New York State Mass Shooting

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Originally Posted by Rjk

if there is a Muslim mass shooting, the people immediately defending and promoting gun ownership will be "white thick as shit gun toting Americans" , so your point doesn't make any sense.
that comment was clearly aimed at groups like the NRA rather than the shooters themselves.

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The NRA are not a racial group. Complete fail.

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

The NRA are not a racial group. Complete fail.

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I think you've completely missed the point

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

There are many examples of white people shooting people of all races in schools , cinemas , shopping precincts etc in America

The Columbine school shooters delibererately targeted afro American children in Denver

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There are many examples of black mass shooters, many in 2022 alone. Why haven't you mentioned them. The Brooklyn mass shooter last month was a black supremacist, murdering white people on the subway. Too characterise this as a white problem just shows how MSM and Hollywood narratives seep into peoples brains. RJK even suggested black mass shooters were drug dealers. Madness.

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Originally Posted by Tito Fuente

Extremely.

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It's Adolf isn't it ?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I think you've completely missed the point

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I really don't think i have. You're making blind suppositions all over the place.
Blind Supposition 1. Black mass shooters were drug dealers.
Supposition 2. the poster i objected to was refering to White people in the NRA. The NRA are not a racial organisation

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

There are many examples of black mass shooters, many in 2022 alone. Why haven't you mentioned them. The Brooklyn mass shooter last month was a black supremacist, murdering white people on the subway. Too characterise this as a white problem just shows how MSM and Hollywood narratives seep into peoples brains. RJK even suggested black mass shooters were drug dealers. Madness.

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I was suggesting why there may be a difference between the data that was linked on this thread and the mystery data that you are still yet to produce that apparently contradicts that.

there are many different ways that you can count "mass shooters" , but I think the way that most people would define it is incidents like this one and the Brooklyn one last month. I never said that black people are never mass shooters by this definition, I'm just disputing your claim that they are the majority of mass shooters.

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

There are many examples of black mass shooters, many in 2022 alone. Why haven't you mentioned them. The Brooklyn mass shooter last month was a black supremacist, murdering white people on the subway. Too characterise this as a white problem just shows how MSM and Hollywood narratives seep into peoples brains. RJK even suggested black mass shooters were drug dealers. Madness.

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Now stop it

I am sure you are not stupid

The vast majority of mass murders in America are carried out by white people

The NRA is an overwhelming right wing , white organisation with links to extremist racist groups in the deep south , the dust bowl states and white America

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

It's Adolf isn't it ?

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Don't be silly Sludge

Facts are important here.

The sad reality is that this was a racist killing by a white guy against black people.

Two recent killings have been by black nationalists whose social media is awash with anti-white racism.

It is really important that American recognises and reports on these things equally, because treating similar incidents differently can help to create an environment where other incidents become more likely.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Now stop it

I am sure you are not stupid

The vast majority of mass murders in America are carried out by white people

The NRA is an overwhelming right wing , white organisation with links to extremist racist groups in the deep south , the dust bowl states and white America

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Come on Sludge, anyone can join the NRA. There's a growing group of black Millitia groups that have sprung up in America. They support open carry of automatic rifles. I'd bet they support the NRA.
As someone with white kids, i hate this increasing trend of the left demonising white people. It's all over this thread. Blind stereotypes everywhere.

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

Come on Sludge, anyone can join the NRA. There's a growing group of black Millitia groups that have sprung up in America. They support open carry of automatic rifles. I'd bet they support the NRA.
As someone with white kids, i hate this increasing trend of the left demonising white people. It's all over this thread. Blind stereotypes everywhere.

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Incredible thing to say on a thread about a racist white guy murdering black people.

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

What has white got to do with it? Very stupid comment. Only a month ago a black mass shooter shot white Americans i don't remember you saying the same then. Statistically mass shooters are more often not white, including ridiculous levels of gang murder.

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**** you. This was white man with a racist agenda.

And this statement is bollocks "Statistically mass shooters are more often not white, including ridiculous levels of gang murder".

Back it up.

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

What has white got to do with it? Very stupid comment. Only a month ago a black mass shooter shot white Americans i don't remember you saying the same then. Statistically mass shooters are more often not white, including ridiculous levels of gang murder.

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/...hooter-s-race/

Of course it was a racially motivated attack.

At one point he finds a guy under a checkout, aims the gun, sees it’s a white guy and goes ‘Oh sorry’ and moves on.

He has a detailed manifesto...****ing psycho, loser, POS.

This Lither has already mentioned MSM and algorithms. I have friends like this, convinced i have been brainwashed, when it is they who now hold more extreme and unbalanced views.

This is the world now.

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

This Lither has already mentioned MSM and algorithms. I have friends like this, convinced i have been brainwashed, when it is they who now hold more extreme and unbalanced views.

This is the world now.

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I'm not sure if Lither is still on this thread but if anyone knows him personally please reach out. It seems this terrorist attack has triggered and and made him very anxious.

While there are many different opinions on this board, when there is such a tragedy, posters are generally united in empathy for the victims and condemnation of the perpetrator(s) - whatever ethnicity, religion or gender of both.

So it is strange seeing Lither, in a thread that is condemning the events, jump from false allegations against posters, to leftish algorithms, the MSM and strangely making a white supremacists mass shooting of black people in the US about his white children. That is not someone to be reasoned with, but someone who needs help.

In view of the comments about the sources of data above, I found this table of murder stats from the FBI which I presume we can trust?

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ender_2013.xls

Admittedly this is from 2013 and things may have changed since then, but it seems that the vast majority of whites are killed by whites and the vast majority of blacks are killed by blacks. Please note these data are for murder in general - there is no distinction between mass killings vs "one on one" killings.

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

Any need for the patronising response? Another one who's swallowed leftist MSM tripe. Firstly, before i dig out the stats on my old PC. are you saying i'm wrong? If so Explain your reasoning. Cheers

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You’ve written a hell of a lot of posts since this one, get the “real” stats out from your reputable source, simple as that