Re: Energy bills to rise by 54% a year for millions
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
We need total home-grown energy security in the UK. Maybe these huge rises in energy prices will be the stimulus required to get every one of us to look at energy saving measures so that the overall demand will come down, with consequently less and less reliance on gas in the first place. Also we need more investment in green technology - necessity being the mother of invention and all that....
A barrage from cardiff to Bristol with a highway linking the two cities is the way to go….enough power for us all in both sides of the Severn I believe….think it’s 12 miles from the Bay over….
Re: Energy bills to rise by 54% a year for millions
Billionaire Chancellor, Rishi Sunak, advised struggling families to take out credit to pay for their energy bills.
BP celebrated a staggering $20 BILLION profit, ensuring massive dividends for their shareholders, including many Tory MP's and Peers.
Johnson in 2016 "BREXIT will guarantee lower fuel prices"
Meanwhile, in Parliament, Johnson makes a snide remark about Starmer for not prosecuting Savile, despite Savile being the darling of the conservatives, a campaigner for the conservatives, appointed to oversee a hospital by the conservatives (where he was abusing children and corpses), knighted due to the conservatives and even after his death defended by some conservatives - Norman Tebbit.
Happy Friday.
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AfricanBluebird
Billionaire Chancellor, Rishi Sunak, advised struggling families to take out credit to pay for their energy bills.
BP celebrated a staggering $20 BILLION profit, ensuring massive dividends for their shareholders, including many Tory MP's and Peers.
Johnson in 2016 "BREXIT will guarantee lower fuel prices"
Meanwhile, in Parliament, Johnson makes a snide remark about Starmer for not prosecuting Savile, despite Savile being the darling of the conservatives, a campaigner for the conservatives, appointed to oversee a hospital by the conservatives (where he was abusing children and corpses), knighted due to the conservatives and even after his death defended by some conservatives - Norman Tebbit.
Happy Friday.
Some excellent points there AB. Maggie Thatcher adored him; they were bosom buddies.
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Dorcus
Some excellent points there AB. Maggie Thatcher adored him; they were bosom buddies.
Thanks Dorcus... just trying to lighten the mood for a Friday :hehe:
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Dorcus
Some excellent points there AB. Maggie Thatcher adored him; they were bosom buddies.
Spent Christmases together…..very cosy…..three heads in a bed with the queen’s second son perhaps.
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I've sobered up now, my spell check is back working, my typing hand /fist is no longer swollen .
We could be self efficient if we didn't restrain ourselves so much now , yes renewables are the answer in the long term, surely it’s about the timing and how we get there .
The green levy is being paid and hurting consumer especially now as world prices go up driven by foreign governments decisions and our lack of self efficiency..
Yes the climate act change in 2008 affected us all sadly its not delivered the benefits quick enough by suspending it we buy some time for the needy .
We actual don't need to import energy we could use our reserves just to get over the next few years we sit on hundreds of years’ worth of coal / oil
We buy in trillions of tonnes of coal to burn whilst we are sat on it
We import Electricity even though we have wind / solar farms, sadly when there is little wind or sun we run low .
USA is now self-efficient by using shale , which we temporary could exploit , the USA kilowatt power is half that of UK .
Why are we not building Nuclear Power stations ?? Hopefully the Roll Royce builds will come on line soon
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life on mars
I've sobered up now, my spell check is back working, my typing hand /fist is no longer swollen .
We could be self efficient if we didn't restrain ourselves so much now , yes renewables are the answer in the long term, surely it’s about the timing and how we get there .
The green levy is being paid and hurting consumer especially now as world prices go up driven by foreign governments decisions and our lack of self efficiency..
Yes the climate act change in 2008 affected us all sadly its not delivered the benefits quick enough by suspending it we buy some time for the needy .
We actual don't need to import energy we could use our reserves just to get over the next few years we sit on hundreds of years’ worth of coal / oil
We buy in trillions of tonnes of coal to burn whilst we are sat on it
We import Electricity even though we have wind / solar farms, sadly when there is little wind or sun we run low .
USA is now self-efficient by using shale , which we temporary could exploit , the USA kilowatt power is half that of UK .
Why are we not building Nuclear Power stations ?? Hopefully the Roll Royce builds will come on line soon
The wholesale price for gas and electricity has doubled under the new energy cap leading to windfall profits for the extraction and generating companies. Compensating energy suppliers for taking on customers from failed suppliers caught out by those rises has added around £70 to the tariff.
The green levy, which is applied to energy companies and rebated if they use renewables raised £2 billion per annum. Under the new cap energy companies have been allowed to increase their profits by 60% from £23 to £37 per tariff. The extra VAT raised on the higher prices results in an extra £2 billion into treasury coffers.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...ects-your-bill
Still, Ed Milliband and the green levy, foreign governments and lack of "self efficiency" eh. Glad you have sobered up.
Re: Energy bills to rise by 54% a year for millions
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
I've sobered up now, my spell check is back working, my typing hand /fist is no longer swollen .
We could be self efficient if we didn't restrain ourselves so much now , yes renewables are the answer in the long term, surely it’s about the timing and how we get there .
The green levy is being paid and hurting consumer especially now as world prices go up driven by foreign governments decisions and our lack of self efficiency..
Yes the climate act change in 2008 affected us all sadly its not delivered the benefits quick enough by suspending it we buy some time for the needy .
We actual don't need to import energy we could use our reserves just to get over the next few years we sit on hundreds of years’ worth of coal / oil
We buy in trillions of tonnes of coal to burn whilst we are sat on it
We import Electricity even though we have wind / solar farms, sadly when there is little wind or sun we run low .
USA is now self-efficient by using shale , which we temporary could exploit , the USA kilowatt power is half that of UK .
Why are we not building Nuclear Power stations ?? Hopefully the Roll Royce builds will come on line soon
Im going out on a limb here
all of the above is the Tories fault, mostly Boris but past tories should also be blamed
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blue matt
Im going out on a limb here
all of the above is the Tories fault, mostly Boris but past tories should also be blamed
You were probably being ironic given that LoM tried to pin it all on a Labour Government levy introduced in 2002 in his opening post.
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Brexit Britain is looking such a brilliant place. Cant even get my blue passport for a couple of years.
Re: Energy bills to rise by 54% a year for millions
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
I've sobered up now, my spell check is back working, my typing hand /fist is no longer swollen .
We could be self efficient if we didn't restrain ourselves so much now , yes renewables are the answer in the long term, surely it’s about the timing and how we get there .
The green levy is being paid and hurting consumer especially now as world prices go up driven by foreign governments decisions and our lack of self efficiency..
Yes the climate act change in 2008 affected us all sadly its not delivered the benefits quick enough by suspending it we buy some time for the needy .
We actual don't need to import energy we could use our reserves just to get over the next few years we sit on hundreds of years’ worth of coal / oil
We buy in trillions of tonnes of coal to burn whilst we are sat on it
We import Electricity even though we have wind / solar farms, sadly when there is little wind or sun we run low .
USA is now self-efficient by using shale , which we temporary could exploit , the USA kilowatt power is half that of UK .
Why are we not building Nuclear Power stations ?? Hopefully the Roll Royce builds will come on line soon
I completely agree with you on nuclear. It's environmentally friendly (in terms of Co2), reliable and can last 40 years. I don't understand why we've been so reliant on foreign resources when we should have made long term investments like this decades ago.
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Doucas
I completely agree with you on nuclear. It's environmentally friendly (in terms of Co2), reliable and can last 40 years. I don't understand why we've been so reliant on foreign resources when we should have made long term investments like this decades ago.
I can't understand the lack of investment into Nuclear over the decades from all parties , they must know the admiral 2018 climate targets and reduction of fossil fuels extraction would effect power solutions in the future
The move by Germany to use coal and Russia rather than phase out Nuclear has probably effected these decisions over the decades in Europe and UK .
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Some sense at last as the goverment agrees 6 new licences to fire up North Sea Oil rigs .
Renewables may only offer part of our energy needs via the Sun or wind sadly they are not able to power the country and may never provide a 100% solution, as we have to power huge generators , therfefore we will always need nuclear, gas, coal, oil or some form of biomass fired solution.
Re: Energy bills to rise by 54% a year for millions
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life on mars
Some sense at last as the goverment agrees 6 new licences to fire up North Sea Oil rigs .
Renewables may only offer part of our energy needs via the Sun or wind sadly they are not able to power the country and may never provide a 100% solution, as we have to power huge generators , therfefore we will always need nuclear, gas, coal, oil or some form of biomass fired solution.
What's this knowledgable sweeping statement based on then?
Re: Energy bills to rise by 54% a year for millions
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life on mars
Some sense at last as the goverment agrees 6 new licences to fire up North Sea Oil rigs .
Renewables may only offer part of our energy needs via the Sun or wind sadly they are not able to power the country and may never provide a 100% solution, as we have to power huge generators , therfefore we will always need nuclear, gas, coal, oil or some form of biomass fired solution.
Unless we own it, it will just go to the highest bidder like UK gas does. We sold our chance of being energy secure a long time ago.
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delmbox
What's this knowledgable sweeping statement based on then?
Physics
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Eric Cartman
Unless we own it, it will just go to the highest bidder like UK gas does. We sold our chance of being energy secure a long time ago.
Sadly you are right
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life on mars
Physics
that seems to go against current UK energy policy then
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life on mars
Physics
And what are your qualifications in physics?
Re: Energy bills to rise by 54% a year for millions
The price cap on energy tariffs for 22 million households will be updated every three months from October, under proposals Ofgem has set out.
The regulator said that moving to quarterly updates to the level of the cap, which is changed twice a year, was its preferred option to try to prevent the cap inflicting losses on suppliers at times of volatility in wholesale prices.
Scary stuff.
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Hilts
Brexit Britain is looking such a brilliant place. Cant even get my blue passport for a couple of years.
they are black :shrug:
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