He won’t , he can look after himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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He won’t , he can look after himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Thank God the police didn't. There was a Baby on the scene and quite a few children.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
You'd be happy for them to use tear gas in a residential area?!Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I thought you'd be more of a rubber bullets kind of guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Not if he was surrounded by 5 of themQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Even Bruce Lee said to run away from that
Sad that 2 young people died there. Social media rumours to blame for the aftermath it seems. Sorry business all round.
On a wider point, I was in Bristol recently and witnessed motorised scooters weaving in and out of rush hour traffic, no helmets, no protection. These 2 in Ely won't be the last unfortunately.
I see loads of Surron-style electric scramblers being driven by kids without helmets, they hit speeds of 50mph+ and don't tend to stop at red lights. They are silent and look like normal bikes from a distance so much easier to manage than the traditional noisy scramblers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime
At the risk of sounding like a miserable old git these electric scooters are a right old pain.
The concept is fine but, generally speaking, once you add human beings into the equation it all falls down.
Excessive speeding on the pavements is a given and woe betide you if you don't have the reflexes of an Olympic gymnast in terms of getting out of the way.
I noticed that several rail companies have now banned them on the basis of a fire risk but judging by my commute this morning that is being ignored as widely as the other laws relating to their use.
On the plus side cyclists can now be seen as almost paragons of virtue compared to the scooter brigade.
Before I get accussed of being Clarkson in disguise I fully acknowledge that car drivers are seemingly now all coked up as well.
Aren’t these scooters banned from roads and pavements?
not in Bristol, I think they're greatQuote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
I thought they were illegal unless used on private land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
https://travelwest.info/projects/e-scooter-trial/Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
Wether you were giving it a ringing endorsement or not you were adding fuel to the rumour fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
Thankfully there were no more fatalities last night than the orignal 2 lads (RIP) but spreading such misinformation is reckless and dangerous as it proved last night.
was it misinformation though?Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
We have them in Taunton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Well according to the police commisioner himself last night it is not true. They turned up AFTER the collision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
It is being widely reported, locally and nationally, that the police chase was rumours and not fact and those rumours are being blamed for the riots.
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
All sorts of rumours, it takes a while for the exact truth to become clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Cardiff can't manage push bikes, our yobs would steal or burn them all out in a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
So two kids died on escooters at the same time? Hit by a car?
do you think our yobs are any worse than Bristol's yobs?Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Hit by a car, or they hit a car?Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Ive read (with the disclaimer it was on the Internet) that they collided with a bus. Not confirmed either how many scooters they were riding.
The PCC said "two teenagers on an off-road bike or scooter", seems like one.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
That's the impression I got aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I was in my wife's car last night, Newport Rd, in the dark - two teenagers on the same e-scooter, no lights, no reflectors, not even light clothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime
Accident waiting to happen.
That's nonsense, I saw him take on a huge mob in Enter the Dragon.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
For damaging the next bikes apparently, we were!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...e-why-22112287
https://highways-news.com/bike-hire-...0into%20rivers.
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2022-...e-to-vandalism
https://www.traveline.cymru/news/202...and-vandalism/
There was talk of changing the name of the river taff to the river OVO.
I see where you're coming from. But the reality is, that was the story that was doing the rounds. It helps to provide a context as to why this whole horrible event occured. It's a damn good lesson on the dangers of social media I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I think people reporting it as fact on social media and whipping people up is wrong. But mentioning the social media speculation on a football message board, I don't see how that's inflammatory to be honest.
Certainly wasn't my intention to report it as fact, hence why I mentioned it was from twitter.
There is a specific reason why it all kicked off, and I haven't seen anybody mention it on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
BBC now reporting it was an electric bike, big difference from a (normal) e-scooter in terms of the speed it could hit with a passenger on the back. Basically half way between a mountain bike and a full-on motorbike.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
People couldn't see who it was as closed off for a crime scene yesterday people were saying, if not that what was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
See this a lot….black clothes and sometimes a balaclava, 007 they ain’t……Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh
Yet another reminder of the dregs of society that live among us. 2 youngsters killed tragically, (whether they were in the wrong or not) and the local oxygen thieves start rioting, attacking police, and setting fire to cars.
Basically terrifying their own neighbours, smashing up their own neighbourhood, and not giving a fu*k about the families of the 2 victims.
It was a sur-ron e bike not a scooter, they're dangerously fast and you see a lot of them around Ely.
A lot of Ely residents saying it was a police chase, so who knows. Surprised so many people actually trust south wales police with their track record. They're notoriously the most corrupt force in the UK? I've had a terrible experience with them about 10 years ago, with false statements produced. So I'm not automatically believing there wasn't a chase, My mate who lives in Ely told me about the incident, and the rumour about the police chase/bus involved, a while before the riots broke out. I'll wait for the truth to come out.
The riots are a disgrace by the way, causing more bother for neighbours than the police.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65687785
CCTV shows police following bike..
Which is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
The cctv appears to show a van following a bike. For it to be a police 'chase' then authority would have to be given based on the circumstances at the time. The driver also needs to be an advanced driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86
I doubt that this was an authorised chase or pursuit, and that the van was just following at a safe distance, whatever the perception and interpretationof those that saw it.
Because Bamba and Morison have been linked with the Managers job!Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
That van was quite close, and looked like a chase to me, why were they chasing/following them?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86
It’s basically an electric trials or motor cross bike but classified as a cycle and capable of 50mph & bleeding expensive, £4.5k to £5kQuote:
Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86