Project fear was right all along.

'UK GDP is 5.2 per cent smaller than the modelled,*doppelgänger*UK; investment is 13.7 per cent lower; and goods trade, 13.6 per cent lower'

https://www.cer.org.uk/publications/...-brexit-so-far

This is absolutely damning and the usual suspects have their head in the sand.

Speak to any business owner who exports or imports from the EU and ask if brexit has improved things for them. My family has a business that imports food from abroad and its been an absolute nightmare.

There is no point even talking to brexiters or tories now. Their mental takes need to just be ignored while the adults in the room fix their mistakes.

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Originally Posted by Doucas

'UK GDP is 5.2 per cent smaller than the modelled,*doppelgänger*UK; investment is 13.7 per cent lower; and goods trade, 13.6 per cent lower'

https://www.cer.org.uk/publications/...-brexit-so-far

This is absolutely damning and the usual suspects have their head in the sand.

Speak to any business owner who exports or imports from the EU and ask if brexit has improved things for them. My family has a business that imports food from abroad and its been an absolute nightmare.

There is no point even talking to brexiters or tories now. Their mental takes need to just be ignored while the adults in the room fix their mistakes.

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100% it doesn’t matter how many real world examples you give it’s just constant denial or whataboutery.

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Originally Posted by lardy

I haven't said we are at the back of the queue. You need to look on the left of your screen to see who has responded to you.

You said "We're in talks with the Americans." The PM says we're not and won't be starting any time soon.

So where is your evidence that "We're in talks with the Americans"?

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The topic and point i responded to was the lies told by remain. I think you need to look at the threads you're responding to. we have been in talks with America and we're not at the back of the queue. Any suggestion of this is palpable nonesense from remainers who can't accept the result of a democratic vote. When Obama said we'd be at the back of the queue, it was a feeble attempt to scare gullible voters and interfere with the democratic process by the president of a foriegn country. We are not at the back of the queue and never were at the back of the queue. America is one of our closest allies ffs 😆 that's me out of our conversation, as i find the whole thing too stupid for words

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Originally Posted by HyperboreanCCFC

The topic and point i responded to was the lies told by remain. I think you need to look at the threads you're responding to. we have been in talks with America and we're not at the back of the queue. Any suggestion of this is palpable nonesense from remainers who can't accept the result of a democratic vote. When Obama said we'd be at the back of the queue, it was a feeble attempt to scare gullible voters and interfere with the democratic process by the president of a foriegn country. We are not at the back of the queue and never were at the back of the queue. America is one of our closest allies ffs 😆 that's me out of our conversation, as i find the whole thing too stupid for words

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Just to settle this one, there isn't a queue, the U.S. aren't interested in a deal, and the UK would have to drop standards that would mean we'd lose trade with Europe.

So you're both right, we're neither at the back nor at the front because there is no prospect of getting a deal and the UK isn't seeking it.

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

Just to settle this one, there isn't a queue, the U.S. aren't interested in a deal, and the UK would have to drop standards that would mean we'd lose trade with Europe.

So you're both right, we're neither at the back nor at the front because there is no prospect of getting a deal and the UK isn't seeking it.

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If there isn't a queue, Obama(leader of the most powerful country in the world) was lying to British voters during an election campaign. Remainers not bothered so much by that for some bizarre reason
The Americans would love a deal with one of it's closest allies and 5th biggest economy in the world.

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Originally Posted by HyperboreanCCFC

The topic and point i responded to was the lies told by remain. I think you need to look at the threads you're responding to. we have been in talks with America and we're not at the back of the queue. Any suggestion of this is palpable nonesense from remainers who can't accept the result of a democratic vote. When Obama said we'd be at the back of the queue, it was a feeble attempt to scare gullible voters and interfere with the democratic process by the president of a foriegn country. We are not at the back of the queue and never were at the back of the queue. America is one of our closest allies ffs �� that's me out of our conversation, as i find the whole thing too stupid for words

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So no evidence that we're in talks with the Americans.

Agreed, it was a stupid conversation and you're right to back out of it.

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So no evidence that we're in talks with the Americans.

Agreed, it was a stupid conversation and you're right to back out of it.

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Well done for missing the point of whether project fear was right. Some feat that

I’d say project fear was almost as much bollox as the Leave campaign, but it’s the Daily Telegraph, or one of its writers at least, who is saying it was right all along.

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I've quite clearly stated there.. "notwithstanding the chaos of the last few weeks". The mini budget (or at least it's delivery and some of its content) was clearly a grave error, but nothing to do with Brexit. Thats what this thread is about, no?

Again, can anyone name a comparable European country not undergoing more or less the same problems as the UK at the moment?

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So the right wing libertarians who funded Brexit are nothing to do with the right wing libertarians who wrote Kwarteng’s Trussonomics budget which had nothing to do with the chaos of the last few weeks and the crashing of the UK economy?

If any good comes from this fiasco it will be that these people and all their backers in the right wing press and think tanks and hedge funds are never listened to again.

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Originally Posted by Delbert

So the right wing libertarians who funded Brexit are nothing to do with the right wing libertarians who wrote Kwarteng’s Trussonomics budget which had nothing to do with the chaos of the last few weeks and the crashing of the UK economy?

If any good comes from this fiasco it will be that these people and all their backers in the right wing press and think tanks and hedge funds are never listened to again.

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Hear hear

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Originally Posted by Delbert

So the right wing libertarians who funded Brexit are nothing to do with the right wing libertarians who wrote Kwarteng’s Trussonomics budget which had nothing to do with the chaos of the last few weeks and the crashing of the UK economy?

If any good comes from this fiasco it will be that these people and all their backers in the right wing press and think tanks and hedge funds are never listened to again.

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Truss was a remainer but nice try lol

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Originally Posted by HyperboreanCCFC

Truss was a remainer but nice try lol

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She was then she wasn't

We are going for growth ....no we are not

Kwasi is my money man .....oh no he isn't

Up yours

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

She was then she wasn't

We are going for growth ....no we are not

Kwasi is my money man .....oh no he isn't

Up yours

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Do you know who this one is Sludge? He uses his more familiar one on the main board but has changed it for this one? Go on guess.