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He’s very credible. He was invited onto the BBC News channel this morning and spoke for a few minutes on the MRNA jabs and how they are causing heart problems. The BBC presenter accepted his words after asking him to clarify them.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
The narrative is flipping because the truth is undeniable. Many people have suffered harm and many more people have relatives and friends who have suffered harm.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/statu...hEdOyc-SZE7evw
I'd argue that ignoring decades and centuries of scientific progress, and the millions of scientists who have written millions of papers in favour of something what I read on the internet is blind acceptance.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
In her tweet below from last March she was so 'informed' she believed 'vaccines prevent serious illness, hospitalization and death from COVID-19'. :donkey:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Lisa Marie Presley received a COVID booster on January 2. Source reports that she was complaining of chest pains earlier this week.</p>— Harold Sacks (@ThuleanItalian) <a href="https://twitter.com/ThuleanItalian/status/1613772303845695488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lisa Marie Presley was a big proponent of the vaccine, she even did an advertisement for it. She started in March of last year. And would’ve had her final booster within the last month. There’s nothing wrong with questioning.. <a href="https://t.co/IpQ4AUphlo">pic.twitter.com/IpQ4AUphlo</a></p>— AMERICA’S MAGA REGULATOR 👊🏽🩸 (@perkinsgirl1) <a href="https://twitter.com/perkinsgirl1/status/1613766137249923072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
IndeedQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Here's another needle pusher who recently bit the dust. The replies to the second tweet, his original one, didn't garner many sympathetic replies following his death.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“If you decline Moderna and are "waiting" for Pfizer you are a piece of garbage. Take the f**king vaccine you are able to get.“ <br><br>- Liam Coward, June 2021<br><br>Liam Coward <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/diedsuddenly?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#di edsuddenly</a> one week ago of “unknown causes” at the age of 27. <a href="https://t.co/1HCzFH6RCL">pic.twitter.com/1HCzFH6RCL</a></p>— DiedSuddenly (@DiedSuddenly_) <a href="https://twitter.com/DiedSuddenly_/status/1610820853582778370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hot take: if you decline Moderna and are “waiting” for Pfizer you are a piece of garbage. Take the ****ing vaccine you are able to get. There are billions of people on this earth… what “choice” do you think those in developing nation would make? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/onpoli?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#onpoli</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVIDVaccination?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >#COVIDVaccination</a></p>— Liam Coward 🏳️*🌈 (@liamxcoward) <a href="https://twitter.com/liamxcoward/status/1407011942003351557?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This needle lover was a particularly aggressive vaccine proponent. He was a former NFL player who if I recall headbutted the floor on the same date Coward did. He also didn't get much sympathy in replies.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ok so lets get these vaccine mandates and Vaccine passports up and running ASAP. We seeing children DIE daily from the unvaccinated selfishness. Pregnant women at risk too. PROTECT LIFE. MANDATE THE VACCINE. Jail anyone who refuses, to protect LIFE</p>— Uche Nwaneri The Observant Lineman♎ #Snydercut (@Chukwu77) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chukwu77/status/1433187602841092096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
But no one is suggesting ignoring anything. I think that it is important to listen to all perspectives and pattern's may emerge. You can't just go with consensus forever or nothing ever changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I had my vaccine probably before most on here and I think its helped get us out of Covid (though many still enjoy being imprisoned at home it seems!) but I think we have to have avenues for new evidence and discussion to emerge.
As I said, the reference to the Holocaust is just divisive and daft as are any references to nazi Germany, fascism etc, as popular as those kind of hyperbolic statements may be
The responses to this on twitter are horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
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Originally Posted by JamesWales
I don't know what you're talking about with holocaust to be perfectly honest. If that's been mentioned on the thread, then I've obviously skipped it.
I'm talking about the idea that viruses do not exist. I'm ok with going with the consensus on this one.
So your first sentence is wrong. Organ is talking about ignoring centuries of scientific progress. Maybe you're not, but he is.
The enlightened centrist is back.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Don't forget according to James gammon is racist, GB News isn't right wing, and nobody in the UK has ever wanted to stop all immigration. Your credibility on anything is gone.
He was on BBC news this morning :yikes: UNBELIEVABLEQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
https://twitter.com/draseemmalhotra/...Ub0lu-NxfcUHAA
I'm still intrigued by why China, India and Russia (there's other countries too) with their combined populations of three billion people (37.5% of the entire world's) have not dispensed a single mRNA vaccination for Covid, flu, or anything else, while Western majority white countries, especially, have pushed them on their people's like there's no tomorrow.
There has to be a reason, other than coincidence, for an anomaly of this scale.
But what is it?
Crikey, Covid cultists must have sat open-mouthed watching that. They'd fall off their chairs should they interview Dr Vernon Coleman.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
And defibrillator sales would rocket.
Has that frazzled brain of yours ever wondered why the Indians and Chinese are developing their own mRNA covid vaccines with the latter in a facility capable of producing 120m clot shots a year. Germ Warfare?Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Typical of you. You did not challenge: ... 'have not dispensed a single mRNA vaccination for Covid, flu, or anything else' but deflected, yet again.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Not going to comment on the safety of these vaccines but going to comment on the effectivenessQuote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Events over the last 10 days have now made me question if these vaccines make any difference at all too
Not going to delve too much into why i think this as i don't like commenting on medical stuff on here
Challenge and deflect from what, Morg?Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
You seem so surprised to make a broadly accurate statement that you are looking for a scooby snack as reward.
I am sort of taking from your focus on mRNA vaccines that you think the other types are fine and dandy so lets look at the hints and questions you pose about why India and China (lets take Russia out of this} have not dispensed a single mRNA shot.
Is it because it is a Western Majority White Man's Potion? That would be strange given that it is widely used in South Africa, Senegal, Tunisia, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Indonesia and elsewhere.
Is it because they think it is dangerous? Well they have been dispensing significant numbers in their trials of "own brand mRNA" as they both gear up for mass production and use as I previously stated.
So if it is neither of these, to turn your question on its head, what do you think the reason is, Morg?
I haven't heard there might be a shortage of Russian, Chinese or Indian scientists these past three years capable of knocking-up an mRNA concoction. Have you. :hehe:
I did ask a serious question. It does intrigue me why those countries have been so very slow off the blocks to produce one.
I'm sure you will agree with me, and it'll be a first, that the mRNA ones have proved to be very effective.
According to Dolores Cahill, their effectiveness will increase exponentially during the December 2023 to December 2025 timeframe.
https://health.economictimes.indiati...109?redirect=1Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
It's like asking why British scientists didn't knock up an mRNA concoction when they went down the Oxford Astra Zenica route. Yet you wonder why uber-nationalistic states like Russia, India and China wanted their own flagship vaccines.
My understanding from that very helpful Sky Australia snippet that I posted in full, which I am sure you watched, is that the development lifecycle of an mRNA vaccine to adapt to mutations is much shorter than other technologies. Reinforced by the article above.
Still if Delores Cahill says something different who are you to argue!
So, your stance is those countries have been unable to produce something as good as Pfizer and Moderna have manufactured and, for reasons unknown, they have chosen not to purchase their super, smashing and great products.
From what you wrote I suspect you will contend that for them to do the obvious would entail a loss of face.
https://bioprocessintl.com/bioproces...covid-vaccine/Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
It's a two way street Morg. In typical Chinese fashion they want the IPR. This stuff shouldn't be tricky Morg.
The bit you haven't been able to answer is why, if mRNA vaccines are the devil's brew, are the big countries that aren't currently using them scrambling to bring their own into production as quickly as possible? Is it ginseng in the Chinese one so it passes the Dolores/Malhotra sniff test or something?
I already posted this earlier in the thread!Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Wouldn't a simpler explanation be they are very aware those shots are full of poisonous crap, and that is why they will not foist it upon their citizens, and both Pfizer and Moderna will not supply it to any nation that will not provide them with full indemnity for the damage they cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Yeah that'll be it Morg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Still on the basis of this exchange you seem to have moved from a position of:
all Covid vaccines are poisonous crap to
all mRNA vaccines are poisonous crap to
only Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines are poisonous crap.
So baby steps eh!
Deflection again. It is indeed true those companies refuse to sell their product to nations who decline to give them a free pass. You already knew that though, didn't you? And the fewer people who are aware is right up your strasse.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
From what I've learnt from scientists who examined all vaccines pushed in Western white majority countries, whether they were tagged as mRNA or not, contained one specific element, graphene oxide. I.e. poisonous crap.
But your argument is those governments will not foist poisonous crap upon their citizens. So presumably the vaccines they have approved and are about to roll out both mRNA and non-mRNA derived are fit for use. Yet I sense you seem uncomfortable with your own logic.
Would you not agree that is where you seem to be at the moment and in the future we can concentrate on whether the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines are suitable for use because they are either:
a) the most effective in combatting Covid or
b) Poisonous crap?
Sorry missed the twaddle about graphine oxide. You just can't stop yourself can you!
It's good to see Mr Nice Guy hasnt changed mind. Hello DoucasQuote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
Of course what you have done there is selected three totally random comments from a list of hundreds and presented them as representative. And then you also manage to get those examples wrong too. Brilliant.
Gammon is a racist term. It will be considered it in due course, because it's an insult based on skin colour reserved for one race. Mark my words.
GB news has hosted loads of discussions I've not seen elsewhere. The people who think they know what it is about rarely if ever seem to watch it so why would you take their opinion as worthwhile?
Show me a mainstream British party that ever called for zero immigration.
Graphene oxide. I regret praising your spelling a few days back.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
I wonder if this campaign helped Dr Aseem Malhotra get a spot on a recent BBC TV programme.
I also wonder whether it will find it newsworthy enough to report what's being plastered on some of their own buildings. They won't be able to claim they're unaware.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">6 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BBC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BBC</a> Buildings got sticker bombed, ����<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ScumMedia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ScumM edia</a> Masked the Truth! <a href="https://t.co/qX8y0mxxW0">pic.twitter.com/qX8y0mxxW0</a></p>— Eddie Booth. Stop the illegal invasion, (@SirEdwardBooth) <a href="https://twitter.com/SirEdwardBooth/status/1612404144991571970?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I came across that video at a Yank forum today. Haven't seen the protests mentioned on any Brit ones in the six days since it was posted, nor mention of it at any news sites.
It's almost as if it's not just journalists at the BBC who would rather we didn't know.
Can anyone venture a guess why that is? If no-one can then I'll volunteer one, it damages the prevailing narrative.
This might help explain why Labour's Health spokesman nor any of his 200+ colleagues could be arsed to attend that Commons debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is why neither party can be trusted.PARLIAMENT MUST BE CLOSED DOWN <br><br>A new system needs to be introduced with none of these entitled demons running the show. <a href="https://t.co/Zo8XalOM5N">pic.twitter.com/Zo8XalOM5N</a></p>— Xx1796579NLD (@xx17965797NLD) <a href="https://twitter.com/xx17965797NLD/status/1615670067462545408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Irony alert:
"Could any government be so evil as to release a new type of mild flu to then exaggerate its danger inside its borders while simultaneously downplaying its danger for the rest of the world purely to kill those citizens it doesn't want live any longer?"
Organ Morgan, regarding China.
February 2020.
The good old days, when organ was still a believer in the existence of viruses!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
2020: The Chinese government are deliberately killing off their elderly population with the virus.
2023: The Chinese government are not using the mRNA vaccinations as they don't want to kill their population.
It's the well that never runs dry!
Flattered you're searching my posts from three years ago. :hehe: It must be time consuming.
Had you been prepared to invest considerably less of it looking into Pfizer's history, rather than waste it being told what to believe by your idiot box, I rather doubt you'd have been dull enough to fall for the same con trick no less than four times.
Can it be any worse? Yes, you were likely masked up each time you limply surrendered an arm.
You and your fellow weak-kneed, forelock-tugging vaxoholics deserve ridicule.
Er, I posed a hypothetical question. That's one based on supposition, not facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
It looks like I will have an awful long wait for you to digest and remark on that link which included those FoI replies from all over the world which all said we've been unable to locate SARS-CoV-2.
Oh I see, you were just supposing a completely different world to the one that you think you live in. One where viruses exist. Of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
It's gonna surprise you but I don't avidly read every post of yours. For example, I find the ones about sludge completely excruciating, so I avoid them.
If you desperately want me to respond to the foi stuff that you found, you'll have to link to the post.
Perhaps you missed it. I directed it at you in this thread 9 days ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...=1#post5381671
I can see why I missed it. I'll read one post of your nonsense at a time, but that was four in a row. I'm skipping past three of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
But now you brought it to my attention, I've looked at the link. This is about how foi requests work. You ask a department and they search their records. I actually gave you pretty much the same response I'm going to give here in this post:
https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...=1#post5381513
It's what the UK government says here. Departments don't hold that kind of information, so of course their records will come up blank
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rus-foi-21-140
Imagine that you put in over 100 FOI requests to governments everywhere asking for proof the world is round (to pick another of your batshit insane theories). They're also going to say they don't have records of that. Would that be proof that the world isn't round? To almost everyone intelligent enough to put on shoes, no it wouldn't. I expect you would interpret it differently.