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Aren't Southampton the Luton of the premier league though?
They are bottom quartile in salaries and transfers, so the bottom quartile is their mini league. If he can squeeze more out of his relatively inexpensive players then they live to fight relegation for another season.
When they are relegated, with the exception of Ward Prowse how many clubs will be raiding their squad? If i were those players I'd roll up my sleeves and start digging in because the land of milk and honey soon disappears
I think the problem for him is that the Southampton fans don't think he's up to the job of keeping them upQuote:
Originally Posted by llan bluebird
I think they have ideas above their station personally but I don't think he's the best choice
Quite.Quote:
Originally Posted by llan bluebird
But many footballers, especially Premier League footballers, are seemingly quite petulant about who they will actually try to play for, and I can’t see many of them responding to Jones if he is like that with them.
I've watched the whole interview again just to check if I missed the examples of him losing it and, just like the first time I saw it, I don't see any. As I said before, it seems some have a problem with someone being brutally honest in a press conference. It was disappointing to hear him come out with an "in the building", but, otherwise, having seen it twice now, I think it's a better interview than I did first time around.
To my mind, what he's saying is that he got noticed by Southampton because he played a particular way at Luton in his second spell there, but he's allowed himself to be blown off course regarding style of play and it seems to me that he's saying he did so because he felt the style he used at Luton was too unsophisticated for the Premier League, but now he's made up his mind to go back to use his Luton methods at Southampton.
As has been mentioned by others, it may be that there are those in the dressing room who think they are above playing in the manner Nathan Jones was brought to Southampton to implement and, usually, in the Premier League especially, it's the manager who loses out in a battle of wills with his players.
Don't forget many of these premier league players are in their early 20's and have been babied since youth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
It's a very different style of management I bet.
We can see what he is trying to do, it just doesn't seem to work when he changes clubs, it's like he rubs them up the wrong way and they refuse to play, the same happened at Stoke and he was back to Luton where there was le expectation and he could mold the lower standard players into a strong team unit.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/c29jx9e950jo
I mean Chris Sutton is a total dick but he’s not minced his words😂😂😂
A complete dickQuote:
Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton
But I am in agreement with you that Jones has shot the cat
It's disappointing, therefore, that anyone gives him publicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton
Sutton is the very worst kind of pundit (if he can be described as such). He's football's equivalent of a shock jock. Dreadful individual.
That prize goes to Jason CundyQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Agreed. I’m sure in the UK you see and hear more of him, but from the little I see he comes across as one odious human being.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I’m amazed that anyone listens to or reads anything churned out by the likes of Sutton, Cundy etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton
The footballing equivalent of Jeremy Clarkson - just attention seeking and completely and utterly irrelevant.
(Sutton personifies the dreadful standards to which the BBC has sunk - that fact that his faux argumentative and hectoring style gets any airtime is just pitiful. Another media stream that I have ceased using. )
I must be getting old….. :-/
I've been busy this week and it was only yesterday that I found out Jesse Marsch was sacked on Monday. I should imagine USMNT will be next. But I was quite surprised at that. Leeds think they are much better than they should in my opinion. Big club, but only by championship standards.
About to be available, absolutely shocking result at home against another team down the bottom playing 70 minutes with 10 men.
We now have a decent Manager...even if he goes down with us I would keep him in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Bluebird
I would not let Nathan Jones anwhere near the place..........
Same here MoQuote:
Originally Posted by Maurice Swan
From what I have seen in recent weeks, neither would I.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maurice Swan
He comes across as mental.
A manager fired by a team in Qatar, who marginally improved Forest yet had them scoring less goals, who has lost his last 9 Champiosnhip games with Forest and us, with a worse record with us than Hudson is somehow a decent manager?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maurice Swan
I assume you can point to exactly what he's done as a manager in football?
He's a bit highly strung, if he was italian then people would be all over it, not the same when you're from the Rhondda Valley :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
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Originally Posted by logic
Oh come on...as someone said (SLUDGE?) he has been left a bag of mushy peas and has to try an get something out of them......
I refer you to the WalesOnline commenters view of Sludge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maurice Swan
Hudson got more out of that bag of mushy peas.
Lots of Italians in the RhonddaQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
A link maybe ?
Sabri or Jones ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maurice Swan
Jones did very well at Luton. He deserves a shot at the top flight. Southampton's squad looks unremarkable. That's why he is struggling.
If the club had somehow managed to hire Jones at the start of this season, and given him the freedom that Morison had to build a squad , we would not be where we are now.
Jones tin tact - just announced
After losing to Wolves who played for more than an hour with 10 men, I'm not surprised he's gone.
Nathan Jones: Southampton sack manager after just three months in charge - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64616084
SACKED..
I think he was always doomed there.
Now available.
Seeing as we have a thread about Warnock.
Should we ask Sabri to step aside if Jones is willing to come. Obviously its a big if with our transfer embargo.
We are almost certainly looking for a new manager in a few months.
We need some sort of long term plan to negotiate what will be a difficult season next year wherever we are. We need a major rebuild. Should we go for Jones now. ( he could be at Swansea soon)
I thought it was a weird appointment - not compatible with their way of playing at all.
I'm tempted to say he'll be unavailable for a month or two as it'll take him that long to count his Southampton compo pay off.
I suspect he will bide his time until something far more appealing than the amateur sh&t show fronted by Mehmet Dalman and Ken Choo has to offer.
I'm tempted to say that he is a busted flush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Nah. Ian Holloway, now there's a real busted flush.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Buchanan
Possibly no coincidence that there are a lot of similarities between the two: passionate; enthusiastic; emotional and honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
The have a way of playing? They’re the Cardiff City of the Premiership, a dysfunctional club with an unremarkable but expensive squad, they’ve been on the slide for several seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw
5 year deal as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw
Can he play left back.
Can he pass a 5 yard ball?Quote:
Originally Posted by theclaw
Can he take a free kick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Gillis
Jones isn't going to walk back into a job, surely? He'll get a massive pay out from Southampton and probably wait until the summer to see what is out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts