2023/4 Season Ticket Sales

I think the problem with the way things are is that we are losing support

And it's difficult to get that back

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I think the problem with the way things are is that we are losing support

And it's difficult to get that back

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I dont think so. Its not the 80s. Football is a safe place for entertainment a day out.

I dont blame anyone not spending their money on the club after a weeks work to watch what we currently have on show. But success a bit of ambition and entertainment and fans will be back.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

I dont think so. Its not the 80s. Football is a safe place for entertainment a day out.

I dont blame anyone not spending their money on the club after a weeks work to watch what we currently have on show. But success a bit of ambition and entertainment and fans will be back.

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There are plenty of alternative entertainments these days

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

There are plenty of alternative entertainments these days

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Weve had 20 plus thousand crowds last season watching utter garbage.

Despite alternative arrangements.

No reason why crowds wont come back if we have a few shit years.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

He was indeed. But then I’m guessing his badge has never been bastardised by a Malaysian megalomaniac.

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It is still our club badge. It is blue and white, says Cardiff City FC and has a bluebird on it. There is also a realistic depiction of a dragon on it. Only the most churlish, pedantic and childish of people would claim that it has been ‘bastardised’. The other bit is borderline racist and doesn't deserve comment.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I think the problem with the way things are is that we are losing support

And it's difficult to get that back

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You just wont give this up will you, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary. Average gates were up last season with five gates well over 20000 in the run in and we have already sold more season tickets than at the same stage last season. You have no faith in your own teams support.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

It is still our club badge. It is blue and white, says Cardiff City FC and has a bluebird on it.

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I think you’re missing the point here (and no surprise there). Have you forgotten Vinny’s red dragon beer mat badge already? Considering you’re such a fan of his, I’d be amazed if you have.

As regards the current badge, I’ll consider it ‘ours’ again when the Malaysian ragworm is removed and consigned to the dustbin of history.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

It is still our club badge. It is blue and white, says Cardiff City FC and has a bluebird on it. There is also a realistic depiction of a dragon on it. Only the most churlish, pedantic and childish of people would claim that it has been ‘bastardised’. The other bit is borderline racist and doesn't deserve comment.

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The dragon is shite

I don't know any cardiff fans who think it's good

Apart from you

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Originally Posted by dml1954

You just wont give this up will you, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary. Average gates were up last season with five gates well over 20000 in the run in and we have already sold more season tickets than at the same stage last season. You have no faith in your own teams support.

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I am telling you what everybody knows

That with all this messing about the club are going to lose a lot of fans in terms of season ticket sales

It's no more complicated than that

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Originally Posted by dml1954

It is still our club badge. It is blue and white, says Cardiff City FC and has a bluebird on it. There is also a realistic depiction of a dragon on it. Only the most churlish, pedantic and childish of people would claim that it has been ‘bastardised’. The other bit is borderline racist and doesn't deserve comment.

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You are so ****ing pathetic, it's shameful.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

You are so ****ing pathetic, it's shameful.

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At least I go to games and don't spend all my time slagging off everything to do with the club. What does that make you ? I think you should read the Chesterfield fans interview as well. It might help you.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

The dragon is shite

I don't know any cardiff fans who think it's good

Apart from you

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I would think it is highly unlikely that you know every Cardiff City fan. Plus a red dragon is a red dragon whether it is Malaysian or Welsh. We are Cardiff City, not Wales in disguise and compete in the English league system. Our team and fan base are made up of many nationality's, including English, much as that might be distasteful to you. Plus our owner is currently Malaysian and has pumped hundreds of millions of pounds into the Club, so putting a Malaysian dragon on the badge to acknowledge his involvement is a miniscule price to pay. Why don't you buy the club off him and then you can get rid of the dragon and put a naked woman on it or something else fitting.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

You are so ****ing pathetic, it's shameful.

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Has to be a wind up

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Originally Posted by dml1954

I would think it is highly unlikely that you know every Cardiff City fan. Plus a red dragon is a red dragon whether it is Malaysian or Welsh. We are Cardiff City, not Wales in disguise and compete in the English league system. Our team and fan base are made up of many nationality's, including English, much as that might be distasteful to you. Plus our owner is currently Malaysian and has pumped hundreds of millions of pounds into the Club, so putting a Malaysian dragon on the badge to acknowledge his involvement is a miniscule price to pay. Why don't you buy the club off him and then you can get rid of the dragon and put a naked woman on it or something else fitting.

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So is it a Malaysian dragon or a realistic* dragon?

The dragon and the red band are Tan’s own stamp on the badge. The red is Tan being too petty to let the rebrand die off and the Malaysian dragon has zero relevance to the club bar the owner being Malaysian. I don’t dislike the badge but despite it being in use for close to a decade now I still don’t fully embrace it. The old badge with the daff, dragon and bluebird is THE Cardiff City badge in my mind. That’s not me being stubborn, that’s just how I feel subconsciously.

Sure it’s blue and says Cardiff City, but by your own admission it’s a badge for Vincent Tan.

*as realistic as a mythical creature can be.

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Originally Posted by Canton Kev

*as realistic as a mythical creature can be.

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This is the whole point though. It is mythical. No one knows what they look like and yet people get upset that it isn't the correct dragon.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

This is the whole point though. It is mythical. No one knows what they look like and yet people get upset that it isn't the correct dragon.

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That's quite funny actually

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Originally Posted by dml1954

This is the whole point though. It is mythical. No one knows what they look like and yet people get upset that it isn't the correct dragon.

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Do you understand the meaning of "realistic"?

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Originally Posted by dml1954

This is the whole point though. It is mythical. No one knows what they look like and yet people get upset that it isn't the correct dragon.

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The badge and red shirt debacle has been discussed to death.

The club need to do some serious PR ( on a Wrexham scale) to lift the suggested negative vibes , and if they do I’m sure season ticket sales will be around the same as last year. With Everton Leeds or Leicester coming down , it’s something to look forward to. Most genuine City fans will buy regardless, unless of course finances dictate.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

This is the whole point though. It is mythical. No one knows what they look like and yet people get upset that it isn't the correct dragon.

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That is not the whole point.

Most Cardiff fans know what the Welsh dragon looks like. It is an emblem that appears everywhere around us, and hasn't changed too much through the history of its' use as a Welsh emblem. The early ones were on their hind legs, but still the shape was similar.

Many Cardiff fans know what a Chinese dragon looks like. Again it is an emblem that appears across UK cities and on TV.

It is not about 'what they look like'. They don't look like anything. They don't exist. The emblems exist and are recognisable.

There is a history of using a small Welsh dragon on the Cardiff badge. Personally I don't much like the traditional badge and would prefer something simpler and cleaner - actually I would prefer a bluebird emblem with Cardiff City and 1899 on it in san serif font - no fiddly bits and no clutter. But there is at least a heritage argument for a small Welsh dragon. The Chinese dragon is inappropriate, and a stain at the bottom of the badge. It is a symbol of the owner's ego and nothing more.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

This is the whole point though. It is mythical. No one knows what they look like and yet people get upset that it isn't the correct dragon.

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Do you think the annoyance arises because there actually is a “correct dragon” in the eyes of Cardiff City fans?

For example, the dragon of Wales? The dragon which has previously been on the badge, is flown from flags within the stadium, and is representative of the country Cardiff is the capital city of.

If we changed the badge to a bluebird standing up, like Bristol City or Norwich’s badges, would you be equally confused if people complained it wasn’t the “correct bluebird”?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

That is not the whole point.

Most Cardiff fans know what the Welsh dragon looks like. It is an emblem that appears everywhere around us, and hasn't changed too much through the history of its' use as a Welsh emblem. The early ones were on their hind legs, but still the shape was similar.

Many Cardiff fans know what a Chinese dragon looks like. Again it is an emblem that appears across UK cities and on TV.

It is not about 'what they look like'. They don't look like anything. They don't exist. The emblems exist and are recognisable.

There is a history of using a small Welsh dragon on the Cardiff badge. Personally I don't much like the traditional badge and would prefer something simpler and cleaner - actually I would prefer a bluebird emblem with Cardiff City and 1899 on it in san serif font - no fiddly bits and no clutter. But there is at least a heritage argument for a small Welsh dragon. The Chinese dragon is inappropriate, and a stain at the bottom of the badge. It is a symbol of the owner's ego and nothing more.

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You are absolutely correct but it’s wasted on dml who is just trying to wind people up by making very churlish - and childish points

The Chinese depiction of the dragon on our badge is Mr Tan’s point of saying it is my club, not yours

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Originally Posted by jon1959

That is not the whole point.

Most Cardiff fans know what the Welsh dragon looks like. It is an emblem that appears everywhere around us, and hasn't changed too much through the history of its' use as a Welsh emblem. The early ones were on their hind legs, but still the shape was similar.

Many Cardiff fans know what a Chinese dragon looks like. Again it is an emblem that appears across UK cities and on TV.

It is not about 'what they look like'. They don't look like anything. They don't exist. The emblems exist and are recognisable.

There is a history of using a small Welsh dragon on the Cardiff badge. Personally I don't much like the traditional badge and would prefer something simpler and cleaner - actually I would prefer a bluebird emblem with Cardiff City and 1899 on it in san serif font - no fiddly bits and no clutter. But there is at least a heritage argument for a small Welsh dragon. The Chinese dragon is inappropriate, and a stain at the bottom of the badge. It is a symbol of the owner's ego and nothing more.

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Fair play this thread is nuts.

DML is literally the only person I've ever seen suggest these points about the dragon. Utter madness.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

I would think it is highly unlikely that you know every Cardiff City fan. Plus a red dragon is a red dragon whether it is Malaysian or Welsh. We are Cardiff City, not Wales in disguise and compete in the English league system. Our team and fan base are made up of many nationality's, including English, much as that might be distasteful to you. Plus our owner is currently Malaysian and has pumped hundreds of millions of pounds into the Club, so putting a Malaysian dragon on the badge to acknowledge his involvement is a miniscule price to pay. Why don't you buy the club off him and then you can get rid of the dragon and put a naked woman on it or something else fitting.

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I would prefer a pair of tits on there than that pathetic little worm

Get back to the bluebird, dragon and daffodil

When badges became a selling point that was our first decent one and stayed with us for 20 years until Sam changed it into a disaster that looked more like a Leeds badge

You are completely off your head

The Chinese dragon replacing the Welsh dragon on our badge is symbolic of the embarrassing farce that constitutes Tan’s ownership of our club.

The man has placed us hundreds of millions in debt while taking us from the Premier League to the third worst team in the Championship in no time at all.

We have a few deluded fools hanging on in the hope Tan delivers better times ahead. How low do we need to sink before these people wake up and realise our club is heading towards disaster?

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Originally Posted by Delbert

The Chinese dragon replacing the Welsh dragon on our badge is symbolic of the embarrassing farce that constitutes Tan’s ownership of our club.

The man has placed us hundreds of millions in debt while taking us from the Premier League to the third worst team in the Championship in no time at all.

We have a few deluded fools hanging on in the hope Tan delivers better times ahead. How low do we need to sink before these people wake up and realise our club is heading towards disaster?

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The problem is what is the alternative

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Originally Posted by Delbert

The Chinese dragon replacing the Welsh dragon on our badge is symbolic of the embarrassing farce that constitutes Tan’s ownership of our club.

The man has placed us hundreds of millions in debt while taking us from the Premier League to the third worst team in the Championship in no time at all.

We have a few deluded fools hanging on in the hope Tan delivers better times ahead. How low do we need to sink before these people wake up and realise our club is heading towards disaster?

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Are we hundreds of millions in debt? I knew it was bad but didnt realise it was that bad.

Unless someone is willing to buy the club we are stuck with Tan.

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Originally Posted by Delbert

The Chinese dragon replacing the Welsh dragon on our badge is symbolic of the embarrassing farce that constitutes Tan’s ownership of our club.

The man has placed us hundreds of millions in debt while taking us from the Premier League to the third worst team in the Championship in no time at all.

We have a few deluded fools hanging on in the hope Tan delivers better times ahead. How low do we need to sink before these people wake up and realise our club is heading towards disaster?

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Such a stupid post.

Where were we when he took over? Don’t think we were in the Prem? More like struggling to stay afloat with multiple people trying to liquidate us.

While I would love new ownership looking to move us forward I that post is just nonsense.

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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo

Such a stupid post. Where were we when he took over?

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City had just finished 4th in the Championship when Tan took control.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

City had just finished 4th in the Championship when Tan took control.

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And how many companies were taking us to court to try and liquidate us?

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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo

And how many companies were taking us to court to try and liquidate us?

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I don't know. Do you?

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Originally Posted by dml1954

I would think it is highly unlikely that you know every Cardiff City fan. Plus a red dragon is a red dragon whether it is Malaysian or Welsh. We are Cardiff City, not Wales in disguise and compete in the English league system. Our team and fan base are made up of many nationality's, including English, much as that might be distasteful to you. Plus our owner is currently Malaysian and has pumped hundreds of millions of pounds into the Club, so putting a Malaysian dragon on the badge to acknowledge his involvement is a miniscule price to pay. Why don't you buy the club off him and then you can get rid of the dragon and put a naked woman on it or something else fitting.

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Chinese dragons don't have wings, Welsh dragon's do.

It's not a Welsh dragon.

Have season ticket sales been suspended? I can’t see option to purchase this morning!

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Originally Posted by cityhammer

Have season ticket sales been suspended? I can’t see option to purchase this morning!

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The keep your seat window ended at midnight last night. I'm not sure when the next window opens.

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Originally Posted by cityhammer

Have season ticket sales been suspended? I can’t see option to purchase this morning!

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DML will tell you we’ve sold out all 33k

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

The keep your seat window ended at midnight last night. I'm not sure when the next window opens.

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Next week I think. This week is for people to.kove seats.

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Originally Posted by cityhammer

Have season ticket sales been suspended? I can’t see option to purchase this morning!

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Yes. Ticket sales are now suspended to allow people to swap to different seats. Back on sale next Tuesday. Early Bird prices end on 9th June.

I see Bradford have sold nearly 15,000 again , amazing really , although I think kids are free in certain areas

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

The keep your seat window ended at midnight last night. I'm not sure when the next window opens.

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Ryanair are holding a keep your window seat offer.

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Originally Posted by RichardM

Next week I think. This week is for people to.kove seats.

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Thats what I'm trying to do! But doesn't seem to be an option!

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Do you have a link to that?

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Season ticket sales are currently around 10,200 , more than at the same stage last year. Corky as stated this. Do you still require a link ?