Are there any Trust members living off shore ??Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
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Are there any Trust members living off shore ??Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Are any Trust members living at sea? It's possible I suppose, but I'd doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Judging by their letter they're all at sea..Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
If Penarth is considered off sea then the answer is yes , is it a tax haven , is it a Welsh Monaco ?Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
I think it's safe to say that Penarth is indeed off-sea, which I presume is the opposite of off-shore but you can never be quite sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I'm not shore what's happening any moor.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
They'd never have managed to get that message in a bottle.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Anyone know how many Trust members there are?
That letter wasnt great.
But to be written off as a small collective of individuals is a pretty poor response
Kieffer Moor has gone mate.....keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tito Fuente
**** me, are you on the Spice or something similar? Some of your posts spin me right out, God only knows what they do to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
That's my view of them to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Certain trust members have not helped themselves either.
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Originally Posted by Tuerto
In what respect, Stan?Quote:
Originally Posted by stan butler
I think it was targeted at the Trust's leadership rather than its members. As a Trust member watching this exchange it is difficult to see how this can be reconciled without some changes either at the club or in the Trust as it is clear that relationships have broken down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
The key questions for me is whether this is just a small collection of individuals in each party who have an abrasive relationship or whether there is a more fundamental mindset at the club that questions the necessity of the Trust and it's ability to act as a critical friend and protector of fans' interests.
If it is the latter, and from the childish tone of the club's response it seems that way, then there is a more fundamental issue around the commitment of the club to work with its fan base and the community that seems misguided and narrow minded.
Reigns:facepalm: don’t you start writing any letters:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
At least the CEO’s local club had a decent season.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I think you’re referring to Tonaco. It’s just north of Llantrisant.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Well... what do know....?! We actually agree on something!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
According to the letter the Trust is not a Trust at all. Are they misrepresenting their aims and objectives by purporting to represent a bona fide Trust and are they receiving subscription fees under false pretenses? I hope not. However, if true, it's a shame as some of the financial stuff emanating from the alleged Trust is of great value in reminding us meagre supporters of the financial state the club is in. On the face of it the club's response is entirely reasonable but perhaps there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.
Hmm...hard to know what to say about all this.
To be honest, the tone, content and structure of the original letter was poor in all cases, though you could see what they were getting at. However it came across as a rant, and a pretty demanding rant at that. But the reaction of the club does seem a bit over the top - they seem to have simply swatted it aside, and with some derision.
But...the points they (the club) make do deserve closer attention. They seem to be saying that the Trust is de-registered, and does not meet the FSA's minimum requirements, so is therefore not a recognised body - all fair enough. But you'd think that any group of fans deserves at least a courteous reply, and an explanation. Instead they go off on one.
Now, the club is after all a private business, and they can run it however they please. And they seem happy enough to deal with the Supporters Club, so perhaps there is something else behind this retort. Is it a hangover from the Hammam days? Or is there something else going on here?
What a load of fuss over nothing. The vast majority of fans of all clubs, just want to go to games, hope for a win, or at least a good performance, then win lose or draw, discuss the game over a few beers afterwards.
Supporters trusts, are made up of the small minority of nosey f*ckers who want to know the ins and outs of a cats arse.
Because they pay to go to games, they feel as though they’ve got the right to be involved in how the club is run.
Any supporter who thinks they aren’t just ‘customers’ are kidding themselves.
I wonder who actually wrote the thing!! I have my own thought on that}
Were other members of the trust consulted, let alone other supporters? Or was it written by a small group who consider themselves spokesmen for the supporters whether the supporters want them to be or not?
Cardiff City Supporters Club .......when asked to jump they say how high ?
I think if people had backed the trust in greater numbers in the first place this could mean something
But it means feck all
This is Cardiff City
Your not far wrong with that assessment, I’ve never seen anything from the trust apart from a poster on here who does commentary on HMRC filed accounts in respect of Cardiff CityQuote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
That's bollocksQuote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
They give up their spare time to try and create links between the fans and the club and have the best interests of the club at heart
In return for that they get abuse from fans who want ccfc to be great but are prepared to do the square root of f all
The work the trust did with trying to build links with the local community in Grangetown and Riverside was brilliant to be a part of but saddening to hear it was the first contact between ccfc and the local area since Jesus was a boy .
He's talking shite I am afraidQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
If they are not officially recognised by the club, how is he ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
How many members have they got out of a fan data base of around 200k ?
Do not question Vincent! All attempts to question our fearless leader must be squashed!
If they ceased to become a recognised trust in 2016, how did this come about?
Sludge the trust have little for the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Other than two things you mention what else?
Oh shit I have a feeling this could turn into a monty python sketch now.....Quote:
Originally Posted by stan butler
They don't now after our shitty fan base ignored the chance to get a voiceQuote:
Originally Posted by stan butler
Feck em all
The Trust were behind the alternative blue shirt during the rebrand that raised funds for Ty Hafan.Quote:
Originally Posted by stan butler
Wednesday afternoon! I could have sworn it was MondayQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
The club will be tamping when they find all the letters Dai Hunt sent to the club.
People set up a trustQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
People openly and secretly abuse and threaten members of the trust
And most of our fans want a pot of gold without having to dig for it
So don't bother joining or take the piss out of the trust
Trust loses members
And this goes round and round so people who just want to watch the football and do nothing end up doing CCFCs job for it ......divide and rule
We have what we deserve , the farcical red episode , tan , the trust with no power, the works
Welcome to CCFC 2022
I think someone at the club doesn't like criticism.
The statement includes easily verifiable inaccuracies regarding the FSA.
CCST and CCSC are mentioned on the FSA website - Affiliates and associates - Football Supporters' Association (thefsa.org.uk)
Here you go:Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
http://www.ccfctrust.org/
That answers my question.... I think!Quote:
Originally Posted by IanD
10 board members? And is it a "Company"? They've got more board members than the club. They should offer to meet them in Bedau! Sort it out once and for all!
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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser