https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-su...nts-in-the-nhs

Covid passes narrowly passed in the Senedd. 28 for, 27 against

Introduced from Monday

Have to add my tale........First vaccination in ENgland....second in Wales......and never the twain shall meet....not joined up......
After several months wrangling, both are recorded in NHS Wales. BUT BUT BUT.....cannot get a certificate because a) one has to be registered to a UK doctor...and b) it has to be sent to the address registered with that doctor.......
As I actually reside in France (was back in UK for a few months) this has proved insurmountable. Consequently I have not bee able to go to a restaurant with my family nor take my children to public play places in France....
It has gone round and round like pass the parcel..... NHS Wales.....Jenny Rathbone ...MP....Eluned Morgan. (Health Minister)....all to no avail. A complete and utter shambles. No-one will take accountability for finding a solution.

My eventual recourse is that later this month I will be eligible for a (3rd) booster in France, after which I can get a French Pass!!

it has to be

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Originally Posted by City123

Covid passes narrowly passed in the Senedd. 28 for, 27 against

Introduced from Monday

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Got through because 1 Conservative member couldn't connect on line to vote. A tie would have gone to the presiding officer who would have voted against.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Got through because 1 Conservative member couldn't connect on line to vote. A tie would have gone to the presiding officer who would have voted against.

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Yeah I saw that, not a good look if it's true.

Interesting that Plaid Cymru went against Labour, a way of flexing their muscles ahead of any negotiations or maybe a way to differentiate themselves ahead of the Council elections?

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Got through because 1 Conservative member couldn't connect on line to vote. A tie would have gone to the presiding officer who would have voted against.

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Tinternet fails yet again !!!

It’s great this tinternet thingy in it

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Originally Posted by Maurice Swan

Have to add my tale........First vaccination in ENgland....second in Wales......and never the twain shall meet....not joined up......
After several months wrangling, both are recorded in NHS Wales. BUT BUT BUT.....cannot get a certificate because a) one has to be registered to a UK doctor...and b) it has to be sent to the address registered with that doctor.......
As I actually reside in France (was back in UK for a few months) this has proved insurmountable. Consequently I have not bee able to go to a restaurant with my family nor take my children to public play places in France....
It has gone round and round like pass the parcel..... NHS Wales.....Jenny Rathbone ...MP....Eluned Morgan. (Health Minister)....all to no avail. A complete and utter shambles. No-one will take accountability for finding a solution.

My eventual recourse is that later this month I will be eligible for a (3rd) booster in France, after which I can get a French Pass!!

it has to be

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Absolute shambles mate. 🙄

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Tinternet fails yet again !!!

It’s great this tinternet thingy in it

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Watch out here's Fred Flintstone. 😅

Guy on BBC Wales lunchtime news said "don't worry about it saying it is only for England - it is the same in Wales"
So ignore the England only message.

Of course it would be far too difficult to amend it or get a Welsh version.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Got through because 1 Conservative member couldn't connect on line to vote. A tie would have gone to the presiding officer who would have voted against.

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Clown country.

Can see this being forcible. Police have better things to do

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I think they are discriminatory, and unnecessary, especially as the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission or infection. Let’s not forget the vast majority of people will have none, mild, or moderate symptoms without the vaccine anyway.

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It doesn’t completely stop transmission but it massively reduces the chances of transmission and infection :thumbup:

I was in France last month and had to use their app which lets you load nhs info in and it was very easy to do.

Is the NHS Wales app different to the NHS England one? I’ve used it a few times for travelling and it couldn’t be any easier really.

Welcome to Welsh government,

https://apple.news/AE8zqElQyRmOM4jz7H5CbVw

What a farce !!!

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

It doesn’t completely stop transmission but it massively reduces the chances of transmission and infection :thumbup:

I was in France last month and had to use their app which lets you load nhs info in and it was very easy to do.

Is the NHS Wales app different to the NHS England one? I’ve used it a few times for travelling and it couldn’t be any easier really.

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Even though it was promised there isnt an NHS Wales app. As far as I know you have to go through the Welsh NHS website to create a QR code.

One thing that no one knows is what defines a nightclub, so many businesses are unsure whether or not they need to ask for the pass as a condition of entry.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I think they are discriminatory, and unnecessary, especially as the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission or infection. Let’s not forget the vast majority of people will have none, mild, or moderate symptoms without the vaccine anyway.

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I know we all have short memories nowadays, but I'm pretty sure there were one or two covid issues before the vaccine.

The Abertawe Town game should be fun

I think I’m right in saying , it’s starting to affect kids now.
Well I wouldn’t be happy in the confined space af a coach, for 3 hours with loads of kids on there

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Got through because 1 Conservative member couldn't connect on line to vote. A tie would have gone to the presiding officer who would have voted against.

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Almost unbelievable but this is Wales in 2021

I scanned my passport on to laptop. No issues then. It wouldn't accept a photo I'd, taken on my phone.
I'm all for the passports but argee the vote in the Synedd was a farce.