Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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15-06-23, 13:12
Rjk

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Some proof that you would be better voting for Conservative financially but chose not to?

that might be difficult to come by given the way the Tories have been running the economy
15-06-23, 13:15
North Cardiff Blue

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Some proof that you would be better voting for Conservative financially but chose not to?

It's probably not true, people vote for whats best for them and their families.

You said your mate is skint and works all the hours under the sun and can't make ends meet, yet you made a fortune on Gamestop or something but didn't help him and give it to him?

Why not if your a true socialist?

You're
15-06-23, 13:17
Harry Lime

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There are those who couldn't visit loved ones in the final months of their life who rightly feel like he should be held to account. Sadly the time lapse has had an effect and I think swathes of the wider public do consider it to be old news. Apparently a recent survey concluded that a quarter of Britons think that the pandemic was a hoax. We live in a world of short memories and the only war that's being won is by culture war conspiracy nuts.
15-06-23, 13:28
Dorcus

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Some proof that you would be better voting for Conservative financially but chose not to?

It's probably not true, people vote for whats best for them and their families.

You said your mate is skint and works all the hours under the sun and can't make ends meet, yet you made a fortune on Gamestop or something but didn't help him and give it to him?

Why not if your a true socialist?

I don't have a mate who is skint and works all the hours under the sun and I don't even know what GameStop is let alone having made a fortune over it. You must be confusing me with someone else.

However in response to your sentiment the guy wouldn't even need to be a friend for me to help him out.

I'm sure all of us would do the same.
15-06-23, 13:28
North Cardiff Blue

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by Harry Lime

There are those who couldn't visit loved ones in the final months of their life who rightly feel like he should be held to account. Sadly the time lapse has had an effect and I think swathes of the wider public do consider it to be old news. Apparently a recent survey concluded that a quarter of Britons think that the pandemic was a hoax. We live in a world of short memories and the only war that's being won is by culture war conspiracy nuts.

It was certainly exaggerated to frighten the public into silly rules, they were necessary until the vaccine perhaps, after that they should have been reduced much more quickly, but as you suggest it's easy to say that now in hindsight.
15-06-23, 13:29
North Cardiff Blue

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I don't have a mate who is skint and works all the hours under the sun and I don't even know what GameStop is let alone having made a fortune over it. You must be confusing me with someone else.

However in response to your sentiment the guy wouldn't even need to be a friend for me to help him out.

I'm sure all of us would do the same.

Are you sure?

Didn't you say you had a mate that works all the hours under the sun, and you made more money in a short time buying and selling some shares?

You went quiet then because I said how much tax did you pay and what tax and how did you pay it?

Or am mistaken?
15-06-23, 13:31
Dorcus

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Are you sure?

Didn't you say you had a mate that works all the hours under the sun, and you made more money in a short space of time buying and selling some shares?

No, like I said you must be confusing me with someone else.
15-06-23, 13:33
Dorcus

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

It was certainly exaggerated to frighten the public into silly rules, they were necessary until the vaccine perhaps, after that they should have been reduced much more quickly, but as you suggest it's easy to say that now in hindsight.

It certainly wasn't exaggerated and there were no silly rules. When faced with a life or death crisis unfortunately inconveniences will occur.
15-06-23, 13:39
North Cardiff Blue

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

No, like I said you must be confusing me with someone else.

OK fair enough :thumbup:
15-06-23, 13:40
North Cardiff Blue

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

It certainly wasn't exaggerated and there were no silly rules. When faced with a life or death crisis unfortunately inconveniences will occur.

Matter of opinion.
15-06-23, 13:50
Dorcus

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Matter of opinion.

No much more than that. Unpleasant facts more like.
15-06-23, 13:51
Dorcus

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

OK fair enough :thumbup:

No problems 👍
15-06-23, 14:14
TWGL1

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Boris had been ventilated as was reported , it makes you wonder why he actually broke the rules that were brought in to protect him
15-06-23, 14:25
JamesWales

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Originally Posted by Rjk

that might be difficult to come by given the way the Tories have been running the economy

The British economy is growing, The Eurozones isn't. What do you mean?
15-06-23, 14:36
Rjk

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

The British economy is growing, The Eurozones isn't. What do you mean?

:facepalm:

if you look over a pretty short time period you can make it seem as though the UK economy is outperforming the major EU nations, but it isn't the case.
while all nations have taken a hit from COVID, and Ukraine, the UK has been affected more than comparative EU countries, over a short time period they have recovered more than some of the EU nations because they fell a lot more.

if you look at the whole picture since Brexit then we certainly aren't outperforming the other major EU nations
15-06-23, 14:53
ToTaL ITK

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I wasn't running the country and I don't drink

You are doing exactly what the tory fans of Boris are doing ......oh it doesn't matter , everyone breaks the rules etc etc

Please don't tell me you have a postal vote over here , no wonder the country is going to the dogs

Exactly! Lying cnut Boris gets caught out but let's all focus on what someone else did instead.Typical tory tactics
15-06-23, 15:30
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

The British economy is growing, The Eurozones isn't. What do you mean?

The UK economy is growing as a slower rate than it was before the covid crisis

The Eurozone economy is indeed growing and is set to continue growing at a faster rate than ours

What newspaper have you been reading ?
15-06-23, 15:31
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by Rjk

:facepalm:

if you look over a pretty short time period you can make it seem as though the UK economy is outperforming the major EU nations, but it isn't the case.
while all nations have taken a hit from COVID, and Ukraine, the UK has been affected more than comparative EU countries, over a short time period they have recovered more than some of the EU nations because they fell a lot more.

if you look at the whole picture since Brexit then we certainly aren't outperforming the other major EU nations

He's wrong , you don't even have to go as far as you have
15-06-23, 17:59
Dave Blue

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Like being knocked into a 6 foot hole, getting onto your knees and suggesting you have ‘grown’ more than people walking around above you.
15-06-23, 20:58
Taffy Blue in Berkshire

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Originally Posted by Rjk

that might be difficult to come by given the way the Tories have been running the economy

error in this statement. should be "fecking the economy"!
15-06-23, 21:20
JamesWales

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

The UK economy is growing as a slower rate than it was before the covid crisis

The Eurozone economy is indeed growing and is set to continue growing at a faster rate than ours

What newspaper have you been reading ?

What is so weird about some of you, is that you spread misinformation to slag off your own country. It's just so weird. It's one thing to criticise the country using truth but to misrepresent things to do it. Why bother doing that?

It's like Cardiff City winning 1-0, Swansea losing 1-0 and you telling everyone in the pub that we are so much worse than them.

UK growth
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/12/uk-e...to-weigh-.html

Eurozone in recession.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...sis-takes-toll
15-06-23, 21:33
North Cardiff Blue

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

What is so weird about some of you, is that you spread misinformation to slag off your own country. It's just so weird. It's one thing to criticise the country using truth but to misrepresent things to do it. Why bother doing that?

It's like Cardiff City winning 1-0, Swansea losing 1-0 and you telling everyone in the pub that we are so much worse than them.

UK growth
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/12/uk-e...to-weigh-.html

Eurozone in recession.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...sis-takes-toll

He just does it to say the UK government is worse than they are, and can't accept that Drakeford Labour Welsh assembly is ten times worse.
15-06-23, 21:37
JamesWales

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

He just does it to say the UK government is worse than they are, and can't accept that Drakeford Labour Welsh assembly is ten times worse.

It's pathetic. The eurozone collectively is in a bloody recession and it's just totally ignored cos "tOrIEs R bAdDieS'.

It's just ridiculous.
15-06-23, 21:59
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

What is so weird about some of you, is that you spread misinformation to slag off your own country. It's just so weird. It's one thing to criticise the country using truth but to misrepresent things to do it. Why bother doing that?

It's like Cardiff City winning 1-0, Swansea losing 1-0 and you telling everyone in the pub that we are so much worse than them.

UK growth
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/12/uk-e...to-weigh-.html

Eurozone in recession.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...sis-takes-toll

I am not spreading misinformation you clown

The UK economy is not in growth , its spluttering like a car with no petrol and its going to fare worse than the eurozone countries in 2024
15-06-23, 22:01
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

He just does it to say the UK government is worse than they are, and can't accept that Drakeford Labour Welsh assembly is ten times worse.

Shut up you daft old tory xxxt

He's wrong
15-06-23, 22:03
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

It's pathetic. The eurozone collectively is in a bloody recession and it's just totally ignored cos "tOrIEs R bAdDieS'.

It's just ridiculous.

That's not what you raised

You said the UK economy was in growth and tried to compare it to the eurozone

That's absolute bullshit

If you think you know more than the fellas from the square Mile you better get on the phone to them , pronto !
15-06-23, 22:06
JamesWales

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

That's not what you raised

You said the UK economy was in growth and tried to compare it to the eurozone

That's absolute bullshit

If you think you know more than the fellas from the square Mile you better get on the phone to them , pronto !

It's not bullshit. It's the truth. You are just as well off arguing that Inter Milan won the champions league on Saturday evening.

Your arguments would be a lot stronnger if you acknowledged the truth right in front of you sometimes instead of doubling down on something untrue.

You are still allowed to be a Labour voter. Accepting some facts that you don't like doesn't mean that has to change or anything.
15-06-23, 22:10
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

It's not bullshit. It's the truth. You are just as well off arguing that Inter Milan won the champions league on Saturday evening.

Your arguments would be a lot stronnger if you acknowledged the truth right in front of you sometimes instead of doubling down on something untrue.

You are still allowed to be a Labour voter. Accepting some facts that you don't like doesn't mean that has to change or anything.

Nobody has talked about the UK economy being in growth

Apart from you

You are a spotty little tory boy
15-06-23, 22:23
JamesWales

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It's the truth Sludge.

You are the only one arguing against the truth here.
15-06-23, 22:30
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

It's the truth Sludge.

You are the only one arguing against the truth here.

No ****er is talking about the UK economy being in growth

Apart from you

Even Jeremy hunt is quiet

Now piss off
15-06-23, 22:36
JamesWales

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

No ****er is talking about the UK economy being in growth

Apart from you

Even Jeremy hunt is quiet

Now piss off

You're bonkers 🤣.
15-06-23, 22:55
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

You're bonkers 🤣.

You are a tory

So **** off
16-06-23, 07:18
the other bob wilson

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

What is so weird about some of you, is that you spread misinformation to slag off your own country. It's just so weird. It's one thing to criticise the country using truth but to misrepresent things to do it. Why bother doing that?

It's like Cardiff City winning 1-0, Swansea losing 1-0 and you telling everyone in the pub that we are so much worse than them.

UK growth
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/12/uk-e...to-weigh-.html

Eurozone in recession.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...sis-takes-toll

I posted this in another thread, but it applies just as much here.

"You can just imagine some of the Tories on here casting about desperately every morning trying to find some evidence from abroad that they can attempt to cast the UK in a good light by comparison.

All anyone needs to do is look at stories like these to get a true idea as to why but what about the Germans, what about the Italians etc etc stuff should be treated with derision.

https://neweconomics.org/2020/02/the...it-was-in-2008

https://www.nuffieldfoundation.org/n...able-countries

https://www.newstatesman.com/chart-o...y-were-in-2008

https://www.newstatesman.com/chart-o...ving-standards

NB The body of the last two stories are behind a pay wall, but the headlines make the point I wanted to make."
16-06-23, 08:48
North Cardiff Blue

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I posted this in another thread, but it applies just as much here.

"You can just imagine some of the Tories on here casting about desperately every morning trying to find some evidence from abroad that they can attempt to cast the UK in a good light by comparison.

All anyone needs to do is look at stories like these to get a true idea as to why but what about the Germans, what about the Italians etc etc stuff should be treated with derision.

https://neweconomics.org/2020/02/the...it-was-in-2008

https://www.nuffieldfoundation.org/n...able-countries

https://www.newstatesman.com/chart-o...y-were-in-2008

https://www.newstatesman.com/chart-o...ving-standards

NB The body of the last two stories are behind a pay wall, but the headlines make the point I wanted to make."

I don't think you can post links.

None of the pages can be found.
16-06-23, 09:03
the other bob wilson

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

I don't think you can post links.

None of the pages can be found.

I copied and pasted the message from the thread, maybe that’s why they didn’t work - they all do in the thread, here’s a link to it.

https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...Truss-In-Sight
16-06-23, 09:37
A Quiet Monkfish

Re: Boris Party gate.....he's as bent as a 7 pound note

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

No ****er is talking about the UK economy being in growth

Apart from you

Even Jeremy hunt is quiet

Now piss off

recession, growth, when you're talking in terms of a percentage of a percentage it's not significant either way. The likes of the BBC et al love to use phrases such as 'the UK is now technically in recession' but it does create the dramatic headline. Here's one for you ...

Someone/a couple with a £300,000 mortgage are now paying £13,000 a year more than they were 18 months ago.
16-06-23, 15:04
the other bob wilson

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Strong rumours that Johnson will be announced as a columnist for the Daily Mail tomorrow.
16-06-23, 16:51
jon1959

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Strong rumours that Johnson will be announced as a columnist for the Daily Mail tomorrow.

More than a rumour:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65930008
16-06-23, 16:59
ninian opinian

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If you read one thing today then read this. “The week in Tory”. Honestly, if it wasn’t so tragic it would be hysterical https://twitter.com/russincheshire/s...LTsVTx09ZSEfIA
16-06-23, 17:44
the other bob wilson

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

If you read one thing today then read this. “The week in Tory”. Honestly, if it wasn’t so tragic it would be hysterical https://twitter.com/russincheshire/s...LTsVTx09ZSEfIA

Mind boggling.

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