Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

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Originally Posted by Bruce Foxton

The fact that they have only earmarked £3m to help ease the burden of this, which in the grand scheme of things isn't a large amount would point to this being a very short term measure. If they did nothing now, and cases surged there would be a very real chance they would have to put restrictions on the 6 NATIONS games, which would cause an even bigger uproar. I think sporting events are taking the hit now in the hope that they wont have to impact on the "Jewel" in Wales crown come February.

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Oh, don’t worry, the White Elephant will be open for their freebies

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Originally Posted by Bruce Foxton

The fact that they have only earmarked £3m to help ease the burden of this, which in the grand scheme of things isn't a large amount would point to this being a very short term measure. If they did nothing now, and cases surged there would be a very real chance they would have to put restrictions on the 6 nations games, which would cause an even bigger uproar. I think sporting events are taking the hit now in the hope that they wont have to impact on the "Jewel" in Wales crown come February.

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Good point on the 6 nations tbf, which is a much bigger economic and cultural decision and would be far more controversial.

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Originally Posted by chris lee

Love the idea of playing at Forest Greens, new lawn stadium.

They would welcome the revenue, and only an hours drive away.

While I appreciate it would never happen, and would certainly not be in the spirit of the restrictions. I am certain we would sell out every game, 5k capacity, and would be a fun / quirky experience for our fan base.

Always enjoyed our pre seasons friendlies at the lawn, and the veggie food is very good!

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Its a silly suggestion. How would it be decided who would attend, out of our 13000 plus season ticket holders for a start. Can of worms.

Simple question - where is the evidence that outdoor sporting events that are properly run, such as our home games, have increased transmission of Covid ? I would be very surprised if there is any. Knee jerk, panic reaction by the bunch of idiots in charge. I can see Dripford now, standing at the lectern, coat hanger stuck in his suit as usual, trying to justify this and feeling very important no doubt. They have already stated that the vaccine programme is the way out of this but are now totally ignoring that pushing 90% of the population are double jabbed and over 50% already boosted and this should rise to at least 70% by the end if the month.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

Its a silly suggestion. How would it be decided who would attend, out of our 13000 plus season ticket holders for a start. Can of worms.

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We wouldn't have any shortage of volunteers to miss out given some of the garbage that's been dished up on the pitch this season.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

We must do something.

This is something.

Therefore, we must do this.

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Bollocks he’s just trying to control us in anyway he can…..I can still go to the cinema but not a football match….genius

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Originally Posted by dml1954

Simple question - where is the evidence that outdoor sporting events that are properly run, such as our home games, have increased transmission of Covid ? I would be very surprised if there is any. Knee jerk, panic reaction by the bunch of idiots in charge. I can see Dripford now, standing at the lectern, coat hanger stuck in his suit as usual, trying to justify this and feeling very important no doubt. They have already stated that the vaccine programme is the way out of this but are now totally ignoring that pushing 90% of the population are double jabbed and over 50% already boosted and this should rise to at least 70% by the end if the month.

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What do you mean by 'properly run'?
It's already been shown that being double jabbed isn't effective enough against omicron spreading. Do you think that having mass gatherings at sporting events will help slow down the growth of omicron or not?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Good point on the 6 nations tbf, which is a much bigger economic and cultural decision and would be far more controversial.

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The worlds biggest pub will no doubt have to be closed now too

A strangely illogical decision by Drakeford but I guess he has taken into account the almost certain inevitability that far more stringent controls will be reintroduced by the UK government after Xmas. The Drakeford decision is really daft though as you can eat and booze to your heart's content in pubs and restaurants, spend time in cinemas indoors but cannot attend outdoor sporting events even for those who can prove they are COVID free. The £3m compensation will go nowhere. However, I can't help feeling that the UK government should have been introducing further restrictions now as they are clearly not following the science as they have stressed throughout this pandemic.

Incidentally did anyone know that "Omnicron" is an anagram of "Moronic"? Says something!

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Originally Posted by Vindec

A strangely illogical decision by Drakeford but I guess he has taken into account the almost certain inevitability that far more stringent controls will be reintroduced by the UK government after Xmas. The Drakeford decision is really daft though as you can eat and booze to your heart's content in pubs and restaurants, spend time in cinemas indoors but cannot attend outdoor sporting events even for those who can prove they are COVID free. The £3m compensation will go nowhere. However, I can't help feeling that the UK government should have been introducing further restrictions now as they are clearly not following the science as they have stressed throughout this pandemic.

Incidentally did anyone know that "Omnicron" is an anagram of "Moronic"? Says something!

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I’m sure Drakey will shut down everything in due course.

I think the truth is there’s lots of different opinions in the science community. I’m getting a little frustrated that it’s the same ones who always get heard.

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Originally Posted by Vindec

A strangely illogical decision by Drakeford but I guess he has taken into account the almost certain inevitability that far more stringent controls will be reintroduced by the UK government after Xmas. The Drakeford decision is really daft though as you can eat and booze to your heart's content in pubs and restaurants, spend time in cinemas indoors but cannot attend outdoor sporting events even for those who can prove they are COVID free. The £3m compensation will go nowhere. However, I can't help feeling that the UK government should have been introducing further restrictions now as they are clearly not following the science as they have stressed throughout this pandemic.

Incidentally did anyone know that "Omnicron" is an anagram of "Moronic"? Says something!

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Omnicron is an anagram of 'moronic n'. Omicron, however ....

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

What do you mean? Do you think people are going to turn up at the stadium demanding to be let in?

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"We now go live to the Cardiff City Stadium where the match will actually now be played in front of spectators because the City fans didn't listen" :hehe:

There is absolutely no way that Drakeford would cancel sporting events if he didn’t have a very good reason. What would he get out of it except grief.

Could it be because sporting events need front line staff attendance eg police, ambulance staff etc?

So many staff are off work after testing positive (and worse it’s going to get) that they probably need everyone on other priorities.

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

There is absolutely no way that Drakeford would cancel sporting events if he didn’t have a very good reason. What would he get out of it except grief.

Could it be because sporting events need front line staff attendance eg police, ambulance staff etc?

So many staff are off work after testing positive (and worse it’s going to get) that they probably need everyone on other priorities.

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He lives in Pontcanna, I think. Just in case you'd like to pop round and lick his a***

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

He lives in Pontcanna, I think. Just in case you'd like to pop round and lick his a***

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Sometimes I forget how much of a badass you are then you post something like this and I remember

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Omnicron is an anagram of 'moronic n'. Omicron, however ....

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Apologies; it's Omicron. Too late to edit.

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

There is absolutely no way that Drakeford would cancel sporting events if he didn’t have a very good reason. What would he get out of it except grief.

Could it be because sporting events need front line staff attendance eg police, ambulance staff etc?

So many staff are off work after testing positive (and worse it’s going to get) that they probably need everyone on other priorities.

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That’s a fair argument, but if that’s the reason I’m sure he’d have explained that!

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Originally Posted by Vindec

Apologies; it's Omicron. Too late to edit.

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Every now and then you see newsreaders and reporters trying really hard not to say the same 🙂

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Originally Posted by delmbox

"We now go live to the Cardiff City Stadium where the match will actually now be played in front of spectators because the City fans didn't listen" :hehe:

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You will never ban a city fan

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

He lives in Pontcanna, I think. Just in case you'd like to pop round and lick his a***

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If that kind of thing turns you on crack on mate (pun intended).

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Originally Posted by goats

You will never ban a city fan

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I've never understood that chant, it makes no sense whatsoever. Is there a reason for it from back in the day that I'm not aware of?

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I've never understood that chant, it makes no sense whatsoever. Is there a reason for it from back in the day that I'm not aware of?

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Apart from it rhyming, which is always a decent starting point for any football chant, i think that it may go back to the days when away fans were getting banned from attending the South Wales Derby, think it happened twice? I think that there was also paper talk from other clubs chairman about banning us from their ground if i recall correctly, although that was probably around 1986 onwards. We also used to have a ridiculous amount of fans on banning orders, we were very successful on that front. So, in short, City fans were banned.

Scotland goes a very similar way, but they have an intended end date and are allowing 500 per game.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-59745262

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Scotland goes a very similar way, but they have an intended end date and are allowing 500 per game.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-59745262

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The scrum to see us lose again would be unimaginable.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

. So, in short, City fans were banned.

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Yeah that's why it's such a weird chant :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Dave Blue

The scrum to see us lose again would be unimaginable.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Scotland goes a very similar way, but they have an intended end date and are allowing 500 per game.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-59745262

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Whether any of it is right is up for debate, and I'm not a Sturgeon fan at all, but this is far more sensible and fair.

90% of Scottish sport can go ahead. As if a few hundred people scattered around a rugby or football pitch will make much difference, yet we've stopped it all.

Drakeford seems a bit drunk on it all.

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I've never understood that chant, it makes no sense whatsoever. Is there a reason for it from back in the day that I'm not aware of?

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Why? They tried to ban us but we still went anyway…..

Away following will increase. Looking forward to WBA

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I've never understood that chant, it makes no sense whatsoever. Is there a reason for it from back in the day that I'm not aware of?

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I could be wrong about this, but I think it dates back to the days when City fans were required to produce vouchers for entry to away games. I can't even remember how that system was supposed to work exactly - I think the vouchers were only supposed to be distributed to fans on the day by club and Supporters' Club officials or something like that. However, plenty of rogues found ways around the system, mainly by printing shitloads of their own.

I can remember a few of the lads on my old bus getting into trouble over the vouchers at somewhere like Crewe or Bury or somewhere similar. They'd somehow got hold of a couple of vouchers for that game in advance and had printed a couple of hundred copies, which they were handing out to anyone who wanted them outside the ground in defiance of the club and CCSC.

I honestly can't remember the exact details of the voucher nonsense or even when they attempted to implement it (mid-Eighties I think?), but I can remember loads of City fans were pissed off about it and I'm pretty sure that period was when the 'you'll never ban a City fan' chant was born.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I could be wrong about this, but I think it dates back to the days when City fans were required to produce vouchers for entry to away games. I can't even remember how that system was supposed to work exactly - I think the vouchers were only supposed to be distributed to fans on the day by club and Supporters' Club officials or something like that. However, plenty of rogues found ways around the system, mainly by printing shitloads of their own.

I can remember a few of the lads on my old bus getting into trouble over the vouchers at somewhere like Crewe or Bury or somewhere similar. They'd somehow got hold of a couple of vouchers for that game in advance and had printed a couple of hundred copies, which they were handing out to anyone who wanted them outside the ground in defiance of the club and CCSC.

I honestly can't remember the exact details of the voucher nonsense or even when they attempted to implement it (mid-Eighties I think?), but I can remember loads of City fans were pissed off about it and I'm pretty sure that period was when the 'you'll never ban a City fan' chant was born.

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Wasn't it about the cup winners cup game v derry city in 1988?

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Originally Posted by Father Dougal

Wasn't it about the cup winners cup game v derry city in 1988?

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That's a good shout, although some City Fans did make it to the Brandywell Stadium and were treated incredibly well, apparently. I do recall the vouchers TLG is talking about. You could only get them if you went to an away game through an official Travel Group. Thing is, the vouchers were like those tickets your mum would take from the machine, at the meat counter in the supermarket. Easy to replicate.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

That's a good shout, although some City Fans did make it to the Brandywell Stadium and were treated incredibly well, apparently. I do recall the vouchers TLG is talking about. You could only get them if you went to an away game through an official Travel Group. Thing is, the vouchers were like those tickets your mum would take from the machine, at the meat counter in the supermarket. Easy to replicate.

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That was it - they were supposed to be 'official' but were easy to copy. The lads had a carrier bag full on the trip I can remember (although I can't remember where we were going). Another thing I remember is that plenty of the host clubs during that period couldn't have cared less about the vouchers anyway and let City fans in without them, so they were basically a farce. Some of the CCSC officials at the time were really arsey about those vouchers as I recall, but those of us who travelled unofficially always got into the ground eventually, even if it meant going in the home end, owning up and being taken around the pitch to the away end (I remember doing that a couple of times).

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

He lives in Pontcanna, I think. Just in case you'd like to pop round and lick his a***

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Erm.....social distancing is still being advised.

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Originally Posted by Father Dougal

Wasn't it about the cup winners cup game v derry city in 1988?

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Maybe, but I remember it being sung a lot around that time as efforts were made to bring the away support under some sort of control (usually without much success).

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

That was it - they were supposed to be 'official' but were easy to copy. The lads had a carrier bag full on the trip I can remember (although I can't remember where we were going). Another thing I remember is that plenty of the host clubs during that period couldn't have cared less about the vouchers anyway and let City fans in without them, so they were basically a farce. Some of the CCSC officials at the time were really arsey about those vouchers as I recall, but those of us who travelled unofficially always got into the ground eventually, even if it meant going in the home end, owning up and being taken around the pitch to the away end (I remember doing that a couple of times).

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Yeah, Smaller clubs didn't give a shit, they didn't want to lose the revenue and the police didn't want City fans hanging about the Town centre for a couple of hours getting pissed. And we were all fenced in back then, although that didn't seem to stop the trouble :hehe:

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Maybe, but I remember it being sung a lot around that time as efforts were made to bring the away support under some sort of control (usually without much success).

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At the same time as 'If you like a lot of fighting at your football join our club' Pinched from the advert below :hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LmZCMmNPkM

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

At the same time as 'If you like a lot of fighting at your football join our club' Pinched from the advert below :hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LmZCMmNPkM

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Originally Posted by dml1954

Simple question - where is the evidence that outdoor sporting events that are properly run, such as our home games, have increased transmission of Covid ? I would be very surprised if there is any. Knee jerk, panic reaction by the bunch of idiots in charge. I can see Dripford now, standing at the lectern, coat hanger stuck in his suit as usual, trying to justify this and feeling very important no doubt. They have already stated that the vaccine programme is the way out of this but are now totally ignoring that pushing 90% of the population are double jabbed and over 50% already boosted and this should rise to at least 70% by the end if the month.

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I suppose that the risk of spreading the virus extends either side of actually being in the stadium. Sharing cars, travelling by public transport, drinking in pubs, eating in cafes, queueing for buses/trains/entry to the stadium and in the loos and at the food and drinks areas at the ground.

What happened to the old mantra that outside events were safer than crowded indoor places like pubs , shops ,trains, seems old Drakey felt he had to do something to appear presidential and sport and nightclubs were an easy target , especially as there's no big wugger games around .