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How was the derby experience Peter?
Crazy game, I thought St Pauli had the better chances and should have won. They seemed to get caught cold at the start of the 2nd half. The atmosphere, banners and pyrotechnics looked pretty full on. Great advert for the 2nd division.
I haven't seen any of it again, but I came away with the real sense that, as you say, St. Pauli were the better side, but seem to throw it away with a mad period after half time. When Jackson Irvine pulled it back to 4-3, the momentum was with them, and I thought they'd go on at least to get the draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime
I'd bought my ticket through St. Pauli but somehow ended up in some sort of mixed area right next to the SP area, which meant I got most of the away fan atmosphere without being in and amongst it. An area where both sets of fans could celebrate their respective goals without any aggro, which was pretty impressive. May have been different later on in the City!.
You need to try and make it next time, Harry!
I will, been a long time coming that one. Of course assuming HSV don't go up! I have to say that their defence looked very suspect. Sounds like an odd excuse but the delay in starting the 2nd half because of the smoke may have been a factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
I was in a neutral area for the FA cup final against Pompey, it made for a strange atmosphere. I'm amazed they could get away with it for that particular game.
Even at Hertha yesterday, there were a good few Bremen fans in the home area that I was in, celebrating their goals without being dicks about it. It seems to be different over there in that respect - surprising given what was at stake (in both games) and the amount of beer on offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime
I may be wrong, but I've always thought of Hertha as being the kind of place you probably could do that - one of the few grounds to not always sell out, capital city so no doubt fans from around the country living there, relatively starved of success. A little like the 'neutral' area alongside the away fans in Fulham, perhaps?
The kicker sonderheft is a fantastic read btw. It's a real shame nothing similar is produced here, as most countries have a similar pre season magazine
Sorry to bounce this, but St Pauli only go and win 3-0 away at top of the table Darmstadt! Could this still be on?!
What a performance. They will have to win the last 3 to put the pressure on but with 2 at home it's possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
Are Lazio the most hated club in Italian football for their nazi links ?
Hertha you’re definitely right about, there were quite a lot of Leverkusen fans in the home end when I went a few years back…. Also saw quite a few Bremen fans in the Hamburg end last season in Bremen colours with no visible agro, so think they must be more tolerant as a general rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I love St Pauli; I bought a tee shirt today.
Was it this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
€40 for a t-shirt!
https://www.fcsp-shop.com/en_DE/man/...black-sp012330
What an ethical club! 😍😍
...and here is James to pour his nasty little political scorn on a thread that wasn't looking for it. Cheers James!Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Nasty?! 🤣🤣 Have you been on this forum before?! 🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
What's 'nasty' about pointing it out?
Football fans are exploited, same at St Pauli. You can't justify €40 for a t-shirt can you?
Don't know about nasty, but small minded and pointless sounds about right. I'd assumed you were pissed when you posted it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I was celebrating my birthday yesterday, and it was me that was pissed. Nasty was the wrong word - but I agree with the rest of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
As Harry says, it looks unlikely but it is just about possible. Some strange results in that league!
No, completely sober. Whats wrong with pointing it out? Football fans are ripped off across the board. This is exactly the kind of area a club could genuinely do something. Their home shirts only run for one season too I note.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Brentford offer the way forward in this respect:
https://theathletic.com/3439901/2022...s-follow-suit/
Why can't we criticise this? People put the club on a pedestal but isn't this fair to point out? And I say that as someone who owns a St Pauli scarf but increasingly they seem to have a far less rebellious streak
Start a separate thread on it then. This thread was started six weeks ago and has been about the game of football until you tried to make it political.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Nothing, I suppose. It's just that posters like you and Sludge are forever hijacking threads to make some sort of political point. Sometimes people just want to discuss and enjoy things at face value.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
This is a fair point Bob. Although the politics has already been mentioned by othersQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
On this occasion, I agree and it's a fair point, my apologies. It annoys me when posts get overly political all the time and I haven't helped here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
Moving on, I think promotion is beyond their reach. HSV are four points clear and Darmstadt and Heidenheim can't be caught.
Shout out to Heidenheim btw, who gave never been in the bundesliga and were in the 5th tier until relatively recently.
Weren't Heidenheim Glatzel's old club? ooops, don't want to re-open that one! :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
It is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
What German football needs more than anything is for someone, anyone, other than Bayern to win the league
Agree completely. I'd even prefer if it was someone other than Bayern or Dortmund. Leipzig (much as I dislike them), Union and Freiburg have at least kept things a bit competitive this year, but Bayern winning every time makes it very dull. (Part of the reason that I was hoping Arsenal could stir things up here this year!).Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Yeah absolutely. RB Leipzig are my least favourite team of the lot. I've objected to Red Bill since Dietrich Matecschitz took over Salzburg and totally rebranded them. That said, I would rather they win than Bayern, at least for once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
Freiburg and Union having amazing seasons. But what amazes me is how very big clubs from very big cities (HSV, Stuttgart, Schalke, Hertha, Eintract, FC koln, Fortuna Dusseldorf etc) continue to underperform.
German football gets so much right but it does seem to have lost its way a little in the last decade, and a large part of that is Bayerns dominance..and fair play to them, they deserve it, but it weakens the entire league structure