Proud To Be British. 300 Million Watching. Its Ours And Its The Best

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

You grew up with **** all, said as much plenty of times. Couldn't afford to heat your house, although luckily for you (and Me) there was social housing (A Socialist concept) Never perfect but saved the likes of you and me from slum landlords, a thing that we're going back to today. If it wasn't for socialism, you'd have probably been thieving turnips from farmers fields to survive, and Charlies ancestors would have had no problem shooting you or setting the dogs on you. Know your History.

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my extended family has built and run social housing for over 70yrs they are in no way 'socialists' and to the best of my knowledge have never shot anyone for stealing turnips,

Yep, makes you feel proud doesn’t it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65515769

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Yep, makes you feel proud doesn’t it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65515769

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What’s your thoughts on this

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2880KY

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

What’s your thoughts on this

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2880KY

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Mr one subject poster strikes again! I think they were/are nutters. but didn't have a problem with them protesting.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Mr one subject poster strikes again! I think they were/are nutters. but didn't have a problem with them protesting.

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Not at all and clearly they were all fine after two weeks :hehe:

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Not at all and clearly they were all fine after two weeks :hehe:

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:shrug:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Yep, makes you feel proud doesn’t it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65515769

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It makes any decent person weep to see just how badly people who do not share establishment views are treated in this country.

Watched it for a good few hours intrigued by the regalia and what steps are taken to apply the sucession .

Loved it the crowning moment is quite something, Charles looked terrified .

All through it I thought what if he wanted the toilet as he is of that age where down below has a mind of its own and is effected ny stress , lol .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

All through it I thought what if he wanted the toilet as he is of that age where down below has a mind of its own and is effected ny stress , lol .

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Yeah but he was sitting on the throne, so to speak. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Fatty Foggon

Yeah but he was sitting on the throne, so to speak. :hehe:

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No doubt he had Sir Peregrine Crapper the Turd, the Royal Arselicker, underneath in case of emergency.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

That's up to voters to decide, but off the top of my head in the last few years;

2 - record increase in NHS spending

3 - highest rise in the minimum wage by some distance

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You and the Tories keep using the misdirection of reporting record increases on spending on areas as the NHS, minimum wage or any other government department as evidence that the they are improving services for the public. This is a total fallacy.

Here is an example of how it works. If a government department has a budget of £4 billion and it is increased by £50 million. its budget is then £4.05 billion, which is correctly reported as record spending. This would be a 1.25% increase in spending, but with inflation running at 9% it represents a 7.75% reduction in spending power. In other words a cut in services.

If spending is only increased by £1 it would still be technically record funding.

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Originally Posted by 79blue

You and the Tories keep using the misdirection of reporting record increases on spending on areas as the NHS, minimum wage or any other government department as evidence that the they are improving services for the public. This is a total fallacy.

Here is an example of how it works. If a government department has a budget of £4 billion and it is increased by £50 million. its budget is then £4.05 billion, which is correctly reported as record spending. This would be a 1.25% increase in spending, but with inflation running at 9% it represents a 7.75% reduction in spending power. In other words a cut in services.

If spending is only increased by £1 it would still be technically record funding.

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that also doesn't account for increasing population and ageing population , if you consider those then the investment in the NHS has completely flatlined under the Tories.

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Being proud to come from any country is rather meaningless. I am not personally responsible for the good and bad that I perceive to present in the country in which I live and neither should I.
The more you travel the more you realise that flags, patriotism, perceived cultural identity and political leaders do not define all the souls that live in a particular place in the world or all those who live under particular political regimes.
End of sermon,
TBG,
Tashkent,
Uzbekistan.

P. S. Met a Russian refugee from Putin's draft today.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

You grew up with **** all, said as much plenty of times. Couldn't afford to heat your house, although luckily for you (and Me) there was social housing (A Socialist concept) Never perfect but saved the likes of you and me from slum landlords, a thing that we're going back to today. If it wasn't for socialism, you'd have probably been thieving turnips from farmers fields to survive, and Charlies ancestors would have had no problem shooting you or setting the dogs on you. Know your History.

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Since you know your history then Tuerto

When did social housing first start in the UK?

And which socialist started it?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Being proud to come from any country is rather meaningless. I am not personally responsible for the good and bad that I perceive to present in the country in which I live and neither should I.
The more you travel the more you realise that flags, patriotism, perceived cultural identity and political leaders do not define all the souls that live in a particular place in the world or all those who live under particular political regimes.
End of sermon,
TBG,
Tashkent,
Uzbekistan.

P. S. Met a Russian refugee from Putin's draft today.

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Have you thought of Youtube Vlogging your trips ( Like Bald and Bankrupt or backpacker ben does ) they both make tidy sums out of it now

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Originally Posted by blue matt

Have you thought of Youtube Vlogging your trips ( Like Bald and Bankrupt or backpacker ben does ) they both make tidy sums out of it now

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Bald and Bankrupt/Ben Rich is a piece of dirt.
I really enjoyed his videos and watched most of them.

However….

https://youtu.be/4XDf2lrMIoU

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Originally Posted by blue matt

Have you thought of Youtube Vlogging your trips ( Like Bald and Bankrupt or backpacker ben does ) they both make tidy sums out of it now

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I think once you do things to entertain others and monetise your experiences it becomes a more artificial experience. My friends on Facebook who are interested in travel have an idea of what I get up to, but thanks.
Yesterday was the first time since I landed early in the week that I knowingly came across another tourist from outside this area. Very little English is spoken in these parts and it's a linguistic challenge all round.
The border post between Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan was absolutely heaving with hundreds of vehicles (and not moving) and throngs of people heaving to go through the laborious process of passport control and which often involves walking hundreds of yards through what seem like decrepit cages through no man's land and being checked numerous times by the officials of whichever two countries are involved.
However, the border between Kyrgystan and Tajikistan is closed due to ongoing tensions after artillery battles saw over 55 people die and thousands displaced last year. And there are a number of enclaves and exclaves in these parts, which complicates things.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

It makes any decent person weep to see just how badly people who do not share establishment views are treated in this country.

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The fact that the policing of Saturday’s event has attracted so little comment on here (I’ve seen isolated mentions of it in other rhreads) suggests that there is general support for it on here. How anyone can feel like that is beyond me. We should be a strong and confident enough country to accept peaceful protest, but, instead, the banana republic like Government we have rushes through legislation that outlaws it, what are they scared of or is it just the latest stage in their pathetic culture wars? The fact that 30p Lee is saying that people with Republican views should emigrate suggests it’s the latter.

Smiling, laughing and trashing the place.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Utterly disgusting mess, left by plastic patriots. <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/EPzwF9uyTW">pic.twitter.com/EPzwF9uyTW</a></p>&mdash; Simon Gosden. Esq. #fbpe 3.5% 🇪🇺🐟🇬🇧🏴*☠️🦠💙 (@g_gosden) <a href="https://twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1655207367347191808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

The fact that the policing of Saturday’s event has attracted so little comment on here (I’ve seen isolated mentions of it in other rhreads) suggests that there is general support for it on here. How anyone can feel like that is beyond me. We should be a strong and confident enough country to accept peaceful protest, but, instead, the banana republic like Government we have rushes through legislation that outlaws it, what are they scared of or is it just the latest stage in their pathetic culture wars? The fact that 30p Lee is saying that people with Republican views should emigrate suggests it’s the latter.

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The police arrested them because they didn't think their protest would be peaceful and it would be disruptive.

Manufactured outrage (as usual). Someone who the police felt was out to cause harm or disruption would always have been arrested.

If someone is outside Wembley on cup final day with a drone and a t-shirt saying Just Stop Oil, do you think the police would stand and watch? Of course they wouldn't. If they judge a clear intent, they will intervene and rightly so.

Hundreds peacefully protested and good on them. Some, the police deem, were intent on not doing so and intervened.

Everyone has a right to protest, but you can't just do what you like where you like. That's the vibe I get with a lot of the Just Stop Oil lot. Mummy never said No to them.

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Originally Posted by Baloo

Smiling, laughing and trashing the place.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Utterly disgusting mess, left by plastic patriots. <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/EPzwF9uyTW">pic.twitter.com/EPzwF9uyTW</a></p>&mdash; Simon Gosden. Esq. #fbpe 3.5% 🇪🇺🐟🇬🇧🏴*☠️🦠💙 (@g_gosden) <a href="https://twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1655207367347191808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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What a desperate post. 🤣

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

What a desperate post. 🤣

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Just pretending your laughing isn’t really a reposte.

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Originally Posted by Baloo

Just pretending your laughing isn’t really a reposte.

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Is is a desperate post though , have you seen Cardiff City Centre after a Rugby international?

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Originally Posted by Baloo

Just pretending your laughing isn’t really a reposte.

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Yeah I don't think emojis should be taken literally, but it is a desperate post. You could take that after any big public event. I have a general frustration with people who dont take their rubbish home with them but I wouldn't try and pinpoint one group to make a point.

You've become the guy who shows the picture of Glastonbury festival the day it ends and grumbles about the mess. Congratulations.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Is is a desperate post though , have you seen Cardiff City Centre after a Rugby international?

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Yet more whataboutism. So You don’t find it disrespectful for people to turn up and leave their crap everywhere because pissed-up rugby fans also behave like that. There have been lots of posts about rugby fans behaviour on here btw.

And I’m pinpointing the group we’re talking about in this thread. Seems a bit unfair to blame anybody else.

Anyway, tbh not every post is intended to get your take on things. As much as it is inevitable.

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Originally Posted by Baloo

Yet more whataboutism. So You don’t find it disrespectful for people to turn up and leave their crap everywhere because pissed-up rugby fans also behave like that. There have been lots of posts about rugby fans behaviour on here btw.

And I’m pinpointing the group we’re talking about in this thread. Seems a bit unfair to blame anybody else.

Anyway, tbh not every post is intended to get your take on things. As much as it is inevitable.

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Says a guy with 11,000 posts , don’t be a prick and it’s a one off event , just like Glastonberry which would probably damage the countryside more.

You precious melt

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

The police arrested them because they didn't think their protest would be peaceful and it would be disruptive.

Manufactured outrage (as usual). Someone who the police felt was out to cause harm or disruption would always have been arrested.

If someone is outside Wembley on cup final day with a drone and a t-shirt saying Just Stop Oil, do you think the police would stand and watch? Of course they wouldn't. If they judge a clear intent, they will intervene and rightly so.

Hundreds peacefully protested and good on them. Some, the police deem, were intent on not doing so and intervened.

Everyone has a right to protest, but you can't just do what you like where you like. That's the vibe I get with a lot of the Just Stop Oil lot. Mummy never said No to them.

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And you know all of this how? Because you’ve got a “vibe”?

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Says a guy with 11,000 posts , don’t be a prick

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Have to confess I was actually referring to JW not you with last bit. I merged incorrectly. Apologies.

I meant not every post is worth debating. Given why people were there I found it at best ironic. If you can’t criticise this sort of thing, fine.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

The police arrested them because they didn't think their protest would be peaceful and it would be disruptive.

Manufactured outrage (as usual). Someone who the police felt was out to cause harm or disruption would always have been arrested.

If someone is outside Wembley on cup final day with a drone and a t-shirt saying Just Stop Oil, do you think the police would stand and watch? Of course they wouldn't. If they judge a clear intent, they will intervene and rightly so.

Hundreds peacefully protested and good on them. Some, the police deem, were intent on not doing so and intervened.

Everyone has a right to protest, but you can't just do what you like where you like. That's the vibe I get with a lot of the Just Stop Oil lot. Mummy never said No to them.

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You must have been watching very different clips from me of the arrests of peaceful protestors and accredited journalists covering the protests. Standing silently at the edge of a pavement with a placard was not peaceful and was disruptive was it? That was the case with dozens of the arrests. Clearly planned in advance by the Met. Whatever little vibes you are getting it was police state indefensible!

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Originally Posted by jon1959

You must have been watching very different clips from me of the arrests of peaceful protestors and accredited journalists covering the protests. Standing silently at the edge of a pavement with a placard was not peaceful and was disruptive was it? That was the case with dozens of the arrests. Clearly planned in advance by the Met. Whatever little vibes you are getting it was police state indefensible!

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Do you have a copy of the footage?

Police get things wrong, we all know that. But there were peaceful protests. That's a fact. The police didnt arrest everyone or prevent protests. They held a number of people they clearly suspected of planning violence or disruption.

As I said, anyone who thought the kind of Just Stop Oil tactics could carry on and be deployed whenever people wanted were clearly wrong to think that.

The police use "intelligence" for disorder crime and disorder prevention all the time. We didn't see any disorder on the weekend at all. Maybe they did their job well?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Do you have a copy of the footage?

Police get things wrong, we all know that. But there were peaceful protests. That's a fact. The police didnt arrest everyone or prevent protests. They held a number of people they clearly suspected of planning violence or disruption.

As I said, anyone who thought the kind of Just Stop Oil tactics could carry on and be deployed whenever people wanted were clearly wrong to think that.

The police use "intelligence" for disorder crime and disorder prevention all the time. We didn't see any disorder on the weekend at all. Maybe they did their job well?

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The mere fact the police are fallible as you admit demands that they behave with more restraint. If you don't believe this latest behaviour is intolerable then you are even more myopic than I thought you were.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

The mere fact the police are fallible as you admit demands that they behave with more restraint. If you don't believe this latest behaviour is intolerable then you are even more myopic than I thought you were.

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Thing is, you and others wanted disorder. That's what you wanted. Most didn't. The police's job was to prevent it and if they suspected disorder they acted to prevent it.

There were large peaceful protests on the day, which were highlighted on TV.

Police clearly felt that some people did not intend to peacefully protest. I am sure we can all believe that scenario. There's a lot of hate expressed on this board alone, so it's not hard to imagine such a scenario.

If the police have acted unlawfully there are avenues for the people in question - the media have already given them more of a lift up in that regard than many are afforded!

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

What a desperate post. ��

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Nah. Baloo is spot on.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

You must have been watching very different clips from me of the arrests of peaceful protestors and accredited journalists covering the protests. Standing silently at the edge of a pavement with a placard was not peaceful and was disruptive was it? That was the case with dozens of the arrests. Clearly planned in advance by the Met. Whatever little vibes you are getting it was police state indefensible!

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Shocking particularly as Graham Smith had been in regular contact with the MET prior to the coronation.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Thing is, you and others wanted disorder. That's what you wanted. Most didn't. The police's job was to prevent it and if they suspected disorder they acted to prevent it.

There were large peaceful protests on the day, which were highlighted on TV.

Police clearly felt that some people did not intend to peacefully protest. I am sure we can all believe that scenario. There's a lot of hate expressed on this board alone, so it's not hard to imagine such a scenario.

If the police have acted unlawfully there are avenues for the people in question - the media have already given them more of a lift up in that regard than many are afforded!

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As usual you're talking through your a**e. Your naivety astonishes me.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

Nah. Baloo is spot on.

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Nah don't think he is, somewhere in the middle is probably about right

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

As usual you're talking through your a**e. Your naivety astonishes me.

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Don't agree with James on much but why do you come across as such an obnoxious twat??

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

Shocking particularly as Graham Smith had been in regular contact with the MET prior to the coronation.

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It was clearly designed to show the World a false representation of the British public's feelings. Like everything Tory a malevolent sham.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

Shocking particularly as Graham Smith had been in regular contact with the MET prior to the coronation.

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Got to love those on the left.

Plenty of protestors were not arrested.

Maybe, just maybe, police had inside intelligence as to what this group were planning?

And of course, Graham Smith could never, ever lie to the police?

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Originally Posted by Packerman

Don't agree with James on much but why do you come across as such an obnoxious twat??

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And why the f**k should I be concerned with what interfering knobheads think??