New Manager.

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Originally Posted by Splott-light...

as with any employment contract I believe the company can ask you to do any task deemed relative to your role, I don't think scrubbing hardened bum plaque from a toilet pan with a toothbrush is within the scope of a football managers role..

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He’s dealing with shit on the pitch, little difference :shrug:

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Originally Posted by splott parker

He’s dealing with shit on the pitch, little difference :shrug:

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:hehe:

Unless there are more radical changes at boardroom level what's the point of having a new manager? The present board will only appoint the same type of manager, and with no money to spend and a closed transfer window, any new manager is unlikely to do any better than our current one. Sadly our prospects for this season are exceptionally poor.

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Originally Posted by Vindec

Unless there are more radical changes at boardroom level what's the point of having a new manager? The present board will only appoint the same type of manager, and with no money to spend and a closed transfer window, any new manager is unlikely to do any better than our current one. Sadly our prospects for this season are exceptionally poor.

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I would like to think anyone can do a better job. 5 centre backs. Completely failed once. Tries it again fails. Stands there arms folded sticking with it.

Forced change brings on Collins. Still the back 5.

Agree there are many issues but yes there are many who can do better than that.

Hes lost the plot and completely clueless.

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Originally Posted by Vindec

Unless there are more radical changes at boardroom level what's the point of having a new manager? The present board will only appoint the same type of manager, and with no money to spend and a closed transfer window, any new manager is unlikely to do any better than our current one. Sadly our prospects for this season are exceptionally poor.

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At the moment we are staring relegation in the face. The only saving grace is that, at the moment, there are some really poor teams below us... and let's hope they take another 9 points off Derby.

totally agree, the problems are at Directorial level. We don't have a Board that's the trouble. Two one-offs spins in the Prem getting hammered and relegated have made them think they can solve it all with another manager. Agreed things are looking poor this year.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

Apparently he did reasonably well at Hyderabad FC two years ago - until he was sacked for on win in 12. Also sacked for poor results in his last five jobs since 2011. Give us a break please.

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It was a joke.

And you’ve just Wikipedia’d him

I wouldn't be shocked if Alex Neil ended up in the running, just looking at who's out of work.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Who can we realistically want?

Throw the dice and gamble Bellamy , Earnie or Blue Matt.

Or another old school manager in an attempt to stay up. The likes of Pulis or Hughton.

Or worse Flynn.

Weve clearly no money so its frees , loans and our own young players.

If we go down L1 wont be easy.

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We’ll all hope for some inspiring, forward thinking appointment but will get someone really disappointing, unimaginative and cheap.

Like we always do.

(I only recall being enthusiastic about Warnock’s appointment in the recent past.)

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

We’ll all hope for some inspiring, forward thinking appointment but will get someone really disappointing, unimaginative and cheap.

Like we always do.

(I only recall being enthusiastic about Warnock’s appointment in the recent past.)

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I don’t mind hoofball but it has to be done right.

We look clueless

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Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad

I wouldn't be shocked if Alex Neil ended up in the running, just looking at who's out of work.

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If he would take it until the end of the season not a bad option

How haven't the club got sacking triggers built into the contract - i.e. lose 7 in a row grounds to be dismissed without any payout.

Is that not usual?

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

How haven't the club got sacking triggers built into the contract - i.e. lose 7 in a row grounds to be dismissed without any payout.

Is that not usual?

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Football is a strange industry where it seems a lot of normal rules/norms don't apply

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

I don’t mind hoofball but it has to be done right.

We look clueless

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Hoofball is seen (rightly so) as a negative in football. I don't want hoofball and I'm sure the majority of City fans don't either. Hoofball implies just hit it anywhere, the higher the better! However, direct football is entirely different. In the season we went up with Warnock, we played some wonderful direct football early in the season, most notably when we beat Wolves away. There was a real purpose to it and passes weren't going astray. I could certainly take that kind of directness but I've had a guts full of hoofball.

For me, Morrison until the end of the season. Let's get this appointment right!!! If not we'll be back here this time next season with another new manager thread

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Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927

For me, Morrison until the end of the season. Let's get this appointment right!!! If not we'll be back here this time next season with another new manager thread

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We don’t know if he even wants it to be fair.

But if so get him in til Christmas with Hudson as assistant.

Bloooooobirds

I may be completely wrong and naïve, but as others have said, I think the problems run deeper / higher than MM.

McCarthy, like Warnock, is an old school, wiley manager who has been around the block more than enough times. If he's not getting what he wants then, at a guess, I'd have thought he well knows how to show and share his dissatisfaction. I.e.. if you don't back me in the transfer market, this is what we end up with on the pitch. And thus he'll be quite happy to stick this out until they pay him off and sack him. Therefore it comes down to money...on and off the pitch.

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Hoofball is seen (rightly so) as a negative in football. I don't want hoofball and I'm sure the majority of City fans don't either. Hoofball implies just hit it anywhere, the higher the better! However, direct football is entirely different. In the season we went up with Warnock, we played some wonderful direct football early in the season, most notably when we beat Wolves away. There was a real purpose to it and passes weren't going astray. I could certainly take that kind of directness but I've had a guts full of hoofball.

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Agree.

Feel like I’d be in a minority but I’d fancy Frank Lampard, has links to Chelsea for loan players and he played some lovely football the year derby lost the play off final

Ian Holloway and Sam Allardyce are being interviewed as we speak !!!!!















They’re not really :hehe:

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Originally Posted by alan_corneli

At the moment we are staring relegation in the face. The only saving grace is that, at the moment, there are some really poor teams below us... and let's hope they take another 9 points off Derby.

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Ive heard that we cannot afford to get rid of MM. If we paid him off we'd run foul of the Financial Fair play rules and likely get a points reduction.

Even off we did it might be the best option as we seem unlikely to get any/many more points with him in charge.

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

Ive heard that we cannot afford to get rid of MM. If we paid him off we'd run foul of the Financial Fair play rules and likely get a points reduction.

Even off we did it might be the best option as we seem unlikely to get any/many more points with him in charge.

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If that’s true we are doomed

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

Ive heard that we cannot afford to get rid of MM. If we paid him off we'd run foul of the Financial Fair play rules and likely get a points reduction.

Even off we did it might be the best option as we seem unlikely to get any/many more points with him in charge.

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Just dont hire a new manager. Put a current member of staff in charge and put Mick and TC behind the bar on matchday.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Just dont hire a new manager. Put a current member of staff in charge and put Mick and TC behind the bar on matchday.

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They'd only defend the bar prices

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Originally Posted by life on mars

They'd only defend the bar prices

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Put one R Morison In charge

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Originally Posted by life on mars

They'd only defend the bar prices

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what beers you got MM?
we'll we have a lovely Mcguinness, and a fruity Mcguinness, a nice ipa Mcguinness and an awesome dark Mcguinness or just a best of Mcguinness.

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Originally Posted by EastbourneBlue

We don’t know if he even wants it to be fair.

But if so get him in til Christmas with Hudson as assistant.

Bloooooobirds

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Very true. Too good an opportunity to turn down surely. Or a poisoned chalice haha

How have we managed to get ourselves into such a mess?

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Would be a good appointment but not realistic. Hed want backing.

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Why do you assume he'd want backing?

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Why do you assume he'd want backing?

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I think Wilder will choose carefully where he goes next.

I dont think a club heading down with no money is attractive to him.

Could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Put one R Morison In charge

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Ravel?

Morrison with two 'r's? (Just when you'd got your head around Steve Morison's name)

Interesting idea!

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Regards paying up McCarthy’s contract couldn’t we just shift him aside, promote Morison, giving him a raise in pay. and basically ostracise McCarthy. Sicken him into walking away. Don’t a lot of companies do it when they have difficulty in removing an employee? Have him cleaning the shithouses (I don’t mean bathing the players), selling pints on match day etc.

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That's funny.

Sadly, wouldn't he have something in his contract about day to day duties and how much responsibility/power he has what he has control over etc?

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

Ive heard that we cannot afford to get rid of MM. If we paid him off we'd run foul of the Financial Fair play rules and likely get a points reduction.

Even off we did it might be the best option as we seem unlikely to get any/many more points with him in charge.

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Put him on gardening leave and move up Morison on his current wage with the promise that if he does well he will get a new deal. Always a way around things

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Originally Posted by Vindec

Unless there are more radical changes at boardroom level what's the point of having a new manager? The present board will only appoint the same type of manager, and with no money to spend and a closed transfer window, any new manager is unlikely to do any better than our current one. Sadly our prospects for this season are exceptionally poor.

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Because even with the shit behind the scenes a better manager would get more out of the team and hopefully keep us up.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

I think Wilder will choose carefully where he goes next.

I dont think a club heading down with no money is attractive to him.

Could be wrong.

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Well that's a difference from your original comment, actually agree with that post.