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12-05-23, 15:15
Pedro de la Rosa

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

What's that got to do with Ampadu pocketing Leao?

Yes, he defended so well they got battered.
12-05-23, 15:34
Wales-Bales

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Yes, he defended so well they got battered.

He made the Sofascore team of the week for his performance against AC Milan you stupid fukwit :hehe:

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12-05-23, 15:36
Tuerto

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Reminds me of a story someone told me about Micky Droy (Ex Chelsea defender) after he had marked kenny Dalglish in a game where Dalglish hadn't ended up scoring. Droy taunted Dalglish and the fact that he couldn't get on the score sheet that day, even though Chelsea lost 6-0.
12-05-23, 15:37
Wales-Bales

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Reminds me of a story someone told me about Micky Droy (Ex Chelsea defender) after he had marked kenny Dalglish in a game where Dalglish hadn't ended up scoring. Droy taunted Dalglish and the fact that he couldn't get on the score sheet that day, even though Chelsea lost 6-0.

What's that got to do with Ampadu pocketing Rafael Leao? :biggrin:
12-05-23, 15:38
Tuerto

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He made the Sofascore team of the week for his performance against AC Milan you stupid fukwit :hehe:

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12-05-23, 15:39
Tuerto

Re: AC v Inter

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

What's that got to do with Ampadu pocketing Rafael Leao? :biggrin:

I don't know what you are talking about.
12-05-23, 15:42
Wales-Bales

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This place is full of nutters!
12-05-23, 15:51
cyril evans awaydays

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This place is full of nutters!

And you are most of them!
12-05-23, 15:55
BlueArmy 86

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

I'm not doubting you watched them and thought that. You could put Ampadu next to VVD and say Ampadu was better.

Kiwior plays for Arsenal. Ampadu is about 12th choice at Chelsea.

He's played one or two games because their 4th choice Holding has been shocking! If Ampadu was an Arsenal player, he'd have got a game too.
12-05-23, 16:02
Ivortheengine

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Zlatan on one leg would have done better than what we all watched on Wednesday night.
12-05-23, 16:06
Tuerto

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

He's played one or two games because their 4th choice Holding has been shocking! If Ampadu was an Arsenal player, he'd have got a game too.

He's not at Arsenal though.
12-05-23, 17:10
Wales-Bales

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He's played one or two games because their 4th choice Holding has been shocking! If Ampadu was an Arsenal player, he'd have got a game too.

Kiwior is a good player who will improve under the guidance of Arteta, and being surrounded by much better players will raise the level of his game. I think he's about 6 months older than Ampadu, so plenty of time to develop into a top player.
12-05-23, 17:24
Tuerto

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Kiwior is a good player who will improve under the guidance of Arteta, and being surrounded by much better players will raise the level of his game. I think he's about 6 months older than Ampadu, so plenty of time to develop into a top player.

You don't half make assumptions with players.
12-05-23, 17:40
Wales-Bales

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

You don't half make assumptions with players.

It's pretty obvious that Kiwior is going to raise his game after playing alongside journeymen and footballing nomads at Spezia. He is now surrounded by some of the worlds best players, and a smart manager.
12-05-23, 18:05
Tuerto

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It's pretty obvious that Kiwior is going to raise his game after playing alongside journeymen and footballing nomads at Spezia. He is now surrounded by some of the worlds best players, and a smart manager.

There you go again.
12-05-23, 18:06
Wales-Bales

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

There you go again.

I've seen Kiwior play around 15 times this season, how about you? He's already looking like a better player after three and a half months of higher level training at Arsenal. So it's not really an assumption, it is my considered opinion.
12-05-23, 18:09
Tuerto

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We got there in the end, it's your opinion. You've got to stop presenting stuff as if it's fact. As for the player, never heard of him, but that wasn't the point i was making.
12-05-23, 18:20
Wales-Bales

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We got there in the end, it's your opinion. You've got to stop presenting stuff as if it's fact. As for the player, never heard of him, but that wasn't the point i was making.

Football is all about opinions mate, even the bollocks that Ferdinand, Lineker, Shearer, Neville & Co spout on the TV a couple of times a week.
12-05-23, 18:54
Tuerto

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Football is all about opinions mate, even the bollocks that Ferdinand, Lineker, Shearer, Neville & Co spout on the TV a couple of times a week.

Yes, i agree,that was what i was aiming towards :hehe:
12-05-23, 21:39
J R Hartley

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

He's played one or two games because their 4th choice Holding has been shocking! If Ampadu was an Arsenal player, he'd have got a game too.

Arsenal haven’t just forked out 20m for a 23 year old 4th/5th choice centre back. That’s not the way they do business. He will be Salobas long term partner. He’s a good defender, better than Ampadu. Spezias defence has got considerably worse since he left.
12-05-23, 21:45
life on mars

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

This place is full of nutters!

And it's Friday, extra Sherry Trifle evening for the patients
12-05-23, 21:47
J R Hartley

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It would have been the same if Ampadu left, because they are two of Spezia's best players. Now do like for like. Ampadu pocketed Rafael Leao in the game against Milan, and he's one of the top players in Serie A.

Im dealing in facts not opinion and certainly not
one eyed opinion.
12-05-23, 21:47
J R Hartley

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And it's Friday, extra Sherry Trifle evening for the patients

**** off
12-05-23, 21:49
J R Hartley

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

He's not at Arsenal though.

Exactly. If my auntie had bollocks she’d be my uncle. Or a they or whatever is PC these days.
13-05-23, 08:51
Wales-Bales

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Im dealing in facts not opinion and certainly not
one eyed opinion.

I remember when you said Matondo was tearing up the Scottish Premier League. When facts meet reality, hey :biggrin:
13-05-23, 09:08
cyril evans awaydays

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I remember when you said Matondo was tearing up the Scottish Premier League. When facts meet reality, hey :biggrin:

I remember Hartley ridiculing a statement you made that Matondo was slipping down the pecking order at Rangers by pointing out that he had played the previous two league games but nothing where he said he was ever tearing up the Scottish Premier League.

You don't have that real fact to back up your opinion do you?
13-05-23, 09:14
J R Hartley

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

I remember Hartley ridiculing a statement you made that Matondo was slipping down the pecking order at Rangers by pointing out that he had played the previous two league games but nothing where he said he was ever tearing up the Scottish Premier League.

You don't have that real fact to back up your opinion do you?

Correct

He’s just making things up the silly boy.

27 appearances this season, as recent as starting last week, says he hasn’t completely slipped down any pecking order.

No one said he was tearing anything up.
13-05-23, 09:37
Wales-Bales

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

I remember Hartley ridiculing a statement you made that Matondo was slipping down the pecking order at Rangers by pointing out that he had played the previous two league games but nothing where he said he was ever tearing up the Scottish Premier League.

You don't have that real fact to back up your opinion do you?

The discussion was in the context of Matondo failing to make the World Cup squad, so the outcome is easily measurable.
13-05-23, 09:39
Hilts

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Lets see if Ampadu gets a chance at Chelsea.

I suspect he wont as lower end top flight football looks his level.

Maybe a loan back to Sheff U?
13-05-23, 11:14
Wales-Bales

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Lets see if Ampadu gets a chance at Chelsea.

I suspect he wont as lower end top flight football looks his level.

Maybe a loan back to Sheff U?

Yes, what comes next will be crucial to his career development. The general consensus seems to be that he is crap because when one of their two best defensive players left he was unable to do the job of two players, which Kiwior could have easily managed if Ampadu had left.
13-05-23, 12:25
Tuerto

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Yes, what comes next will be crucial to his career development. The general consensus seems to be that he is crap because when one of their two best defensive players left he was unable to do the job of two players, which Kiwior could have easily managed if Ampadu had left.

Not one person has said that Ampadu is crap, the only person on here who has gone hyperbole over him is you. To be critical you do need to pick up on a players weakness's as well as their strengths, you don't seem capable of doing that. You think that you are correct all of the time, yet I have never seen you tell us what Ampadu does well or the things he isn't so good at, I don't think that you're capable of doing so, because I don't think that you have an "eye' for a player in the way that you seem to think that you do. Balance up the argument and then maybe people will take you a little more seriously. As it stands that's nye on impossible, because you give one side and present it as fact.
13-05-23, 18:50
Wales-Bales

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Not one person has said that Ampadu is crap, the only person on here who has gone hyperbole over him is you. To be critical you do need to pick up on a players weakness's as well as their strengths, you don't seem capable of doing that. You think that you are correct all of the time, yet I have never seen you tell us what Ampadu does well or the things he isn't so good at, I don't think that you're capable of doing so, because I don't think that you have an "eye' for a player in the way that you seem to think that you do. Balance up the argument and then maybe people will take you a little more seriously. As it stands that's nye on impossible, because you give one side and present it as fact.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I was in the home studio watching Brooks & Johnson on the multi-screens, followed by 22-yeal old Ampadu orchestrating a rear-guard action, while playing in the heart of the defence at CCB in their 2-0 win over AC Milan. While we are on the subject of young Ampadu, why would I need to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of a player who has already achieved 42 Welsh caps, when most posters on here are acutely aware of what he brings to the table?
13-05-23, 19:19
Tuerto

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Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I was in the home studio watching Brooks & Johnson on the multi-screens, followed by 22-yeal old Ampadu orchestrating a rear-guard action, while playing in the heart of the defence at CCB in their 2-0 win over AC Milan. While we are on the subject of young Ampadu, why would I need to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of a player who has already achieved 42 Welsh caps, when most posters on here are acutely aware of what he brings to the table?

Why would you? Because his strengths and weaknesses are what define him, what will determine his future, yet you don't engage, ever. You just fanboy him up and refuse to acknowledge anyone elses opinion unless it sides with what you believe, That's the art of debate, different opinions. I don't think that you can do it though. Why talk about anything if we can see with our eyes?
13-05-23, 19:36
Wales-Bales

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Why would you? Because his strengths and weaknesses are what define him, what will determine his future, yet you don't engage, ever. You just fanboy him up and refuse to acknowledge anyone elses opinion unless it sides with what you believe, That's the art of debate, different opinions. I don't think that you can do it though. Why talk about anything if we can see with our eyes?

A 22-year old Welsh lad playing in the heart of the defence just organised all the players around him and shut-out the Champions League semi-finalists, and you are talking about strengths and weakness, as well as calling me a fanboy? Unbelievable mate :biggrin:
13-05-23, 20:08
Tuerto

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A 22-year old Welsh lad playing in the heart of the defence just organised all the players around him and shut-out the Champions League semi-finalists, and you are talking about strengths and weakness, as well as calling me a fanboy? Unbelievable mate :biggrin:

There you go again, Incapable of any form of debate. You just post when he has done something positive, which really weakens your viewpoint. He does have weakness's and strengths, like all players, but you are incapable of debating them, because you aren't capable of seeing them. What do you want people to do, just say how wonderful he is whenever you post something about him? That's not in the book of free thinkers, is it?
13-05-23, 20:18
Wales-Bales

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

There you go again, Incapable of any form of debate. You just post when he has done something positive, which really weakens your viewpoint. He does have weakness's and strengths, like all players, but you are incapable of debating them, because you aren't capable of seeing them. What do you want people to do, just say how wonderful he is whenever you post something about him? That's not in the book of free thinkers, is it?

People can draw their own conclusions, but it's looking like no Champions League for AC Milan next season due to a shortage of weaknesses :biggrin:
13-05-23, 23:29
Eric the Half a Bee

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People can draw their own conclusions, but it's looking like no Champions League for AC Milan next season due to a shortage of weaknesses :biggrin:

Sorry, but every time I read your posts about him I ignore you simply because you will not enter into any debate about him, but will deflect and ignore as you see fit. No matter what anyone says about Ampadu, you have a ready made response, which is usually bollocks.
14-05-23, 10:46
Wales-Bales

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Sorry, but every time I read your posts about him I ignore you simply because you will not enter into any debate about him, but will deflect and ignore as you see fit. No matter what anyone says about Ampadu, you have a ready made response, which is usually bollocks.

Hilarious, coming from someone who describes a world class goal as "teams lumping it forward". To be honest, I find some of the pissed-up bollocks you post on here boring, so I look forward to never hearing from you again!
14-05-23, 15:53
City123

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He's been linked with Fiorentina, would like to see him move on this summer as he's unlikely to get many opportunities at Chelsea
14-05-23, 16:13
Tuerto

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Originally Posted by City123

He's been linked with Fiorentina, would like to see him move on this summer as he's unlikely to get many opportunities at Chelsea

Finally, something to work with! Italian football might suit his style of play, it's slower than The Premier League from what i have seen, especially in the final thirds, and players are afforded more time on the ball. Ampadu almost plays a specialist roll, which means that a team has to accommodate him, allow him to drop off, work the spaces between the midfield and defence, he's the 2nd defender in a defensive pairing, decent in possession, decent with time and space. Struggles (in my opinion) when the game is compressed or when the opposition play a high line, he can be guilty of ball watching and losing concentration. A good player in possession, suspect when not.

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