Kieffer Moore - SIGNS FOR BOURNEMOUTH. CONFIRMED

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31-01-22, 10:29
ccfcwelshlad

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Rjk

is that another loan then presumably?

Not sure. Are we allowed any more short term loans?
31-01-22, 10:30
Rjk

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad

Not sure. Are we allowed any more short term loans?

I think so, yes
31-01-22, 10:31
Trigger

Re: Kieffer Moore

Expected he would be off, we brought back Watters and signed Hugill, all pointed towards this outcome.

Seems lowish fee but I think the 8 mil ive seen mentioned would have been stretching it. Clearly no one has come in with anything better than this offer.

He really has barely looked a 3.5m player this season and that doesn't help.

I suspect it will have potential future add ons.
31-01-22, 10:32
Der Kaiser

Re: Kieffer Moore

Depending on your viewpoint you could say we're losing our most talented player and only good goal scoring striker in a decade who also plays for Wales. The other being we're losing a player who is 30 this year, only has one really good season at championship level, has been average when on the pitch this season and clearly isn't a team player and has sulked his way out of our club. I'll take the second viewpoint for the time being and see how he gets on at Bournemouth, this might no look so bad in a years time.
31-01-22, 10:32
The Lone Gunman

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad

Surridge seems to have made it to Twitter now.

That will be ironic as he was being held up as an example of a player who was signed for a daft fee in an earlier Kieffer Moore thread.

Seems an odd one as he’s a regular on the Stoke bench and they don’t seem to have signed any other strikers.
31-01-22, 10:36
Rjk

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

That will be ironic as he was being held up as an example of a player who was signed for a daft fee in an earlier Kieffer Moore thread.

Seems an odd one as he’s a regular on the Stoke bench and they don’t seem to have signed any other strikers.

he's still pretty young which must boost his fee, certainly ahead of where Kieffer.moore was at the same age.
31-01-22, 10:37
Sloop_Jon_Bee

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad

Think it's a little more than speculated but ultimately it's in line with what Wolves were offering so clearly seen as his market value. We rightly rejected that back in the summer but if anything his value has gone backwards.

Is he worth more than that to us, potentially. But he goes into last year of his contract in summer and no suggestion that he'll sign a new one.

I'm more concerned that he's going somewhere where he's unlikely to even start but I guess that's his decision.

Agree with you. His value has dropped as has is form. 3.5 million may be a good price for us. Seeing that he hasn't taken up vaccinations, i would say potential buyers may be worried by that and for that reason i can't see him gong anywhere.
Spedger
31-01-22, 10:38
Sloop_Jon_Bee

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

Depending on your viewpoint you could say we're losing our most talented player and only good goal scoring striker in a decade who also plays for Wales. The other being we're losing a player who is 30 this year, only has one really good season at championship level, has been average when on the pitch this season and clearly isn't a team player and has sulked his way out of our club. I'll take the second viewpoint for the time being and see how he gets on at Bournemouth, this might no look so bad in a years time.

:thumbup:
31-01-22, 10:39
jon1959

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

That will be ironic as he was being held up as an example of a player who was signed for a daft fee in an earlier Kieffer Moore thread.

Seems an odd one as he’s a regular on the Stoke bench and they don’t seem to have signed any other strikers.

Michael O'Neill was asked about transfers after the game on Friday night, and said he expected to be busy today.

Surridge wasn't even on the bench.
31-01-22, 10:40
The Lone Gunman

Re: Kieffer Moore

Bournemouth are also said to be close to a loan deal for Norwich midfielder Todd Cantwell. They’re clearly going for it.
31-01-22, 10:43
LeningradCowboy

Re: Kieffer Moore

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60195361

Wales striker Kieffer Moore is leaving Cardiff City for Championship promotion-chasers Bournemouth.
31-01-22, 10:44
LeningradCowboy

Re: Kieffer Moore

At least he can't score against us this season.
31-01-22, 10:46
FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Sloop_Jon_Bee

Seeing that he hasn't taken up vaccinations, i would say potential buyers may be worried by that

That's a fair point and I wonder if it has put some clubs off, especially given the amount of games he's missed with us. Several clubs - including Man Utd - have said they're factoring this into their recruitment policy from now on so it's not an unreasonable assumption.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Bournemouth are also said to be close to a loan deal for Norwich midfielder Todd Cantwell. They’re clearly going for it.

Scott Parker getting by on a shoestring budget as ever!
31-01-22, 10:47
celticknight

Re: Kieffer Moore

If Covid Moore has a medical this morning he'll probably fail it.
31-01-22, 10:59
NYCBlue

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Bournemouth are also said to be close to a loan deal for Norwich midfielder Todd Cantwell. They’re clearly going for it.

Now there's a player. I don't really understand what Parker sees in Moore. He's obviously not an EPL player. But I suppose at £3.5M, why not?
31-01-22, 11:05
Grangenders

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Now there's a player. I don't really understand what Parker sees in Moore. He's obviously not an EPL player. But I suppose at £3.5M, why not?

It’s a gamble worth paying. £3.5m now could help secure a £100m + promotion. If they go up they then loan him back to a championship club
31-01-22, 11:10
LeningradCowboy

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Now there's a player. I don't really understand what Parker sees in Moore. He's obviously not an EPL player. But I suppose at £3.5M, why not?

Cantwell isn't a Premier League player either judging by his (lack of) performances for Norwich this season.
31-01-22, 11:11
NYCBlue

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Grangenders

It’s a gamble worth paying. £3.5m now could help secure a £100m + promotion. If they go up they then loan him back to a championship club

Agree. But it won't be easy to loan him out if he's making £25 grand a week.

I pulled that figure from my arse by the way.
31-01-22, 11:14
Nobody's Rep

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Essentially, Cardiff City have been the same for most of the existence, selling their best players often for less than their value. We waited more than ten years for a player to score twenty goals in a season for us and we then sell him for a fee which will barely make a profit for us once Wigan have taken their cut - madness.

Do we know what the cut is for Wigan??
31-01-22, 11:16
Dorcus

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad

Think it's a little more than speculated but ultimately it's in line with what Wolves were offering so clearly seen as his market value. We rightly rejected that back in the summer but if anything his value has gone backwards.

Is he worth more than that to us, potentially. But he goes into last year of his contract in summer and no suggestion that he'll sign a new one.

I'm more concerned that he's going somewhere where he's unlikely to even start but I guess that's his decision.

I'm not in the least bit concerned if he doesn't start. After his childish sulking this season he can rot on the bench as far as I care.
31-01-22, 11:16
Michael Morris

Re: Kieffer Moore

Bournemouth play Peterborough, Derby and Reading in consecutive games in March. If Kieffer scores the winner in each of those he will have helped more than moping around with us.
31-01-22, 11:25
Bobby Dandruff

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Doucas

According to this source we've accepted a £3.5m bid for him.

Disgustingly low.

https://twitter.com/markmcadamtv/sta...C3P7ZNJnw&s=19

Didn't Wolves offer £10m for him at the end of the summer?

That is quite a significant drop in value over a relatively short period of time :yikes:
31-01-22, 11:30
LeningradCowboy

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

Didn't Wolves offer £10m for him at the end of the summer?

That is quite a significant drop in value over a relatively short period of time :yikes:

We were asking for over £10m and Wolves didn't think that Moore was worth it.
31-01-22, 11:32
celticknight

Re: Kieffer Moore

Apparently the fee is £5m if Bournemouth go up.

He's gone from 20 goals in 42 appearances last year to 5 goals in 24, Covid twice and an ankle injury. It doesn't take a huge leap of faith to see why his value dropped.
31-01-22, 11:33
jon1959

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

Didn't Wolves offer £10m for him at the end of the summer?

That is quite a significant drop in value over a relatively short period of time :yikes:

Sky and a few twitter sources are saying £3.5m

BBC and Wales Online are saying £5m

My guess is that Sky are getting their leaks from Bournemouth and BBC/WOL are getting theirs from Cardiff.

Probably complicated by add-ons and the Wigan cut.
31-01-22, 11:42
ccfcwelshlad

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad

Be shocked if we let anyone else out of first team squad with amount of games coming up.

Surridge seems to have made it to Twitter now.

https://twitter.com/BBCSportWales/st...e4Gs1lyow&s=19
31-01-22, 11:46
jon1959

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad

https://twitter.com/BBCSportWales/st...e4Gs1lyow&s=19

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60200276
31-01-22, 11:54
Rjk

Re: Kieffer Moore

not that impressed with either deal this morning tbh

I hope we aren't paying much in loan fees for these deals. it is all very short sighted
31-01-22, 12:03
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Rjk

not that impressed with either deal this morning tbh

I hope we aren't paying much in loan fees for these deals. it is all very short sighted

Moore wants to go, and he's out of contract in 2023. It's now or never. It's disappointing but what can you do?
31-01-22, 12:06
NYCBlue

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Rjk

not that impressed with either deal this morning tbh

I hope we aren't paying much in loan fees for these deals. it is all very short sighted

Unfortunately, we've dug ourselves into too deep of a hole to be anything other than short-sighted. The mission now is to be out of the bottom three in May. That's it.
31-01-22, 12:08
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Unfortunately, we've dug ourselves into too deep of a hole to be anything other than short-sighted. The mission now is to be out of the bottom three in May. That's it.

I don't know what the long term view on Moore should be though? The short sighted thing would be to keep him, or you could certainly argue that.
31-01-22, 12:11
Rjk

Re: Kieffer Moore

the fee for Moore is way too low, it is going to cost a lot more to get in a decent replacement in the summer.
the loan move for surridge is also pointless, we have hughill, Collins, watters, Davies, and Harris and we typically play 2 up front.
I'm not sure he's going to play that much, wouldn't we be better off keeping the money until the summer?
31-01-22, 12:14
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Rjk

the fee for Moore is way too low, it is going to cost a lot more to get in a decent replacement in the summer.
the loan move for surridge is also pointless, we have hughill, Collins, watters, Davies, and Harris and we typically play 2 up front.
I'm not sure he's going to play that much, wouldn't we be better off keeping the money until the summer?

I agree but if Wolves and Bournemouth won't budge on the valuation, it isn't going to get higher in the summer, it'll be much lower. I'm assuming it is 5m provided they go up.

Re Surridge, I'd have rather we signed a wing back if Ng is going to play inside, or even a mobile CB but we've got 13 games in 45 days. We need all hands on deck to get through that. We're playing 2 games a week for a month and a half!
31-01-22, 12:18
Citizen's Nephew

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

I don't know what the long term view on Moore should be though? The short sighted thing would be to keep him, or you could certainly argue that.

Said before. If he wasn't the Wales striker the general consensus would be we'd want to be shot of him. Funny thing is, if we do qualify for the WC then he'll be available for that for sure. Not my kind of striker and not impressed with him this season. As you mentioned just now, the priority is to stay up. Rebuilding and the rest can happen in the summer. I don't like the sheer number of loanees we'll have to rely on to do it as they're a sticking plaster.

But that's just the way it is now and on the plus side, I saw players busting a gut in the City shirt yesterday. The first time this season at home.
31-01-22, 12:21
Rjk

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

I agree but if Wolves and Bournemouth won't budge on the valuation, it isn't going to get higher in the summer, it'll be much lower. I'm assuming it is 5m provided they go up.

Re Surridge, I'd have rather we signed a wing back if Ng is going to play inside, or even a mobile CB but we've got 13 games in 45 days. We need all hands on deck to get through that. We're playing 2 games a week for a month and a half!

wing backs we seem to favour ones who can carry the ball forward and stretch the opposition. while they're both good players that isn't really Ng or Bagan. I'd like them to give Semenyo a chance if there are opportunities towards the end of the season
31-01-22, 12:22
logic

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Rjk

the fee for Moore is way too low, it is going to cost a lot more to get in a decent replacement in the summer.
the loan move for surridge is also pointless, we have hughill, Collins, watters, Davies, and Harris and we typically play 2 up front.
I'm not sure he's going to play that much, wouldn't we be better off keeping the money until the summer?

Logic would indicate that transfer fees are not objective, they are a factor of the amount a buying team is willing to spend and the amount a selling club will be happy to get.

Bearing in mind we're talking about a player who has had a single good season at this level, is hitting 30, doesn't fit the style of play we're going to, has had covid several times this season along with "ankle issue", fired his agent to move to agency looking to move him on, will be in the last year of his contract next season and has been woeful this season when he has actually played - not to mention lack of interest in him from other clubs.

The question therefore is how on earth can you say, will all of that, £3.5m is "too low", what exact leverage do we have to demand more money? Should we turn the deal down, keep him on the books, costing us money whilst not playing / putting in minimal effort only to then leaving for nothing next summer?

If the situation was reversed and we were buying Moore bearing in mind everything stated above, people would be complaining £3.5m was too much!

Should he go to Bournemouth, it'll be for the money; his last "big" contract, content to sit on the bench backing up Solanke - and if they got promoted, I'd not be surprised if they then sold him, as imo he'd be exposed in the Prem.
31-01-22, 12:29
chrisp_1927

Re: Kieffer Moore

Probably the right move for club and player. If he was performing like last season I'd have been gutted to lose him. His heart hasn't been in it this year though! Even when he has played he hasn't put much effort in, much more excited to see what huggill and Davies can do for the rest of the year
31-01-22, 12:37
Gofer Blue

Re: Kieffer Moore

On his performance/attitude this season should we be surprised that his valuation has plummeted? To be honest I'm surprised anyone is interested in him at all!
31-01-22, 12:48
Hilts

Re: Kieffer Moore

Hasnt contributed this season. Missed games with injury covid. Hes let us down.

Glad hes gone.
31-01-22, 13:10
LeningradCowboy

Re: Kieffer Moore

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Originally Posted by Gofer Blue

On his performance/attitude this season should we be surprised that his valuation has plummeted? To be honest I'm surprised anyone is interested in him at all!

Has it actually plummeted though? Wolves didn't think he was worth £10m in the summer.

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