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I think cyclists and motorists can behave like idiots on the road
But I think that us drivers even though sometimes it can be a pain , need to be patient and drive with care around cyclists
Skin and bone against metal , tyres and the road is only going to lead to horrific conclusions and I want to enjoy my time on the planet not spend 3 years in prison for death by dangerous driving
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Originally Posted by BLUETIT
You think Cardiff has a designated cycle network?
What I mean is a totally separate road network with protection from all other non cycle traffic. It would take years but if they are serious about the environment ( which I doubt they are otherwise we wouldn’t be having this thread) this is what they need to do.
Just happenedQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4nrgewwldxo
Several lives changed forever in seconds thereQuote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Absolutely. It's the only way forward I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
I've stopped cycling on roads as I personally know of 2 people who have been killed and a number more who have had serious injuries due to cars. One was a young father out for a bit of exercise with his friend, and never came home, friend in a coma. Young family now without their father... Absolutely horrendous.
As you said before, mainly due to people on their phones behind the wheel, or just not giving cyclists the due care and attention they should have. Where cycle lanes are not being used and cyclists are on the roads, then you have to question how well the cycle lane functions as a serious alternative...
Sludge is right - cyclists might be a pain, but the human body is no match for a car. The vast majority of the time the car won't get to its destination any slower, despite being held up for a short while behind a bike. Overtake when safe only. Why risk somebody else's life (and the impact on yours) for a bit of irritation which ultimately doesn't make any difference.
Some of the attitues towards cyclists is quite shocking (though unfortunately not unexpected). I think driving in general got worse during lockdown, and seems to have remained poor. RIP to the poor man who lost his life yesterday.
Mobile phone driversQuote:
Originally Posted by welshyoot
So many accidents waiting to happen
It's incredible how many idiots still use them
I want to be able should it happen to me to be able to say to the family ....I am so sorry your brother died but he crashed into me and it wasn't my fault
Slightly off topic , but cycling is not only good for physical exercise, it’s up there with one of the best pastimes for mental health. An hour a day on a bike can really lift one’s mood and sets you up nicely for the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I admire those that get out and do the hours and miles on the roads , especially in the winterQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Great engines , superb aerobic fitness
Generally quite skinny though ?
I suppose most are that said, if you want to lean up do some cycling and eat less calories than you burn. ( that applies to any exercise) You could cycle for hours but if you eat rubbish all day you won’t lose any weight, not unless you’re fortunate in respect of your metabolismQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I enjoy walking , it's the mobile phone and boy racer mob that would stop me from getting on the bikeQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Always strikes me as a bit rich when people who are filling the air full of toxic fumes pretend to give lessons to others.
Noise pollution is considered anti-social behaviour. People who pollute the air should be regarded in a similar light.
As for cyclists. The negative impact they have on society are relatively inconsequential. The positive consequences of more people cycling (or walking for that matter) are undeniable.
Yep. I was texting my mate something similar when I was doing 80 down the A470.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Why notQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
You had a spare moment
You have every right
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
All jokes aside, I remember not long after I passed my test having a close escape lighting up a fag while driving. Phones? Mine is always on silent anyway but it's always out of the way and I've never considered using one, even hands free, when driving.
I hate mobile phonesQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I only have one to dial for a kebab 🥙
Lots of kebab shops have an app nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
That would mean me using a phoneQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
How the feck do you phone them?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I phone them using my landlineQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I like talking to people on a normal phone
I don't like mobile phones
Tablets I can deal with
You know those blue tablets are no good for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Learn to get it up without them, do some exercise sonny.
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Originally Posted by BLUETIT
You thought Cardiff had a designated cycle network earlier in the thread, no sign of it in that picture. Nasty little stretch by there. A narrow cycle lane suddenly disappears and the cyclist is left to deal with traffic pulling out of Ninian Park Road with no regard for them followed by an often blocked left hand lane which is so narrow there's no way of making progress (due to the cycle lane having disappeared). If you then want to go straight on you have to pray the cars turning left into Sloper Road have seen you, once the lights go green there it's like the start of a grand prix. Horrible. I've weaved into middle lane there when the lights are red to try and avoid some of the problems, maybe that's what the poor guy tried to do the other day and paid the ultimate price.
Ironically, the Council had been planning to introduce cycle lanes between Wellington Street and Lawrenny Avenue - with that continuing through the Mill and into Ely. Someone didn't keep their side of the bargain though and that got scrapped so the Wellingon Street cycle lane still stops by Kitchener Road School and cyclists have to take their chances from there. Maybe the situation will be looked at again now. Random bike lanes here and there are no real encouragement for people to leave their cars at home if you're putting your life at risk trying to get from one to another.
Whilst driving up someone's arse after the 50 average camera where NOBODY seems to go to 70.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
How old is that phone ?
Never seen one with a dial on it, all mine have had buttons
The inconsistency of the cycle lanes is a real problem, at various points they seem to run out and merge with motor traffic. Ive always thought that it’s a recipe for disaster. There must be a way of solving this, it’s quite evident that motor vehicles & push bikes don’t mix well. A consistent, definite separation would, hopefully, solve the problem of the inconsiderate factions in both camps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loramski
Love cyclists.....Tories though....:xmashehe:
Tell us about the time your Penny-farthing crashed into a Bone Shaker Mr P! :xmashehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
If they are so desperate for people to use bikes they need to use their brains, don't reduce road space unless you have to, develop the taff trail, and provide safe routes to up from other parts of Cardiff. Consider using access alongside railway lines and straight routes into the City.
It will never catch on 24/7 though, as it's way too cold and wet in the winter and too wet most of the year except maybe June to the end of August.
The other problem is theft if do go out and decent bike £1,000 to £10,000 for some electric bikes, you couldn't really leave them anywhere out of sight as they'd be stolen in a minute, even the best locks are not safe as the thieves are using cordless angle grinders in plain sight.
:facepalm:Some day that was, on my way back from Fir Park after watching Riverside, a horse bolted, frightened by the flag some bugger was waving in front of a motorised contraption, ran straight across the cobbles towards me. My plus fours got caught in the spokes causing me to swerve into the bone shaker. Two days in the Sanatorium dosed up on cocaine........great days:xmasthumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
Maybe a CCMB cycle ride will heal the wounds....Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
:xmashehe: Well if it was good enough for Mr Holmes and that lovely Dr Freud then that's worth totalling a Penny Farthing for! :xmasthumbup::xmashehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Exactly, it was a hell of a crack:getscoat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
When I was a lad alloy listz rode on the road. They should ot be allowed o pavements/footpaths. They ride through the pedestrian areas in town a d are a menace. I e see polic stop them but the don't do it enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja
Sorry my last post was so rubbish, I had to rest the phone on the steering wheel!!
A pain in the ass. Ban the lot of them.
I almost had to pull in to read it!!Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle