....put your foreskin over your head
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Why be so offensive ? No doubt loads of people (including me) think that the stuff you listen to is utter, tuneless and talentless, crap. Collins and the rest have had a 50 year successful career at the top and still fill large venues whereas the people you mention will probably disappear without trace quite quickly.
Just to write Genesis off as crap is a bit daft. Their work is so varied. Trespass is massively different from The Lamb Lies down on Broadway. The Lamb Lies down on Broadway is nothing like Duke etc.
I’m no Collins fan but a big PG fan. However they kept going under Collins and became more successful.
Just to add they are proper musicians too. Hackett is one of the finest guitarists around. Collins one of the best drummers in his prime. Hardly crap.
prog lesson
https://youtu.be/WKNOlDtZluU
1971
https://youtu.be/EGcqyN-TeDc
1979
Casper???
Knights of the Green Shield stamp and shout
Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.