She was originally a bloke? 😕Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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She was originally a bloke? 😕Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
It's quite amusing that believers think that deities physically resemble human beings whether they be male or female.
Deities presumably wouldn't have a navel, sexual organs or physiology that evolved in one particular species millions of years after the deity created the universe.
Our physical appearance is the result of conditions on one particular planet with a specific chemical environment, within certain temperature bands and with a defined level of gravity.
We homo sapiens are an extreme latecomer to the party in evolutionary terms and we may well go extinct - so why a deity would think so far in advance to mirror a certain species at a particular window in time on one particular planet is truly ridiculous.
Deities are man-made but if one existed it could be, for all we know: sexless, weightless, lacking in physical form, colourless and just a wisp of gas that can exist anywhere in the known universe.
Our deities who supposedly created the universe and who resemble blokes before razor blades were invented or with elephant heads represent parochialism in extremis.
My sexual organs were definitely created by a godQuote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
God created man in his own image. So he's multiracial and bi-sexual. His pronouns are they/them/theirs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Like many others, you do a lot of talking about a deity that you are (supposedly) convinced doesn't exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
And for the record, YHWH has as much to do with the idea of evolution as you employ logic.
Great laugh for a Monday morning though - so very welcome :thumbup:
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
IF and i do mean if ! there was a God why would he let Black metal exist?
sludge!
I tend to talk about deities rather than just one of the many thousands that have existed. Culture around the world fascinates me and religion is part of all that - and I do make an effort to learn about them a great deal in my travels around the world whether it be Shintoism, Native American spirits, Sikhism, Buddhism, paganism or the various branches of Abrahamism - and I'm looking forward to visiting the Pyramids at Giza the day after tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
Religion is a truly fascinating subject but deities say a great deal about the people that invented them in the first place. It's all about human psychology and related to time and space.
By the way, how's the talking snake?
So was the acorn.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
:hehe: HARSHQuote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
My introduction to religion would have been a grubby old bloke muttering some strange gibberish and wielding a Stanley knife type implement, whilst slicing off a bit of my todger.
Not a great introduction and when old enough to appreciate the finer things in life it turns out I couldn’t go out on a Friday or have a bacon sarnie on a Saturday.
Accordingly, I have adopted the go straight to Hell lifestyle.
As or when I get judged by whichever being is in charge then I do have a few questions and I will be carrying a very blunt blade.
😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Very clearly still pulling your strings (as he is with many millions of people via some of the religions you list above).Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Nothing new under the sun.
Pulling my strings? Hardly. Just one example of gullible people believing in the most ridiculous stories throughout history.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
Sorry to repeat myself but it's all bullshit
You should just come out and tell us what you think on the matter mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I am building up to itQuote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
Rexburg Idaho
95 per cent of the residents of the town , population 40000 , are members of the church of later day saints
Barmy Army
Didn't they win the welsh cup and Welsh premier league?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Loads of aggro before the game
May all the gods in human history have mercy on your soul.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
FAO Truthpaste: Today I have visited several mosques, numerous Coptic Christian churches, a Greek Orthodox Church and I have seen artefacts dedicated to a multitude of other gods, some in animal form (such as lions and vultures), others that were human hybrids (a female with a crocodile's head and an ox's head on a man's body) and other inanimate objects worshipped such as the sun. Fascinating stuff all round.
P. S. The synagogue was closed for renovation.
Fingers crossed I’ve not pissed off the real one, if there is a real one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Bravo. What do you think draws you to places of (what you classify as) human invention?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
After all I'm guessing you steer clear of places that take fairies, goblins and wizards seriously.
TBG is a cultured man. He also goes to art galleries, cinemas, theatres and bookshops. All places of human invention that provide entertainment, diversion and intellectual challenge. Only a closed mind would find that odd!Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
And he's got a beach bar in his Garden.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Its all the same,man made.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
I'm drawn to all sorts of facets, old fruit. Geographic wonders, linguistics, people, psychology, sport, real ale, music, customs, how we are conditioned and a multitude of other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
However people behave it's interesting to know why: in the case of religion it's about belief systems foisted upon them by rulers, empires, parents, peer groups etc.
That is part of history, the movement of peoples, conflict and a lot else. Language is similar in that respect. Show me a native Spanish speaker anywhere on the globe and it's likely that we can probably guess not only his or her deity but the exact schism pertaining to it.
You are a native English speaker brought up in a country where Christianity has been the dominant religion and where you were almost certainly taught Christianity at school, have been subjected to renditions of God Save The Queen, probably sang carols at school and your parents were probably either Christian even if nominally.
Native English speakers in the UK are likely to be Christians if they have any religion at all and history tells us why. All that is exceedingly interesting but had you been born 4,000 years ago where I am right now you would have been worshipping other deities.
Try and take the blinkers off and have an overview of humanity taking into account time and space.
By the way, many of your Bible stories were filched from preceding religions.
I believe so :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Nice try, unfortunately one of your gods, science, in this case archaeology keeps on proving that the accounts written in the Bible are 100% true, much to the dismay of most of your fellow skeptics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
You are a native English speaker brought up in a country where Christianity has been the dominant religion and where you were almost certainly taught Christianity at school, have been subjected to renditions of God Save The Queen, probably sang carols at school and your parents were probably either Christian even if nominally.
Native English speakers in the UK are likely to be Christians if they have any religion at all and history tells us why. All that is exceedingly interesting but had you been born 4,000 years ago where I am right now you would have been worshipping other deities.
A naive set of assumptions, and quickly sunk by very recent events in historically non-Christian countries like *Iran and China, just to name two of numerous countries seeing genuine Christianity sweeping the land.
* According to scholar Ladan Boroumand "Iran today is witnessing the highest rate of Christianization in the world",and according to scholar Shay Khatiri of Johns Hopkins University “Islam is the fastest shrinking religion in there [Iran], while Christianity is growing the fastest”, and in 2018 "up to half a million Iranians are Christian converts from Muslim families, and most of these Christians are evangelicals", and he adds "recent estimates claim that the number might have climbed up to somewhere between 1 million and 3 million". - SOURCE
Science is neither a god nor a religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
It means knowledge.
Ironic that you didn't know that.
Perhaps the talking donkey in Numbers should have told you.
Our knowledge improves with time and new discoveries.
Many of the greatest minds have welcomed others disproving their theories if it means improving our knowledge.
It's the antithesis to religion in that respect.
I've never suggested you follow religion, for the same reason that you shouldn't automatically follow science, both of them constantly correct their former presumptions! Anything that aspires to present the Truth must be properly tested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
The Bible says - "Test all things" - and such advice doesn't exclude the testing of the Bible.
As for the Donkey, he was actually serving his creator, something that you've not yet managed to do!
Maybe to understand you need to consider another ass-pect of this to refresh your world-view :thumbup:
Yes, but who made man? God by any chance?Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
All science can explain is "how" religion explains the "why"? There is no competition between the two, you can be a religious scientist. Many are...Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
About 3 to 4 percent of doctors and the like are religiousQuote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
So not many at all
No , no chance at allQuote:
Originally Posted by Lither_1927
God has feck all to do with evolution
Because he doesn't exist
Utter garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
And when will the penny drop, religion is man-made, like evolution.
The only guy who can rescue individuals is Christ Jesus, He rescued me 54 years ago.
Relationship, not religion :thumbup:
Highly educated people like doctors and scientists are extremely unlikely to be religious and believe in the God myth .....because they can see what utter nonsense it all isQuote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
The figure is 3 to 4 percent
It switches for uneducated people .....no money .....no hope ? .......along come the holy people with the bible or whatever for you to read
Christianity is huge in Africa where many of the people are poor and uneducated ......thanks to your mates the missionaries spreading the word to vulnerable people
The Catholic Church did very well getting people to sign up in Ireland ......loads of poverty!
Check out the figures , it's true
Poorly educated people .......God botherers
Just seen that clip of that idiot in the hat outside an abortion clinic in Newry, Northern Ireland with his stupid placard and his mates with crucifixes and rosary beads , telling the reporter that the doctors deliver MANY babies that were first thought to be likely to be disabled
I mean what utter twisted feckwits are these people ?
He's got no idea of the facts yet gets his gormless stupid face on the TV talking as though he's some kind of qualified doctor
It's all bollocks , stay at home and read your bible or whatever your religious book is , all nonsense
It's like swingers parties , do it behind closed doors
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Originally Posted by Lither_1927
There's no competition between the two?
There's even competition between different religions.
Religion is fantasy and for the most part and science tries to establish fact.
Couldn't be more opposite.
Talking elephants, buffaloes, snakes and donkeys don't explain anything apart from human psychology.