Tomlin Released

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Originally Posted by Michael Morris

Still one of the best passes ever:

https://www.facebook.com/theEFL/videos/227581861930312/

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Knew it was going to be that one :thumbup: - his goal that day was a beauty as well.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Surely they would have to to pay up his full contract. It's not like he's going to get another one like the one he signed. I can't see where the club would've made a saving, unless something was written into his contract. Here you go Lee, would you take 50% of your contract so that you bugger off? Not a chance. He's finished, this was his last payout.

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Well, good point, but... if you were Tomlin would you prefer to....

have to come into training every day, be officially employed by city, attend all the necessary training and PR activities ... for 100% of your salary knowing you will never be fit enough or picked again....

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Take a 50% or 40% hit on our contract and be released immediately to pursue whatever interests you have - inside or outside of football.


Personally I would take the latter.

He can get another club in January in England, or abroad now (India?) if he is able to .. or pursue his other business ventures.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Knew it was going to be that one :thumbup: - his goal that day was a beauty as well.

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https://youtu.be/KmtvMETGB0g

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Originally Posted by life on mars

It's the new bad back

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You are So Very Out of Touch, it ain’t the new bad back.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

I'm not I have some very serous depression issues going on with one of my children since the birth of her children for the last 10 years its bloody tough .

All I can see is the same trend at every club he has been at , one can have stress but still keep fit and play a part in life , until someone provides me with real evidence of diagnosis ,or proof he's sought help at a a top end facility which he could easily afford I will not be convinced , in my opinion he has used this as an excuse not to play ,when you have a manager who states at a press conference "I don't know where he is, not heard form him this week" its speaks volumes .

If I'm proved wrong I will humbly apologies , if he is not suffering then its very poor indeed for the real cases in life .

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Could it be the same issues club to club are because of.. I dunno... Mental health?

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

https://youtu.be/KmtvMETGB0g

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Thanks :thumbup:

You could have used the strap line:

He's gone

To have given us a very brief element of hope.

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Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird

Well, good point, but... if you were Tomlin would you prefer to....

have to come into training every day, be officially employed by city, attend all the necessary training and PR activities ... for 100% of your salary knowing you will never be fit enough or picked again....

Or

Take a 50% or 40% hit on our contract and be released immediately to pursue whatever interests you have - inside or outside of football.


Personally I would take the latter.

He can get another club in January in England, or abroad now (India?) if he is able to .. or pursue his other business ventures.

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He's got to be on 25 grand a week, that's a lot of cash to forfeit.

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Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird

I have no issues with Tomlin going but the timing shows a complete lack of footballing brains at the club.

Any decent football person would have recommended that Tomlin was offloaded, even paid off, in the summer so that we could have replaced him. Everyone (well obviously not everyone but certainly us fans) could see Tomlin would never play more than 10% of a season for us and his fitness and injury issues weren't getting any better.

Holding onto him hamstrung us in the transfer market and look at the state we are in.

Doing it now means that any replacement (and I doubt there will be) will be players out of contract who haven't even played since last season or had a pre season. They will be well off the pace.

However, they will still be fitter than Tomlin!

Some of the personal attacks on him though are OTT.

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Maybe things have been more complicated than you imagine behind the scenes.

It will be annoying if we change to a manager who may have used him. He has to be one of the most talented players we've had in recent times, I loved watching him. Its a shame how it worked out.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Could it be the same issues club to club are because of.. I dunno... Mental health?

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How do you know he’s suffering with a mental health illness? Where are you getting your information?

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

It will be annoying if we change to a manager who may have used him. He has to be one of the most talented players we've had in recent times, I loved watching him. Its a shame how it worked out.

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But he’s never fit so changing to a different manager would make no difference whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

But he’s never fit so changing to a different manager would make no difference whatsoever.

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But I mean maybe he could find the determination to get fit if a new manager fancied him. Even if it was not til after Xmas, a half fit Tomlin improves us.

Sad to see him leave but totally understand the decision. On his day, he was the most creative player we’ve had for a long time, and in a game like last Saturday, may have come up with a critical pass, for somebody to score. Like when Whitts was playing for us, I’d be disappointed if they weren’t playing that day. I don’t know if he has problems outside of football but I can’t get my head around, why some supporters, are so critical and judgemental about someone, they may only have seen for 90 minutes on a football pitch.

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Originally Posted by SOXY BOY

Sad to see him leave but totally understand the decision. On his day, he was the most creative player we’ve had for a long time, and in a game like last Saturday, may have come up with a critical pass, for somebody to score. Like when Whitts was playing for us, I’d be disappointed if they weren’t playing that day. I don’t know if he has problems outside of football but I can’t get my head around, why some supporters, are so critical and judgemental about someone, they may only have seen for 90 minutes on a football pitch.

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:thumbup:

Is there any other club that tears up contracts by 'mutual consent' i.e. paying up their contract, as much as we do?

Cala, Berget, burgstaller, eikrem, kimbo, ricky lambert, gary madine.

Sign a player on a two and a half year contract in January, release him in October.

Amateur.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Finally!

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Vassell next?

Two off the books should allow us to possibly sign two fit & effective players in January.

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Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks

You could have used the strap line:

He's gone

To have given us a very brief element of hope.

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Nah, the OP would have been accused of clickbait if he had :hehe:

Fit AND effective? Me thinks you're asking for too much - this is Cardiff City, after all!

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Originally Posted by SOXY BOY

Sad to see him leave but totally understand the decision. On his day, he was the most creative player we’ve had for a long time, and in a game like last Saturday, may have come up with a critical pass, for somebody to score. Like when Whitts was playing for us, I’d be disappointed if they weren’t playing that day. I don’t know if he has problems outside of football but I can’t get my head around, why some supporters, are so critical and judgemental about someone, they may only have seen for 90 minutes on a football pitch.

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Well said Soxy.

There hasnt been much to shout about this last 3 years. The very few highly skilled moments we have seen have come from Tomlin. His free kicks against West Brom and Sheff Wednesday in the 2019/20 season were absolute beautys. His goal and assist at Leeds in same season are right up there too.

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

It will be annoying if we change to a manager who may have used him. He has to be one of the most talented players we've had in recent times, I loved watching him. Its a shame how it worked out.

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Warnock will probably sign him in January if not before.

When fit, Tomlin was effective.

Our loss, Boro's gain?

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Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird

Warnock will probably sign him in January if not before.

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Warnock? He froze him out here and I highly doubt Colin will still be in charge at Boro come January. The fans have turned on him.

£19k to £20k a year man anyone work out the per game cost yet

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Warnock? He froze him out here and I highly doubt Colin will still be in charge at Boro come January. The fans have turned on him.

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Lets do a swap Mick goes North Neil comes south perfect

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Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird

When fit, Tomlin was effective.

Our loss, Boro's gain?

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It was Harris that got him playing, not Warnock.

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Originally Posted by SOXY BOY

Sad to see him leave but totally understand the decision. On his day, he was the most creative player we’ve had for a long time, and in a game like last Saturday, may have come up with a critical pass, for somebody to score. Like when Whitts was playing for us, I’d be disappointed if they weren’t playing that day. I don’t know if he has problems outside of football but I can’t get my head around, why some supporters, are so critical and judgemental about someone, they may only have seen for 90 minutes on a football pitch.

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:thumbup:

Apart from maybe Giles, he's one of the few players we've had in recent years that you're excited to see he's on the team sheet. He was great for 3/4 months and his performances were one of the best we've seen in terms of flair and ability in a number of seasons.

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Originally Posted by Beanz1927

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/lee-tomlin-departs

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Should have happened much sooner!

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Thanks :thumbup:

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One of the best away days....ever.

I hate to say I told you so…

But I told you so!

You don’t get on the wrong side of Eddie Howe, Johnson, Karanka and Warnock and it be all of those blokes with the problem.

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Originally Posted by Jursset_BrisCity

I hate to say I told you so…

But I told you so!

You don’t get on the wrong side of Eddie Howe, Johnson, Karanka and Warnock and it be all of those blokes with the problem.

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You're right.

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

It was Harris that got him playing, not Warnock.

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It was just the rest of the team who Harris couldn't get to play.

Watching Tomlin (when he played) reminded me of a late career Gascoigne - he clearly had something that other players didn't, but really really struggled physically for whatever reason, and that infuriates fans.

Usually players don't agree to end their contract unless they have something else lined up, I'd imagine he'll probably end up at Peterborough where he seems to have a good relationship with the hierarchy there.

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

It will be annoying if we change to a manager who may have used him. He has to be one of the most talented players we've had in recent times, I loved watching him. Its a shame how it worked out.

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I know, don’t know what state he’s in but players like him can win a game with free kick or shot, we dont have many of them on show currently do we?

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Originally Posted by goats

I know, don’t know what state he’s in but players like him can win a game with free kick or shot, we dont have many of them on show currently do we?

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The problem is "players like him" can never be relied upon.

There’s an article knocking around somewhere about what he was like.

Apparently he turned up to training after signing this new deal in a top of the range Lamborghini (it’s in his tik toks) and Johnson came up to him and said it doesn’t set the right mood for the younger lads etc.

Tomlin said “That’s alright gaffer, let them park next to your old range rover then”.

Then he would go to the nutrition sessions deliberately eating two chocolate bars and put a packet of crisps on the table.

Incredibly talented player but you add all these stories up over several clubs and you quickly come to the view the bloke is a bit of a cock.

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Originally Posted by Jursset_BrisCity

I hate to say I told you so…

But I told you so!

You don’t get on the wrong side of Eddie Howe, Johnson, Karanka and Warnock and it be all of those blokes with the problem.

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And McCarthy , spot on I'd believe them befroe listening to a single word coming out of Tomlin's mercenary mouth :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by goats

I know, don’t know what state he’s in but players like him can win a game with free kick or shot, we dont have many of them on show currently do we?

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Trouble is, that's exactly why managers give players like him so much slack, a second or third chance. And Tomlin knows it.

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Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird

Warnock will probably sign him in January if not before.

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I thought that any player who's contract is terminated outside of the transfer window, like now, isn't deemed a free transfer and can only sign for a domestic club when the window reopens. Could be wrong though.

What a day! I will never again read that someone either wants him in the team, wonders why he isn’t picked this week or asks where he is.