Where now for Wales?

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

I don’t wanna piss on your chips, but prattling on about these players being in the Premier League, is utter nonsense.

Yes, they are registered with Premier League clubs, but they are nowhere near making appearances for them. They are all loaned out to lower league clubs.

By your evaluation, Ojo was a Premier League player :hehe::hehe: utter nonsense

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Premier League clubs tend to not play inexperienced younger players, preferring the establish pro's instead. That's why they break through at an older age than they used to.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

I don’t wanna piss on your chips, but prattling on about these players being in the Premier League, is utter nonsense.

Yes, they are registered with Premier League clubs, but they are nowhere near making appearances for them. They are all loaned out to lower league clubs.

By your evaluation, Ojo was a Premier League player :hehe::hehe: utter nonsense

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Only Owen Beck and Ryan Ashley are on loan from EPL clubs, so just 2 of the 5 mentioned in the article. Both of them are on loan to League 1 clubs. The others are at a non-league club, SPL club and a League 2 club. Quite how this translates to the Welsh squad being full of EPL players in the near future is beyond me!

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Originally Posted by Harry Bosch

Only Owen Beck and Ryan Ashley are on loan from EPL clubs, so just 2 of the 5 mentioned in the article. Both of them are on loan to League 1 clubs. The others are at a non-league club, SPL club and a League 2 club. Quite how this translates to the Welsh squad being full of EPL players in the near future is beyond me!

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We've already got 12 so only need a few more :biggrin:

...Another thing I sometimes wonder about is the motivation of the English born players.

I mean, I reckon that at least a proportion of them probably weigh up the likelihood of getting into the England squad and opt for Wales because they don't have the confidence in their abilities in terms of England but maybe they do when it comes to Wales.

The way things are looking , the next generation of Wales first teamers will be born outside the country...mostly in England.

You can talk about Rugby's effect on the Welsh national team but maybe the influx of players born outside the country also effects Wales-born players chances.

I sound like a right anglophobe but I do not underestimate the passion some have for playing for Wales. I think Dan James would be a Welsh player regardless of his chances with England, for example. Probably the same for a few others.

There are probably a few young, impressionable Ben Turners in there too there.......who I guess might develop an allegiance as their are growing up with the different Wales squads.

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

...Another thing I sometimes wonder about is the motivation of the English born players.

I mean, I reckon that at least a proportion of them probably weigh up the likelihood of getting into the England squad and opt for Wales because they don't have the confidence in their abilities in terms of England but maybe they do when it comes to Wales.

The way things are looking , the next generation of Wales first teamers will be born outside the country...mostly in England.

You can talk about Rugby's effect on the Welsh national team but maybe the influx of players born outside the country also effects Wales-born players chances.

I sound like a right anglophobe but I do not underestimate the passion some have for playing for Wales. I think Dan James would be a Welsh player regardless of his chances with England, for example. Probably the same for a few others.

There are probably a few young, impressionable Ben Turners in there too there.......who I guess might develop an allegiance as their are growing up with the different Wales squads.

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A lot of English born players are the children of economic migrants, and it doesn't make them any less Welsh.

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

I didn't recognise the Gavin & Stacey reference as I've never watched it but picked up on Savile immediately.

Says more about me doesn't it?

'Now then...'

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I was too polite to point that out! 😜

Watching Vinny Jones in a Welsh shirt trying to cope with Stoichkov was one of the funniest and most bizarre things I’ve seen on a football pitch!

Cardiff airport.

Guess it’s between us and Turkey for the 2nd spot in the group for Euro 24…..assuming Croatia still have to many good players to flop?

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

Watching Vinny Jones in a Welsh shirt trying to cope with Stoichkov was one of the funniest and most bizarre things I’ve seen on a football pitch!

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This looks totally random but it was meant as a reply to Wales-Bales

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A lot of English born players are the children of economic migrants, and it doesn't make them any less Welsh.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I think south america have been stitched up a bit - they have won just under half of all the world cups (with UEFA winning the rest), and will have as many qualification spots as Concacaf who have a couple of quarter finals ever.

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There's only 10 teams in CONMEBOL though so 60% will qualify. They also get a playoff spot so you could have 7 countries from South America out of the 10, I'd say that's fair representation

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

A lot of English born players are the children of economic migrants, and it doesn't make them any less Welsh.

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I understand. Hence what I said about James and probably "a few others".

I'm pretty sure there are some who would opt to play for England though if the chance befell them.

Maybe I'm being cynical though.