The Pipelines - Whodunnit?

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Originally Posted by delmbox

That would be great, thank you. We look forward to you never mentioning the great reset again

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KNOCK KNOCK

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

KNOCK KNOCK

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Who's there?

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Originally Posted by Canton Kev

Who's there?

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Great

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Can't see what Russia gains from it, so with that and that video from Biden it was probably some naughty little Navy SEALS

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Why would the US do it? They have nothing to gain, Russia is almost certainly the culprit, because:

1. It will probably affect the price of gas, and Russia is heavily reliant on income from that source at the moment (yes, they are still selling to lots of other countries). If you go back over the last few decades, Russia's periods of aggression have regularly coincided with an influx of wealth due to a rise in the price of gas and oil. Not just Russia - lots of oil/gas countries spend their new found wealth attacking their neighbours.

2. It puts more pressure on those European countries who have, until recently, been dependant on Russian gas. The chances of that supply resuming were slim, now they are non-existent. Germany, for example, is facing a cold winter.

3. And this is the biggie. It tells every country in Europe that Russia can destroy their infrastructure at will. Oil or gas pipes, underground electricity cables, internet cables - you name it, they can break it. Even road and rail tunnels. And we will never be able to prove that they did it. With Denmark and Germany now very dependant on Norwegian gas it doesn't take a genius to figure out that their pipelines are now very vulnerable. It's a warning.

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Originally Posted by tforturton

Why would the US do it? They have nothing to gain, Russia is almost certainly the culprit, because:

1. It will probably affect the price of gas, and Russia is heavily reliant on income from that source at the moment (yes, they are still selling to lots of other countries). If you go back over the last few decades, Russia's periods of aggression have regularly coincided with an influx of wealth due to a rise in the price of gas and oil. Not just Russia - lots of oil/gas countries spend their new found wealth attacking their neighbours.

2. It puts more pressure on those European countries who have, until recently, been dependant on Russian gas. The chances of that supply resuming were slim, now they are non-existent. Germany, for example, is facing a cold winter.

3. And this is the biggie. It tells every country in Europe that Russia can destroy their infrastructure at will. Oil or gas pipes, underground electricity cables, internet cables - you name it, they can break it. Even road and rail tunnels. And we will never be able to prove that they did it. With Denmark and Germany now very dependant on Norwegian gas it doesn't take a genius to figure out that their pipelines are now very vulnerable. It's a warning.

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Why would the US do it?, you asked

Here's the US Defense Secretary detailing all the "opportunities" the shutting down of those pipelines present. One is to charge Europeans way more for their Yank-supplied liquid natural gas than what they were paying for Russia's supply.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/SecBlinken?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SecBlinken</a> celebrates Nordstream bombings: &quot;A tremendous opportunity to once &amp; for all remove the dependence on Russian energy &amp; thus to take away from Putin the weaponization of energy ... That's very significant &amp; offers tremendous strategic opportunity for the years to come&quot; <a href="https://t.co/ra64B00yqd">pic.twitter.com/ra64B00yqd</a></p>&mdash; Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) <a href="https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1576887542540017667?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So now we know.... after almost 2 years of lies, deflection and speculation.

Ukraine did it - and the US knew before the attack.

Thanks, Wall Street Journal.