Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Let’s be honest most companies would get away with murder if not for employment laws, the more they’re stripped away, the further those in charge will go. As TOBW states those with leanings to the Tory party are more likely to be complicit with this. It’s not a big secret.

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How do you work that one out? No member of any party would support the (supposedly illegal) sacking of hundreds of workers and replacement with cheaper agency (supposedly largely foreign) Labour.

If any party did support such actions - and the dont - such an accusation could be thrown at all parties.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

How do you work that one out? No member of any party would support the (supposedly illegal) sacking of hundreds of workers and replacement with cheaper agency (supposedly largely foreign) Labour.

If any party did support such actions - and the dont - such an accusation could be thrown at all parties.

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Cromwell (@Cromwell606) Tweeted: @mrjamesob #BrexitReality
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If you are struggling to understand why only British employees were sacked without notice by DP World and P&O Ferries, here's Deputy Prime Minister Dominic Raab to provide some clarification. https://t.co/dvGen2dQvp https://twitter.com/Cromwell606/stat...GX49tEPVCQeHHw

What a cnut

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

How do you work that one out? No member of any party would support the (supposedly illegal) sacking of hundreds of workers and replacement with cheaper agency (supposedly largely foreign) Labour.

If any party did support such actions - and the dont - such an accusation could be thrown at all parties.

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So you don’t agree that Tory leaning people would be the ones most likely to support the stripping away of workers’ rights.

Another piece by James Wales’ favourite political columnist for him to read. This one is about P and O with some interesting Linked In opinions about that tosser in the video - seems like a dyed in the wool socialist to me.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...erry-employees

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

How do you work that one out? No member of any party would support the (supposedly illegal) sacking of hundreds of workers and replacement with cheaper agency (supposedly largely foreign) Labour.

If any party did support such actions - and the dont - such an accusation could be thrown at all parties.

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For someone who claims not to be a Tory you don't half jump to their defence a lot

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Originally Posted by delmbox

For someone who claims not to be a Tory you don't half jump to their defence a lot

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All the time to be fair

At every opportunity

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Originally Posted by splott parker

So you don’t agree that Tory leaning people would be the ones most likely to support the stripping away of workers’ rights.

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They would be having orgasms

The modern tory party is built on this libertarian let the market rule bollocks

The tory voter has voted for this

So bollocks to them

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

They would be having orgasms

The modern tory party is built on this libertarian let the market rule bollocks

The tory voter has voted for this

So bollocks to them

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Even Tory MP'S are in rage about this .

This is about a nasty company finding a loophole.

No right minded person thinks it is right whoever they vote for .

It's got bugger all to do with Brexit , Evil Boris , or Scum Tories it's about a company that was once decent ,been taking over by some ****witt that had some standing in the world once but has now fallen from grace, and no longer has any decency .

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

In January 2019, P&O removed all of its vessels from the UK register. They now operate under the flags of Cyprus, Finland, Malta, the Netherlands, the Bahamas and Bermuda.

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Aren't some of those countries in Europe ????

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Originally Posted by splott parker

So you don’t agree that Tory leaning people would be the ones most likely to support the stripping away of workers’ rights.

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No

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

The majority of people (not all) will vote with their pocket and this will all be forgotten about in a few months time.

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Surely not the socalist they are always true to the cause , I can tell you now I won't board a P & O vessel , I do like a cheap pint though in Spoons alongside many like-minded raging socialists .

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Would EU employment laws have prevented this?

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No it's ironic many employers were doing this by taking advantage of free movement in order to go over the heads of British workers and bus in much cheaper foreign workers

Is this thread going to moved too?

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Aren't some of those countries in Europe ????

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Good spot, but the employees aren't employed by a boat.

https://twitter.com/snigskitchen/sta...qj9XYgDvQ&s=19

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Even Tory MP'S are in rage about this .

This is about a nasty company finding a loophole.

No right minded person thinks it is right whoever they vote for .

It's got bugger all to do with Brexit , Evil Boris , or Scum Tories it's about a company that was once decent ,been taking over by some ****witt that had some standing in the world once but has now fallen from grace, and no longer has any decency

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So a bit like "Evil Boris" then :shrug:

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Originally Posted by life on mars

No it's ironic many employers were doing this by taking advantage of free movement in order to go over the heads of British workers and bus in much cheaper foreign workers

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Spot on. Irish ferries did exactly that years ago. If you take a ferry, take stena

Incredible.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...epts-its-plans

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Disgraceful behaviour by that company.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60779001

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No, I will never ever use them again! Not this coming summer, but in the next year or two I will be taking the van over to France for a holiday. No way will I be using P&O again

I do wonder if the bigger picture is also being missed here. It's disgusting what the sacked staff have had to put up with , but surely an even bigger question revolves around the fact that this company are still in charge of some of our most vital freight infrastructure. They don't seem to be fit and proper to run british ports, would like to see them pushed out

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Even Tory MP'S are in rage about this .

This is about a nasty company finding a loophole.

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No it isnt. No loophole. They just did the cost/benefit analysis and decided to drive a coach and horses through the employment law requirements because some halfwit told them that was the best approach

They knew it was wrong and knew the cost, they just figured it was one worth paying. (See also: Putin; sanctions)

They are wrong ( see also: Putin; sanctions). Many b2c business and many b2b businesses are changing the way they do stuff like this. They cost in public perception and reputational damage and increasingly, they actually want to display morality at a corporate level. This cuts across environmental policy, employment,tax strategy etc. It's not just lip service, this sort of thing is embedded in corporate culture in a way that it just wasn't a decade ago.