Where did the Tan interfering come from?

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

It reminds me of that Monty Python scene

"Yeah but apart from those things, what have the Romans ever done for us....."

Some people just don't want to see what is in front of them.

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I see what's in front of me. Yes Tan has messed up and yes we are going through a rough patch but some fans like to cling onto anything negative regarding the owner when half the time it's made up or just i heared rubbish.

So people on message boards whose support for the club doesn't extend much beyond attending matches can ask questions and discuss tactics but the owner who has invested at least £125m in the club can't. Is that what people are saying or have I got it wrong?

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

Am I missing something here or didn’t you all read the meeting with Dalman last week where he said, with his own mouth, that Tan has final say on everything, including the team’s playing style.

Rest assured you are dealing with a meddling buffoon here.

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I read that as more “the problems we have are nothing to do with me”
I remember Dalman being quoted as stating “we need a manager that will ensure we have at least 30 attempts at goal”
At least something like that.
He was also all over the media when Solsjkar came here as saying he had personally picked him and chased him for a couple of months before convincing him to come to city as manager.
Unfortunately I think every one of the board has been guilty of interfering. My “beef” with Dalman is that I am convinced that he considers himself very knowledgable on football matters

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Originally Posted by Vindec

So people on message boards whose support for the club doesn't extend much beyond attending matches can ask questions and discuss tactics but the owner who has invested at least £125m in the club can't. Is that what people are saying or have I got it wrong?

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There some irony in what you say , perhaps the fans should buy out the man whose kept us afloat for so long?

Love the fact under performing players and managers seem to be kicked into the long grass in this thread .

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Originally Posted by stan butler

I see what's in front of me. Yes Tan has messed up and yes we are going through a rough patch but some fans like to cling onto anything negative regarding the owner when half the time it's made up or just i heared rubbish.

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I said some people. I didn't name names.

You can believe it is made up or hearsay. I'll believe the several sources that have said that he interferes or at least hint at it and have no reason to lie.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

There some irony in what you say , perhaps the fans should buy out the man whose kept us afloat for so long?

Love the fact under performing players and managers seem to be kicked into the long grass in this thread .

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Under performing managers who were picked by who exactly?

Under performing players who were picked by those manager and signed off by who again?

If you picked a cowboy builder to build you a house, paid him, signed it off on completion and it collapsed the day after would you not consider yourself at least partially at fault?

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

I said some people. I didn't name names.

You can believe it is made up or hearsay. I'll believe the several sources that have said that he interferes or at least hint at it and have no reason to lie.

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Like who? Gabbidon? I wouldn't trust that slimey ****er who runs with the fox and the hounds..
What other name/names do you use on hear and elsewhere?:sherlock:

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Under performing managers who were picked by who exactly?

Under performing players who were picked by those manager and signed off by who again?

If you picked a cowboy builder to build you a house, paid him, signed it off on completion and it collapsed the day after would you not consider yourself at least partially at fault?

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The buck stops with whoever brought the manager in

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Originally Posted by stan butler

You can't find anything other than hearsay :thumbup:

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And you can't find anything at all.

Again, the Gabbidon quote is a direct account from someone who was present. That is not hearsay.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

And you can't find anything at all.

Again, the Gabbidon quote is a direct account from someone who was present. That is not hearsay.

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I don't need to find anything i wasn't the rumour starter.. Who was present then? Gabbidon?

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Originally Posted by stan butler

The buck stops with whoever brought the manager in

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I blame Danny Gabbidon, only because of his successful management moment with young Scott

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

https://www.theguardian.com/football...nt-tan-cardiff

"It is understood there have been occasions during this season when Tan – who recently claimed his investment in the club stands at £125m – has interfered with team matters on a matchday. Although it has not happened every week, Tan has tried to convey messages from the stand during Premier League fixtures, including suggested substitutions and tactical changes."


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...eting-10789213

“He demanded from the manager that all the defenders got in and had a meeting.
“He showed everyone that goal and was telling them to do it on Saturday.”

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Oh come on. Surely people can see that was malky and his people playing the media better than tan could. Remember the David Marshall why haven't you scored chants? Good humoured and surely nobody believed Tan was actually angry that David Marshall isn't scoring more goals?! Are people really that gullible to believe whatever the media are fed?

Re the gabbidon one I'm sure it's true but if that is the worst anyone has? He's clearly joking. Or even if he's not joking it can just ve laughed off-as it was.

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Originally Posted by Vindec

So people on message boards whose support for the club doesn't extend much beyond attending matches can ask questions and discuss tactics but the owner who has invested at least £125m in the club can't. Is that what people are saying or have I got it wrong?

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No well done you got it right. A football club is not like your regular bog standard business; it's a community institution. Tan is merely the latest in a long list of caretakers of the club. We offer our support on trust and it should never be abused. The difference is that we supporters have the club's sole interest at heart ( dare I also say soul, no pun intended) and not just the size of our bank balance.

Tan should never ever interfere with footballing matters apart from overseeing business strategy.

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

Under performing managers who were picked by who exactly?

Under performing players who were picked by those manager and signed off by who again?

If you picked a cowboy builder to build you a house, paid him, signed it off on completion and it collapsed the day after would you not consider yourself at least partially at fault?

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There not cowboys , there highly paid experinced decent championship professionals, and on most occasions the players take thier toys home 🙄

I remember Ben Turner saying about the time he played one week in a nil-nil draw, then being dropped for the next game against Hull.
When Turner asked Solskjar why? Solskjar’s reason was that he was told to play the Spanish defender (Cala?) in the next game, and that it was not a reflection about Turner’s performance, and if was up to Solskjar Turner would be playing against Hull.
City went on to lose against Hull 4-0.

I can’t remember if the story came from the John Parkin podcast, or from a newspaper serialisation from a book.

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Originally Posted by Father Dougal

Oh come on. Surely people can see that was malky and his people playing the media better than tan could. Remember the David Marshall why haven't you scored chants? Good humoured and surely nobody believed Tan was actually angry that David Marshall isn't scoring more goals?! Are people really that gullible to believe whatever the media are fed?

Re the gabbidon one I'm sure it's true but if that is the worst anyone has? He's clearly joking. Or even if he's not joking it can just ve laughed off-as it was.

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That's right, don't believe the media. Just believe whatever you want. If you feel compelled to believe "the media" (not a monolith BTW), feel free to interpret it any way you choose and twist it to suit your narrative.

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Originally Posted by Vindec

So people on message boards whose support for the club doesn't extend much beyond attending matches can ask questions and discuss tactics but the owner who has invested at least £125m in the club can't. Is that what people are saying or have I got it wrong?

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Yes, you have got it wrong. This thread is about whether or not Tan interfered. Not whether or not he had a right to.

It started off as:

Who has said he pokes his nose in?
Any former players or manager said this?
Genuine question


It turned out former players had in fact said this. But that wasn't good enough. It soon became apparent that it wasn't actually a genuine question.