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			What's the estimated figure of how much that family cost us compared to how much tourism revenue they generate ? - as long as they break even or earn the UK some money - I dont mind that much. What gets my goat are people Duke and Duchess or x and their self entitled elitist attitude - they need to be given the 'French' treatment
			
		
	 
 they don't anywhere near break even, the tourism arguments are completely bogus
	 
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		It's not a big deal in the scheme of things. The M4 relief road cost more and we have some papers to show for it.
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			It's not a big deal in the scheme of things. The M4 relief road cost more and we have some papers to show for it.
Can we do away with Welsh labour too?
			
		
	 
 1st thing get the Tories out.
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			It's not a big deal in the scheme of things. The M4 relief road cost more and we have some papers to show for it.
Can we do away with Welsh labour too?
			
		
	 
 Yes those things are exactly the same. You must be absolutely fuming at the £1.5 trillion debt the tories have added to the debt then.
It's £100 million a year basically on top of all the land they've stolen from the public.
This doesn't take into account other costs like policing etc either.
	 
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			Yes those things are exactly the same. You must be absolutely fuming at the £1.5 trillion debt the tories have added to the debt then.
It's £100 million a year basically on top of all the land they've stolen from the public.
This doesn't take into account other costs like policing etc either.
			
		
	 
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			they don't anywhere near break even, the tourism arguments are completely bogus
			
		
	 
 I think the fact that the UK has this living history that stretches back centuries and is still alive today does help tourism and drive general interest in the country, which I am always surprised at when I go abroad.
There are valid arguments on both sides but I don't see how becoming a republic would help in raising awareness of the country or in things like tourism
	 
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			Reads like a page from the Socialist Workers Party manifesto. You just don't get it do you ?  Some of the most fervent supporters of the Royal Family and all the history they bring to this country are the ordinary working class people. In difficult times especially the monarchy's presence and all the history the UK has brings comfort and solidity to people who might be struggling and gives them pride in their country. Go and live somewhere like Albania if you don't like it here.
			
		
	 
 Your message has an odd set of points and some even odder conclusions. I spent most of my working life travelling globally for a large US multinational.  Contrary to belief of many the UK has lost position in the world ranks from a business, economic, technical standpoint amongst many. My post wasn't political so don't know where you get that from?
	 
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			I think the fact that the UK has this living history that stretches back centuries and is still alive today does help tourism and drive general interest in the country, which I am always surprised at when I go abroad.
There are valid arguments on both sides but I don't see how becoming a republic would help in raising awareness of the country or in things like tourism
			
		
	 
 Public beheadings (or guillotining) would maybe pack the punters in:hehe:
	 
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			they don't anywhere near break even, the tourism arguments are completely bogus
			
		
	 
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			1st thing get the Tories out.
Without that cant think about Plaid in my area.
			
		
	 
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		<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who wore it better? <a href="https://t.co/pQxXhz3VFn">pic.twitter.com/pQxXhz3VFn</a></p>— No Context Brits (@NoContextBrits) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoContextBrits/status/1654811601407442944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
	 
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		There's no bread ? Let them eat cake 
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth 
Wash the salt into the earth 
Off with their heads !
	 
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			<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who wore it better? <a href="https://t.co/pQxXhz3VFn">pic.twitter.com/pQxXhz3VFn</a></p>— No Context Brits (@NoContextBrits) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoContextBrits/status/1654811601407442944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
			
		
	 
 Its feckin laughable. 
To be fair even Charlie looks embarrassed to be part of this freak show.
At least it gives comfort to Tory weirdos.🤣
	 
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		Just watched the highlights on the news - thousands of people really having fun and enjoying themselves not like half the miserable bastards on here.
	 
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			Its feckin laughable. 
To be fair even Charlie looks embarrassed to be part of this freak show.
At least it gives comfort to Tory weirdos.🤣
			
		
	 
 They will soon be slagging Charlie off 
These feckwits will be divided into idiots who think he's great and idiots who think he's the anti christ 
They know nothing , they havnt met him but they KNOW he's great or he's a naughty boy 
All based on the crap from the media 
They did it for Diana , she's the queen of hearts or she's a slapper , Harry and meghan , the ginger haired one with the big teeth who was married to Prince Randy 
The Royal commentators are all clowns feeding all this crap to the idiots who suck it up
	 
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			Just watched the highlights on the news - thousands of people really having fun and enjoying themselves not like half the miserable bastards on here.
			
		
	 
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			Lots of kids with grumpy faces thinking wtf am I doing  here in this rain , bored
			
		
	 
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			I don’t think so , most kids love this kind of thing probably because they are not bitter and twisted at the age they are
			
		
	 
 Most kids love this kind of thing.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Really??
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			I take it you’re taking Monday off work though
			
		
	 
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			what's your point?
			
		
	 
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			I don’t think so , most kids love this kind of thing probably because they are not bitter and twisted at the age they are
			
		
	 
 Kids hate standing around 
It's boring 
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			Most kids love this kind of thing.����������������
Really??
Your not mixing kids up with old Tory farts are you.
			
		
	 
  I think what my kid does in his spare time has **** all to do you does  it ?
	 
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SLUDGE FACTORY
				
			 
			Kids hate standing around 
It's boring 
But not for tories
			
		
	 
 I think a few street parties ,nibbles and bunting is ideal for a youngster on a bank holiday weekend,especially when they have may have done a project in school  all week on the King.
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			You’re not that dull are you ****ing hell
			
		
	 
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			I think what my kid does in his spare time has **** all to do you does  it ?
			
		
	 
 No. But seeing as how I havent said it does I dont know what the **** your on about.
	 
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		I loved 1969 Charles becoming POW - all the village come together - trifles cakes pop I loved it.🏴🏴
	 
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			I think what my kid does in his spare time has **** all to do you does  it ?
			
		
	 
 Isn't one of the arguments in favour of royalty is that they maintain and inspire particular standards?  I assume this doesn't include intelligence.  No-one mentioned your kids.  Jeez, events like this bring out the lunacy.
	 
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		We could always get rid and end up like France or America with Presidents like Macron or Trump(or Biden), cos they're loved by the masses aren't they?
	 
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			No. But seeing as how I havent said it does I dont know what the **** your on about.
			
		
	 
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			We could always get rid and end up like France or America with Presidents like Macron or Trump(or Biden), cos they're loved by the masses aren't they?
			
		
	 
 Were on our 3rd useless tw@t since the last election and another deputy binned. Hardly an argument to keep the Royals.
	 
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			Apologies I miss read your post
			
		
	 
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			We could always get rid and end up like France or America with Presidents like Macron or Trump(or Biden), cos they're loved by the masses aren't they?
			
		
	 
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			We could always get rid and end up like France or America with Presidents like Macron or Trump(or Biden), cos they're loved by the masses aren't they?
			
		
	 
 We don't have to have the same set-up.  It could be like Germany or Ireland or something else entirely.
	 
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			We don't have to have the same set-up.  It could be like Germany or Ireland or something else entirely.
			
		
	 
 Ireland or Switzerland seem to have the best system, a ceremonial role with now power
	 
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			It's not a big deal in the scheme of things. The M4 relief road cost more and we have some papers to show for it.
Can we do away with Welsh labour too?
			
		
	 
 You can vote them out 
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			You can vote them out 
We are stuck with the royals
			
		
	 
 They don't have any legislative power whatsoever though Sludge. It's purely a symbolic head of state. I take your point on the principle nonetheless.
Maybe a party should stand on committing to a referendum? That would solve it once and for all and I am sure you would all definitely accept the result and not spend five years moaning about it!
	 
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			They don't have any legislative power whatsoever though Sludge. It's purely a symbolic head of state. I take your point on the principle nonetheless.
Maybe a party should stand on committing to a referendum? That would solve it once and for all and you would all definitely accept the result!
			
		
	 
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			John Cleese, Ronnie Barker & Ronnie Corbett springs to mind reading this post. ‘I Know My Place’.
			
		
	 
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			They don't have any legislative power whatsoever though Sludge. It's purely a symbolic head of state. I take your point on the principle nonetheless.
			
		
	 
 By convention that is right - but as many Tony Benn road shows explained, it is not the whole story. 
They still have a very powerful residual role and no primary legislation can be enacted without the assent of the sovereign. The monarchy still has a lot of power that they choose not to exercise (or test). 
For me the ceremonial role is bad enough - enshrining inherited wealth and power, popular subservience, and archaic and expensive ritual - where none of that should be present in a modern, self-confident, democracy.
	 
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		Absolutey I'll second that. 
What brought a tear to my eye today were our boys and girls, men and women, of the armed forces and voluntary services. What a spectacle, these are the true representatives of what's good in British Society.
So proud of these young ones and we can all sleep well at night, safe in the knowledge that they will be there to protect us if they were ever needed and not the likes of the "fat thumb brigade" on here and similar sites.