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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
I’ve heard I’d rather wear a turban than a rose plenty of times with nothing happening.
Is that really racist? We're the sane ****ing race.
English bashing, definitely. Not racist.
And it's banter.
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
Is that really racist? We're the sane ****ing race.
English bashing, definitely. Not racist.
And it's banter.
Really? I thought that has massive racist connotations
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
Is that really racist? We're the sane ****ing race.
English bashing, definitely. Not racist.
And it's banter.
Huge racist overtones
Me .....Welsh bloke .......think the English are so low that I would rather be Asian (turban) than be English
You English are soo low that it would be better to be Asian than English
It's certainly not banter , it's racism
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
Is that really racist? We're the sane ****ing race.
English bashing, definitely. Not racist.
And it's banter.
It isn’t the English part, you cannot be serious with this.
I cannot believe two people have genuinely thought the racism in this is about the English ffs :hehe:
Don’t worry lads they’ll self police!
When the English sing I’d rather be a p*ki than a Turk it’s just banter about being Turkish!!!!
****ing doughnuts :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Armitage Shanks
Really? I thought that has massive racist connotations
I've never given it much thought. It's not something I've heard being sung
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
I've never given it much thought. It's not something I've heard being sung
We’re the same race :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
It isn’t the English part, you cannot be serious with this.
I dont take offence at everything and anything in the way you do.
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
I dont take offence at everything and anything in the way you do.
I don’t take offence at anything but that is racist, no two ways about it.
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
It isn’t the English part, you cannot be serious with this.
I cannot believe two people have genuinely thought the racism in this is about the English ffs :hehe:
Don’t worry lads they’ll self police!
When the English sing I’d rather be a p*ki than a Turk it’s just banter about being Turkish!!!!
****ing doughnuts :hehe:
You hear these songs whereas I do not. That says more about who you sit with than anything else.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
I don’t take offence at anything but that is racist no two ways about it.
In your opinion.
Who is being targeted in this little ditty?
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
We’re the same race :hehe:
Are we not?
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
You hear these songs whereas I do not. That says more about who you sit with than anything else.
I don’t see how hearing the song has any bearing on it. You wouldn’t have thought there was anything wrong with it anyway, only banter about being English :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
I don’t know how many away games you’ve been too but its not like you won’t hear this shit when it’s being sung.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
I don’t see how hearing the song has any bearing on it. You wouldn’t have thought there was anything wrong with it anyway, only banter about being English :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
I don’t know how many away games you’ve been too but its not like you won’t hear this shit when it’s being sung.
I'll ask again, who is being targeted with this little ditty?
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
In your opinion.
Who is being targeted in this little ditty?
It’s not my opinion. The song is about the English being so bad that even wearing a turban is better than being English. I’m not even discussing it any more if you can’t see that it’s not worth discussing.
You’re just a town full of p*kis is another I’ve heard sang by a large minority at Birmingham, Burnley and Bradford. No self policing there either.
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
You hear these songs whereas I do not. That says more about who you sit with than anything else.
No , it's a racist chant
When the trust did a open day for the community when the new stadium opened an Indian lad told us how offensive it was to him
It's racist
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
In your opinion.
Who is being targeted in this little ditty?
English people and Asian people
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
It’s not my opinion. The song is about the English being so bad that even wearing a turban is better than being English. I’m not even discussing it any more if you can’t see that it’s not worth discussing.
You’re just a town full of p*kis is another I’ve heard sang by a large minority at Birmingham, Burnley and Bradford. No self policing there either.
Well you have given him a chance , best move on
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
It’s not my opinion. The song is about the English being so bad that even wearing a turban is better than being English. I’m not even discussing it any more if you can’t see that it’s not worth discussing.
You’re just a town full of p*kis is another I’ve heard sang by a large minority at Birmingham, Burnley and Bradford. No self policing there either.
Where does it say being English is bad?
I'd rather be rich than famous. Doesn't mean I think either the rich or famous are beneath me.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
English people and Asian people
Do you get offended when the English sing about us Welsh shagging sheep?
Do you think that's what those singing really think?
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Feedback
Where does it say being English is bad?
I
Why do you think Welsh Cardiff fans are singing it?
Do you think a town full of p*kis isn’t offensive but merely laughing at the over population of those towns because they’re full?
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Feedback
Where does it say being English is bad?
I'd rather be rich than famous. Doesn't mean I think either the rich or famous are beneath me.
Now you are letting your ego get in the way of accepting , after explanation , that this chant is racist
It says the English are soo bad that it would be better to be Asian ....a **** for the ignorant .....than be an English man .......the English........are even worse than the pakis !
It has clear racial overtones which is why a group of Indian cardiff city fans told us at the trust event that something should have been done about it
Now please don't be daft
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Just ignore him.
Hes made himself look a right idiot. I initially thought he was joking.
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Only clogdiff city could make a guys out into a race thread. FFS
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
I can only hope you’re being sarcastic and aren’t this dense.
Nothing gets past you eh.
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Now you are letting your ego get in the way of accepting , after explanation , that this chant is racist
It says the English are soo bad that it would be better to be Asian ....a **** for the ignorant .....than be an English man .......the English........are even worse than the pakis !
It has clear racial overtones which is why a group of Indian cardiff city fans told us at the trust event that something should have been done about it
Now please don't be daft
I'm not letting my ego get in the way of anything. You're the bigot sludge. you're the one who often proclaims that you hate, nay despise, 17m British people simply because they exercise their democratic right to vote a different way to you.
If you really think that anyone would prefer to be English over Indian, where the chances are you'll be one of the hundreds of millions of the Indian subclass that live in abject poverty (where poverty really means poverty), then you're nuts. Its a song sung at football. It doesn't mean as much as you think it does.
you and the likes of Croesyblue get offended at everything. There is no banter, there is no humour, just offense. And if you get offended, what next? Do all the kids in the stadium get cancer as a result? Who decides what is and is not offensive and whether it should be sung. It certainly is not you. Who decides that no one can say anything that may or may not cause offence. Again, it certainly is not you.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Why do you think Welsh Cardiff fans are singing it?
Do you think a town full of p*kis isn’t offensive but merely laughing at the over population of those towns because they’re full?
probably to wind up the other fans, a bit like when the English sing God Save the Queen. For some it'll have the desired affect, for the more intelligent amongst us, we'll turn the other cheek and ignore it.
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Now you are letting your ego get in the way of accepting , after explanation , that this chant is racist
It says the English are soo bad that it would be better to be Asian ....a **** for the ignorant .....than be an English man .......the English........are even worse than the pakis !
It has clear racial overtones which is why a group of Indian cardiff city fans told us at the trust event that something should have been done about it
Now please don't be daft
Why do you repeat yourself over, and over, you've said this already.
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
I'm not letting my ego get in the way of anything. You're the bigot sludge. you're the one who often proclaims that you hate, nay despise, 17m British people simply because they exercise their democratic right to vote a different way to you.
If you really think that anyone would prefer to be English over Indian, where the chances are you'll be one of the hundreds of millions of the Indian subclass that live in abject poverty (where poverty really means poverty), then you're nuts. Its a song sung at football. It doesn't mean as much as you think it does.
you and the likes of Croesyblue get offended at everything. There is no banter, there is no humour, just offense. And if you get offended, what next? Do all the kids in the stadium get cancer as a result? Who decides what is and is not offensive and whether it should be sung. It certainly is not you. Who decides that no one can say anything that may or may not cause offence. Again, it certainly is not you.
Did you mean the other way round?
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I haven’t heard City fans singing racist songs home or away.
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
Nothing gets past you eh.
It’s just you’ve got form
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Feedback
probably to wind up the other fans, a bit like when the English sing God Save the Queen. For some it'll have the desired affect, for the more intelligent amongst us, we'll turn the other cheek and ignore it.
Why would it wind up English fans if it’s got nothing to do with England being bad?
The conversation isn’t about turning the other cheek or offense it’s about whether saying I’d rather wear a turban than be English is racist.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Do Brighton fans still get those songs?
I hope so because it’s tongue & cheek humour, anyone with an ounce of sense knows that type of humour is at the heart of any gay culture.
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Originally Posted by
Whisperer
I hope so because it’s tongue & cheek humour, anyone with an ounce of sense knows that type of humour is at the heart of any gay culture.
https://www.brightonandhoveindepende...rested-1341356
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN1YL283
https://news.sky.com/story/west-ham-...rters-12089804
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50971696
Homophobia from straight men isn’t the heart of gay culture is it?
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
It's funny how we straight men laugh at the dame in a pantomime - folk like you need to lighten up.
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Armitage Shanks
Really? I thought that has massive racist connotations
Totally agree
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Did you mean the other way round?
yes of course. in my defence I hadn't had my first coffee
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Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
It’s just you’ve got form
Well if this is anything to go by, maybe I haven't got form and people on here take way too much the wrong way :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
Whisperer
I hope so because it’s tongue & cheek humour, anyone with an ounce of sense knows that type of humour is at the heart of any gay culture.
I watched the new Dave Chapelle stand up the other day, he's been bashed for being transphobic etc but gives a good explanation at the end.
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dembethewarrior
I watched the new Dave Chapelle stand up the other day, he's been bashed for being transphobic etc but gives a good explanation at the end.
Chappelle is a good satiricist and great on social commentary. You'd have to be us to think he's a bigot.
Some people just want to watch the world to burn and can't abide anyone thinking outside of their own lane.
