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they really have, the QPR V Burnley game was out of the blue, then again your Draw V Burnley was also, Burnley were on course to beat your record points totalQuote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
But last day of the season, winner takes all ( though a draw will be enough for Hudds ) , its anyones
Cardiff winning away at Blackpool, Watford and Rotherham in April was quite unexpected as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
Especially as we scored eight goals (seven in the first half!) in winning them. Unfortunately, I’m with Pearcey on this, I reckon Huddersfield will get the point they need on Thursday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
True against some really good teams, Warnock has done a hell of a job there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
If Sheffield beat them, you will have the advantage of a week's rest they will be playing their third game in just over one week, it definitely makes a difference!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
Oh I agree but I don’t think it will come down to that game. Huddersfield will be safe by Thursday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
We need to avoid defeat at Burnley to get into a position where we did not have to rely on Reading's deducted six points keeping us up -if Huddersfield manage to overtake us in their last two games, people will look at the table for this season in ten years time and think Cardiff were lucky sods to stay up. The ifs, buts and maybes trying to defend us seen in this thread will count for nothing then, you'll just be down to the basics. I want us to pull off a surprise at Burnley so Reading's six point deduction will count for nothing as far as we are concerned, but, with Burnley aiming to get to 100 points, it has to be a real long shot.
I suspect the table in 10 years time will not indicate that reading had points deducted so people would need to dig into it to see how lucky we were but also hope they discover we have had 5 ( I think) apologies for the refs we have had and some of the critical decisions they got wrong and the fact that we were under a transfer embargo as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
The point is all clubs have ifs and buts for where they finish - some in their control and some not but at the end of the day Reading didn't play fair and were penalised accordingly so that for me makes it right as to where we finish
Like you I hope we win at Burnley not so much about where we finish as that now is irrelevant for me now we are safe but because it will be a good note to finish the season on and also because I will be there to witness it ( and I was there when we played them in the prem and got done by some dodgy reffing then as well 😂😂)
Yes but if Sala hadn't taken that flight we may have still been in the Premier League!Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Without us missing shots, having such a low shot "completion" percentage, we'd be champions. Possibly.
It's preferable for reading to stay up as its almost a local Derby......although the days of us taking 4000 fans there is over due to restrictions
But Huddersfield are generally a decent bunch and hate Leeds so its a close 🤔
Without their transfer embargo and business plan next season I'd expect Reading to be the stronger of the two, so in one sense it might be better for us if they go down.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
However, if Warnock goes down I think that could be good for us for other reasons
If we want to stay up its vital lamouchi gets rid of the also rans and we keep those who are capableQuote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
We can't have a mass cull
I don't think there will be much of an exodus at all, we will find it pretty difficult to bring players in under the transfer fee ban againQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Can’t be bothered to read this thread. Apologies if the following have already been mentioned but look at the points lost/ thrown away through:
Missed penalties- a decent taker of penalties should successfully convert at least 80% I reckon.
Terrible referees e.g. the muppet who allowed Madine to equalise for Blackpool when everyone in the ground knew he should have been sent off before scoring. We always seem to have unfair refs at our home games.
The daft sending off of Callum Robinson at Swansea.
The crazy last moment capitulation vs Swansea at home.
Etc.
Without the above we would comfortably been clear of relegation weeks ago.
Add to that Wigan's 97th minute equaliser and Robinsons goal against Coventry which was chalked off only for the ref to later apologise for his mistake.....gee thanks:frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanmore Bluebird
Sorry, couldn’t be bothered to read any of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanmore Bluebird
Yep and this is a good point. You only just went down and a record signing striker may have made all the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Maybe, but the guy seems to post ambiguous stuff so who knows when he is intending to make a meaningful post or when he is just on a fishing expedition, laughing at the people he thinks he has caught in his "net"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
Jeez, we should have won the league ya knowQuote:
Originally Posted by islandblue
Basically without the points deduction for reading we'd now be in the bottom 3 with one game left.
Which is Burnley away.....
What a lucky escape.
Without wishing to be disrespectful, what a load of tosh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Each and every one of the teams around us knew exactly what they had to do to survive once Reading were deducted points and most of them included us did so. Those that didn't, included Reading have fallen by the wayside. Nothing lucky about it. We were safe with two games to go.
OK which of the teams above us do you think would now be below us if reading hadn't been deducted points?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
That’s a mighty fine question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
For goodness sake - why all the continual wailing, wringing of hands and pontification ? The season is almost over and we are safe from relegation. Reading deserved the points deduction. They were told 6 months ago that if they didn't get their house in order, they would be deducted more points and ignored the warnings. Do you really think that the fans of Huddersfield, Rotherham, QPR and Stoke give a rats arse about where they might have finished if Reading had the 6 points back ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
I think you're missing the point. Your original statement was that we've had a lucky escape. I don't think there is anything lucky about it. All the teams around us knew what they had to do. QPR got some wins when it looked like they were in freefall, we won 3 of our last 4 away games, Huddersfield have put together an amazing sequence of results, Rotherham beat Middlesbrough after it looked like our win at their place might send them down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
There are too many imponderables to be sure where any of us may have finished without Reading's points deduction. For instance Huddersfield may have felt cut adrift and lost hope that they could reel in the rest and been unable to produce the results they have. Similarly Middlesbrough having nothing to play for once a play off place had been achieved may have gone into their game with Rotherham with little or no motivation. All ifs, buts and maybes. What is certain is that we survived with two games to spare.
Lucky escape no doubt, we will just have to hope that Lamouchi really does have contacts in the European Leagues and can find some gems and that Tan can use his other clubs for the odd legal work around for the embargo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
I've heard it mentioned a couple of times that we could look to Europe for players, but wouldn't we struggle to get work permits post-Brexit? Jamilu Collins and Sory Kaba are both internationals, and even then Collins only just got over the line for a work permit. I couldn't see us being able to sign anyone like Loic Damour again, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue