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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Yup, it seems that way. They must walk about the place waiting for the next thing that infuriates them :hehe:
What else have Daily Mail readers got to live for?
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
Btw, I forgot to mention I particularly like the change of name from HM Government to UK Government; much more appropriate.
I don't know what that lot have to do with Government, they don't toe any lines. It's us lot who have to suffer it.
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
It's easier to spend money on this than invest in critical needs such as NHS , and why too easy to blame Westminster for under funding, there should be some responsibility on how our money is spent and spent wisely in fact I think we as voters and tax payers should be asked where are money is spent an what priority .
Next thing we will see is another bid for those 20 extra AM'S, plus support jobs, back equipment, new offices, cars , and of course expenses , I hear someone is calling for a Welsh Minister residence with full on support staff..
What a multi layered waste of tax payers money we have in Wales.
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
It's easier to spend money on this than invest in critical needs such as NHS , and why too easy to blame Westminster for under funding, there should be some responsibility on how our money is spent and spent wisely in fact I think we as voters and tax payers should be asked where are money is spent an what priority .
Next thing we will see is another bid for those 20 extra AM'S, plus support jobs, back equipment, new offices, cars , and of course expenses , I hear someone is calling for a Welsh Minister residence with full on support staff..
What a multi layered waste of tax payers money we have in Wales.
Yes you're right, it is a lot easier to spend a nominal amount on a style guide than it is to solve the chronic issues facing our health service
F*ck me....
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Originally Posted by
superflyblues
Interesting take. Which country do you want Wales to model itself on? Which other country either doesn't have its own parliament or a controlling stake in one?
I would like to see a UNITED Kingdom government and not the various parts ....The USA has similar even though they have state elections...
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
Daily Mail. Who on earth pays attention to anything published in this rag.
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Originally Posted by
City123
Yes you're right, it is a lot easier to spend a nominal amount on a style guide than it is to solve the chronic issues facing our health service
F*ck me....
LOM doesn't give a **** about the Welsh NHS :xmashehe:
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
Words to avoid
We use*plain English*on GOV.WALES, so please avoid using these words:
agenda (unless it’s for a meeting)advancingcollaborate (use working with)combatingcommit or pledge (we need to be more specific - we’re either doing something or we’re not)counteringdeliver (pizzas, post and services are delivered - not abstract concepts like improvements or priorities)deploy (unless it’s military or software)dialogue (we speak to people)disincentivise (and incentivise)empowerfacilitate (instead, say something specific about how you’re helping)focusingfoster (unless it’s children)impact (do not use this as a synonym for have an effect on, or influence)initiatekey (unless it unlocks something. A subject or thing is not key - it’s probably important)land (as a verb only use if you’re talking about aircraft)leverage (unless in the financial or mechanical sense)liaiseoverarchingprogress (as a verb - what are you actually doing?)promote (unless you’re talking about an ad campaign or some other marketing promotion)robustslimming down (processes do not diet)streamlinestrengthening (unless it’s strengthening bridges or other structures)tackling (unless it’s rugby, football or some other sport)transforming (what are you actually doing to change it?)utilise
Avoid using metaphors, they do not say what you actually mean and lead to slower comprehension of your content. For example:
drive (you can only drive vehicles, not schemes or people)drive out (unless it’s cattle)going forward (it’s unlikely we are giving travel directions)in order to (superfluous - do not use it)one-stop shop (we are government, not a retail outlet)ring fencing
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
LOM doesn't give a **** about the Welsh NHS :xmashehe:
I bet a middle manager or two were on this project for some time as its very detailed , so yes probably ran easily into 6 figures and when added into other soft projects yes it would make a big difference somehow for someone.
Easy to chuckle, but a lot would think there are far better priorities out there at the moment.
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Meh they won't rule me. I still refuse to use any Welsh in my email signature and never refer to Amy on reception as them.
Come at me.
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Originally Posted by
City123
Yes you're right, it is a lot easier to spend a nominal amount on a style guide than it is to solve the chronic issues facing our health service
F*ck me....
Read paragraph 2 and 3 .
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Words to avoid
We use*plain English*on GOV.WALES, so please avoid using these words: etc
Like it...and of course...It is H.M Government as a newly elected P.M. must seek and gain permission from her to form a government.
This is actually getting like George Orwell's 1984 and news speak....
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Words to avoid
We use*plain English*on GOV.WALES, so please avoid using these words:
agenda (unless it’s for a meeting)advancingcollaborate (use working with)combatingcommit or pledge (we need to be more specific - we’re either doing something or we’re not)counteringdeliver (pizzas, post and services are delivered - not abstract concepts like improvements or priorities)deploy (unless it’s military or software)dialogue (we speak to people)disincentivise (and incentivise)empowerfacilitate (instead, say something specific about how you’re helping)focusingfoster (unless it’s children)impact (do not use this as a synonym for have an effect on, or influence)initiatekey (unless it unlocks something. A subject or thing is not key - it’s probably important)land (as a verb only use if you’re talking about aircraft)leverage (unless in the financial or mechanical sense)liaiseoverarchingprogress (as a verb - what are you actually doing?)promote (unless you’re talking about an ad campaign or some other marketing promotion)robustslimming down (processes do not diet)streamlinestrengthening (unless it’s strengthening bridges or other structures)tackling (unless it’s rugby, football or some other sport)transforming (what are you actually doing to change it?)utilise
Avoid using metaphors, they do not say what you actually mean and lead to slower comprehension of your content. For example:
drive (you can only drive vehicles, not schemes or people)drive out (unless it’s cattle)going forward (it’s unlikely we are giving travel directions)in order to (superfluous - do not use it)one-stop shop (we are government, not a retail outlet)ring fencing
This is standard across most organisations including tories. It makes communication more effective as all staff follow the guide and do it in the same way. Honestly a couple of words seem more important to right wingers than child poverty and corruption.
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
Come on.....that is just a silly comment. whether it is the Daiy Mail or other publications, the ridiculousness of the edict is laughable.
You've no chance convincing some on here. Anything in the Daily Mail is bad. Anything from the senedd good.
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Originally Posted by
az city
Yeah right. "A worker" provided all the details for the 'article' for the 'newspaper'.
Personally, I think the Welsh Parliament is doing a great job defending Wales from Tory royalist clown serfs.
Meanwhile Patel starts a review of crossbow law. A mentally ill man gets within 500 yards of Elizabeth Windsor and Priti springs into action. What about the guy from North Wales murdered using a crossbow? No review there??
Maybe things look different from Arizona? Here it just seems ridiculous.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ee-50-22583757
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For anyone playing right-wing poker I call. Four of a kind.
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Words to avoid
We use*plain English*on GOV.WALES, so please avoid using these words:
agenda (unless it’s for a meeting)advancingcollaborate (use working with)combatingcommit or pledge (we need to be more specific - we’re either doing something or we’re not)counteringdeliver (pizzas, post and services are delivered - not abstract concepts like improvements or priorities)deploy (unless it’s military or software)dialogue (we speak to people)disincentivise (and incentivise)empowerfacilitate (instead, say something specific about how you’re helping)focusingfoster (unless it’s children)impact (do not use this as a synonym for have an effect on, or influence)initiatekey (unless it unlocks something. A subject or thing is not key - it’s probably important)land (as a verb only use if you’re talking about aircraft)leverage (unless in the financial or mechanical sense)liaiseoverarchingprogress (as a verb - what are you actually doing?)promote (unless you’re talking about an ad campaign or some other marketing promotion)robustslimming down (processes do not diet)streamlinestrengthening (unless it’s strengthening bridges or other structures)tackling (unless it’s rugby, football or some other sport)transforming (what are you actually doing to change it?)utilise
Avoid using metaphors, they do not say what you actually mean and lead to slower comprehension of your content. For example:
drive (you can only drive vehicles, not schemes or people)drive out (unless it’s cattle)going forward (it’s unlikely we are giving travel directions)in order to (superfluous - do not use it)one-stop shop (we are government, not a retail outlet)ring fencing
What don't you like about plain English?
Er......
Forget it!
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
You've no chance convincing some on here. Anything in the Daily Mail is bad. Anything from the senedd good.
The story so far:
Quite a while ago the UK Government Website Gov.UK produces a style guide for written contributions;
Sometime later the Welsh Government Website, Wales.Gov follows suit, largely copying the UK version;
Quite a while later the Daily Mail decides this is worthy of a sensationalist headline criticising the Welsh Government for, apparently using the same phrases as used on the Gov.UK site.
Maurice Swan, currently resident in the Dordogne, spews outrage about how the world's gone mad.
A couple of usual suspects pile in.
What a hill to make a stand on though??
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
The story so far:
Quite a while ago the UK Government Website Gov.UK produces a style guide for written contributions;
Sometime later the Welsh Government Website, Wales.Gov follows suit, largely copying the UK version;
Quite a while later the Daily Mail decides this is worthy of a sensationalist headline criticising the Welsh Government for, apparently using the same phrases as used on the Gov.UK site.
Maurice Swan, currently resident in the Dordogne, spews outrage about how the world's gone mad.
A couple of usual suspects pile in.
What a hill to make a stand on though??
That just about covers it. :xmashehe:
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Just to explain the concept of right-wing poker. Four wokes would beat a pair of loony-lefts. You have to call when the thread has reached the required amount. Other examples of combinations could be, say, four George Orwells would beat any other four of a kind. The rules need refining but with a bit of effort, it could be the CCMB equivalent to Mornington Crescent (as played on 'I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue').
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
The story so far:
Quite a while ago the UK Government Website Gov.UK produces a style guide for written contributions;
Sometime later the Welsh Government Website, Wales.Gov follows suit, largely copying the UK version;
Quite a while later the Daily Mail decides this is worthy of a sensationalist headline criticising the Welsh Government for, apparently using the same phrases as used on the Gov.UK site.
Maurice Swan, currently resident in the Dordogne, spews outrage about how the world's gone mad.
A couple of usual suspects pile in.
What a hill to make a stand on though??
:xmasthumbup::xmashehe:
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H M Government is just as bad as the Welsh Assembly sheep followers......wake up and stop accepting this desecration of the language. You are sleepwalking into Winston Smith's world....next you will be accepting the necessity to have TV surveillance inside your houses to make sure you don't break any rules. Stand up and argue and fight for common sense for goodness sake.
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
H M Government is just as bad as the Welsh Assembly sheep followers......wake up and stop accepting this desecration of the language. You are sleepwalking into Winston Smith's world....next you will be accepting the necessity to have TV surveillance inside your houses to make sure you don't break any rules. Stand up and argue and fight for common sense for goodness sake.
Yeah everybody stand up and fight like Maurice Swan who bravely started a thread on a messageboard about it :flare:
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
I would like to see a UNITED Kingdom government and not the various parts ....The USA has similar even though they have state elections...
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
You've no chance convincing some on here. Anything in the Daily Mail is bad. Anything from the senedd good.
'Anything from the Senedd good' - you're suggesting some people support anything put forward by any of the parties in the Senedd? From Labour to Tories? What?
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delmbox
Yeah everybody stand up and fight like Maurice Swan who bravely started a thread on a messageboard about it :flare:
You know what they say about sarcasm......you think that is the only thing I do?
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
H M Government is just as bad as the Welsh Assembly sheep followers......wake up and stop accepting this desecration of the language. You are sleepwalking into Winston Smith's world....next you will be accepting the necessity to have TV surveillance inside your houses to make sure you don't break any rules. Stand up and argue and fight for common sense for goodness sake.
The problem here is that what seems like common sense to you may seem like ill-thought-out, shallow, tabloid induced, reactionary bollocks to some.
I think common sense is a country having its own democratically elected parliament and government, you seems to think that's objectionable.
Tricky, eh?
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
You know what they say about sarcasm......you think that is the only thing I do?
No I think you probably also shout at teenagers for skateboarding
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Read paragraph 2 and 3 .
Of your post? Ok, the Senedd is too small, its responsibilities have expanded since it was established and they need more members as a result
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Originally Posted by
az city
Welsh Labour and Plaid Cymru are the "loony left"?
What would he call the Northern Irish? They seem to agree with the loony Welsh left and the loony Scots. Who are doing naff all against record breaking cases? The loony right in London.
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
You still in France?
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
Stand up and argue and fight for common sense for goodness sake.
Or better still, move to France.
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
Jeepers...can anyone really defend these linguistic dictats?
Maurice in a previous thread you seemed one brilliant guy with his head screwed on, Im utterly amazed, why do you now read shite like the Daily Mail? I know you're better than that.
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Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???
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Originally Posted by
City123
Of your post? Ok, the Senedd is too small, its responsibilities have expanded since it was established and they need more members as a result
Yes , keep avoiding the word cost .
If someone asked the the people of Wales what they wanted between 20 more AM 's plus support structure costs , or extra nurses, I think we all know the answer .
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
What don't you like about plain English?
Er......
Forget it!
:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Yes , keep avoiding the word cost .
If someone asked the the people of Wales what they wanted between 20 more AM 's plus support structure costs , or extra nurses, I think we all know the answer .
Can you offer many examples of countries with similar or bigger populations than Wales that have smaller legislatures than us?
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
Had not seen that - the same comments of stupidy apply....
So you're quite happy to call disabled people handicapped? Do you agree with calling people with a learning disability, retarded, subnormal? What exactly is stupid about any of these 'edicts'? The only thing I find shocking about any of this is that it needs to be stated in the first place. All of the things you seem to be against, to me, appear to be entirely reasonable and justified. Language changes. All words are made up. You seem to be stuck in the past Maurice.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Yes , keep avoiding the word cost .
If someone asked the the people of Wales what they wanted between 20 more AM 's plus support structure costs , or extra nurses, I think we all know the answer .
An extra 30 would cost about £12m: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-53677704
Good luck solving the long term issues facing our health service with that, I'm sure it'll be easy.
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Originally Posted by
City123
I'm sure it could be used somewhere though.
It's not just extra am's, the government here and in London piss money up the wall on all manner of things. It all adds up.
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Originally Posted by
Dave Blue
What would he call the Northern Irish? They seem to agree with the loony Welsh left and the loony Scots. Who are doing naff all against record breaking cases? The loony right in London.
Don't know anything about Northern Ireland but Sturgeon, like Drakeford, is definitely out to make a name for herself and will do the exact opposite of anything England does, no matter what it involves. The point here is that the evidence is clear that Omicron is nowhere near as serious as previous variants and therefore the measures implemented in Wales and Scotland are a total over reaction. Large numbers of cases do not necessarily translate into similar numbers of serious cases, hospitalisations, ICU occupation and deaths. Sturgeon and Drakeford obviously enjoy controlling the lives of their ‘subjects’ and are unlikely to stop trying to do this, even when the pandemic is over.
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Don't know anything about Northern Ireland but Sturgeon, like Drakeford, is definitely out to make a name for herself and will do the exact opposite of anything England does, no matter what it involves. The point here is that the evidence is clear that Omicron is nowhere near as serious as previous variants and therefore the measures implemented in Wales and Scotland are a total over reaction. Large numbers of cases do not necessarily translate into similar numbers of serious cases, hospitalisations, ICU occupation and deaths. Sturgeon and Drakeford obviously enjoy controlling the lives of their ‘subjects’ and are unlikely to stop trying to do this, even when the pandemic is over.
Or the bufoon is just terrified of upsetting his back benchers.
