Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

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Originally Posted by Canton Kev

Got any recommendations on what to buy the wife for Christmas?

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A husband who stays on topic :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Canton Kev

Got any recommendations on what to buy the wife for Christmas?

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Garden centre vouchers

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

A husband who stays on topic :thumbup:

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Just like Elvis, irony isn’t dead :hehe:

"Another decent thread ruined"

13 posts in as many days. Hes hardly derailed thread of the year.

Anyway, back on topic, I am going to try and give these a listen over the Christmas break as they do seem interesting, and there are only so many episodes of American TV shows someone can watch in 2 weeks off so be nice to mix it up with the odd book.

That’s why it was a good thread though it wasn’t filled up with people arguing just discussing this.

It is well worth a listen :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

That’s why it was a good thread though it wasn’t filled up with people arguing just discussing this.

It is well worth a listen :thumbup:

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Another thread destroyed by Jesus.:hehe:

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

1. Thanks for not joining the throng who assumed I didn't listen to it, as you were correct in taking me at my word.
Also I was genuine in my request for any other links you may wish to share. My studies in the occult, a subject that has suddenly expoded in both entertainment and real life since around the 1970's, has led me to many fake examples but also many real, damaging and sadly fatal accounts too.

2. I understand why you and others would avoid dialogue with anyone who trusted God's Word as in recent decades the world of education and entertainment has provided the opposite viewpoint to such a point that God's existence can be airbrushed out of life as long as we don't look at the evidence too closely.

3. As for the presenter being balanced - I did notice a few subtle jibs about this (the time of the investigation & trial) being a time when over 90% of Americans believed in a higher power and also the implication that now people were more enlightened and free to explore their 'natural' feelings, hence life was becoming less inhibiting and less held back by old fashioned values. When we get to determine how life should work or how death should occur and how we can get 'better' as a society then feelings get to trump reason & morality, if it feels right then just DO it!
Stable relationships become rare, sleeping around supposedly provides satisfaction and faithfulness is somehow overrated; of course this shift in life's 'upgrade' is going to produced millions of lives that are inconvenient and ultimately unwanted, but not to worry, we can get that *sorted! So since this shift has got into 4th gear we've seen:-

* and yes I am aware that the threat to the mother's life is a genuine case for abortion in certain cases.


More than 1.5 BILLION babies have been aborted worldwide in the past 50 years.
An estimated 50 million abortions are carried out throughout the world every year.

One in five pregnancies worldwide end in abortion.

42% of all yearly deaths in the world are from abortion.

Every two seconds a baby is aborted - every time your heartbeats a baby dies.
Baby girls are a particular target of abortion: at least 100 million girls have already been wiped out through gendercide - the deliberate targeting of baby girls for abortion.
In 2011 the Wall Street Journal reported that 163 MILLION babies were aborted simply because they were girls. They called it "The war against girls"

Yes, we should be really proud :frown:

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I'm sure you may very well be a perfectly pleasant person in real life, but on here any thread you get involved in seems to end up only going in one way.
I'm sorry to say that you come across as very obnoxious and self satisfied. You take a thread that is usually quite conversational in tone and attempt to dominate it, launching into lengthy diatribes that are often little to do with what is being discussed, with practically no acknowledgement of opposing viewpoints.
Other people on this board manage to disagree and put alternative opinions forward without the browbeating.
I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve by doing it, but I very much doubt anyone has been persuaded by the things you've written to take on your points. In fact I suspect there are other Christians on here who are reluctant to join a thread once you are involved.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I'm sure you may very well be a perfectly pleasant person in real life, but on here any thread you get involved in seems to end up only going in one way.
I'm sorry to say that you come across as very obnoxious and self satisfied. You take a thread that is usually quite conversational in tone and attempt to dominate it, launching into lengthy diatribes that are often little to do with what is being discussed, with practically no acknowledgement of opposing viewpoints.
Other people on this board manage to disagree and put alternative opinions forward without the browbeating.
I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve by doing it, but I very much doubt anyone has been persuaded by the things you've written to take on your points. In fact I suspect there are other Christians on here who are reluctant to join a thread once you are involved.

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The English Language needs a word that is the antithesis to 'browbeating' in that the diatribes, ad hoiminem comments and general lack of argumental logic reflect more negatively on the deliverer's behalf rather than on the bemused but far-from-beaten recipient, as it were. Such self-defeating behaviour could be described as "browlosing" perhaps :-)

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

The net result is 1.5 billion lives destroyed before they saw the light of day - putting the likes of Hilter in the shade with it's scope and bloodshed.

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In a crowded field this has undoubtedly sealed the prize for 2021's stupidest comment, and would probably in fact win most other years.

Congratulations to you.

And will give this series a listen, thanks for the heads up :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I'm sure you may very well be a perfectly pleasant person in real life, but on here any thread you get involved in seems to end up only going in one way.
I'm sorry to say that you come across as very obnoxious and self satisfied. You take a thread that is usually quite conversational in tone and attempt to dominate it, launching into lengthy diatribes that are often little to do with what is being discussed, with practically no acknowledgement of opposing viewpoints.
Other people on this board manage to disagree and put alternative opinions forward without the browbeating.
I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve by doing it, but I very much doubt anyone has been persuaded by the things you've written to take on your points. In fact I suspect there are other Christians on here who are reluctant to join a thread once you are involved.

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Thanks for your comments, as for "no acknowledgement of opposing viewpoints", I have been waiting for one person to actually offer another viewpoint and discuss it openly and honestly. Unfortunately once someone's view is under any amount of pressure to provide facts instead of opinion then they start the insults or start talking any old nonsense.

As for my approach, it's no different than on any other boards over the last 2 decades where I enjoy discussing a whole load of subjects; for 'self satisfied' read confidence in what I am sharing. Of course like anyone I'm not always correct on everything, but let's discuss it as adults rather than playground 'mobs' - and if we end up disagreeing then lets walk away actually knowing WHY the other person holds that viewpoint.

We may end up learning something new, and we don't have to automatically agree with it.
Very often it only seems to be the people who think they have a solid argument only to find it falls at the first hurdle that end up complaining about the personality of the person that pointed out the flaws.
So can we agree to play the ball and not the opponent?

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Originally Posted by delmbox

In a crowded field this has undoubtedly sealed the prize for 2021's stupidest comment, and would probably in fact win most other years.

Congratulations to you.

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At the same time it's also hilarious so it may get the double and I'm pretty close to voting it in for the absolute-f*cked-up-logic-award so it's on for the treble too.

Have a great Christmas everyone :xmasayatollah:

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Have a great Christmas everyone :xmasayatollah:

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You too, enjoy the holiday season.