Gary Lineker, Rylan Clark and Jeremy Vine rule themselves out of being the latest BBC pervert

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

This is better from you. You quote a section from an act (State led-But it enforces your view, so it'll do) And now you challenge it, because you're starting to **** yourself up again. This free thinking malarkey is hard work.

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It's not illegal to be naked in public, but performing a sex act is.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It's not illegal to be naked in public, but performing a sex act is.

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Is a Private news publication 'In Public' It might be 'For Sale' to the public. You tell me.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Is a Private news publication 'In Public' It might be 'For Sale' to the public. You tell me.

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Instead of speculating, go and find the specific laws relating to uncovered breasts. I've already quoted the law relevant to Person X at the BBC, which is what this thread is about. Everything else is whataboutery.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Instead of speculating, go and find the specific laws relating to uncovered breasts. I've already quoted the law relevant to Person X at the BBC, which is what this thread is about. Everything else is whataboutery.

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I'm not speculating, you are. I'm asking questions. I would have thought that you would have been proud of me.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I'm not speculating, you are. I'm asking questions. I would have thought that you would have been proud of me.

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Having started this thread and posted how we are, in effect, paying for this kind of alleged behaviour through our TV licences, he’s now got himself into a position where he seems to be saying that if the unknown celebrity paid the seventeen year old to allow him to take topless photos of her, it’s okay after all.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Having started this thread and posted how we are, in effect, paying for this kind of alleged behaviour through our TV licences, he’s now got himself into a position where he seems to be saying that if the unknown celebrity paid the seventeen year old to allow him to take topless photos of her, it’s okay after all.

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Yup. Cut some slack though. Having to think in the way he does takes a special kind of person. The likes of you and i don't really understand or see what is actually unravelling in front of us.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Having started this thread and posted how we are, in effect, paying for this kind of alleged behaviour through our TV licences, he’s now got himself into a position where he seems to be saying that if the unknown celebrity paid the seventeen year old to allow him to take topless photos of her, it’s okay after all.

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So, more whataboutery and insinuation. Well done.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Yup. Cut some slack though. Having to think in the way he does takes a special kind of person. The likes of you and i don't really understand or see what is actually unravelling in front of us.

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If you want to go off-piste, just cite the relevant case law and show a sample prosecution that solidifies the points you are trying to make. I have an open mind and I am easily convinced if you show me the facts.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

So, more whataboutery and insinuation. Well done.

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Don’t be so modest (never thought I’d type that about you!), it’s all your own work.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So you've just proved the Sun was breaking the law when it published topless photos of Samantha Fox in 1983 a few months short of her seventeenth birthday.

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I don't want to defend the sun as I despise them but the under 18 limit was introduced in 2003. The people who drafted and voted the 1978 Bill through parliament thought 16 year olds were fair game and the sun exploited that to post pictures of a 16 year old child.

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Originally Posted by PontBlue

I don't want to defend the sun as I despise them but the under 18 limit was introduced in 2003. The people who drafted and voted the 1978 Bill through parliament thought 16 year olds were fair game and the sun exploited that to post pictures of a 16 year old child.

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Fair enough, but I think the original point still stands, the hypocrisy of the Sun is pretty clear for all to see.

I agree. The sun can never claim the moral high ground

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Originally Posted by PontBlue

I don't want to defend the sun as I despise them but the under 18 limit was introduced in 2003. The people who drafted and voted the 1978 Bill through parliament thought 16 year olds were fair game and the sun exploited that to post pictures of a 16 year old child.

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Would those pre-2003 Sun photos be illegal under the updated law?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Fair enough, but I think the original point still stands, the hypocrisy of the Sun is pretty clear for all to see.

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It's still whataboutery to imply equivalence when different laws were in place.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Would those pre-2003 Sun photos be illegal under the updated law?

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I don't know for sure but I think it is illegal to share or reprint those pre-2003 photos.

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Originally Posted by PontBlue

I don't know for sure but I think it is illegal to share or reprint those pre-2003 photos.

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It's not looking very good for Person X at the BBC then if these allegations have any substance.

A celebrity (though not Royalty) funded by the establishment MSM BBC licence fee exploiting a teenager for their own gratification.

A teenage girl who may or may not have known what they were getting into taking explicit photographs of herself to fund a crack habit.

All chronicled by a newspaper loved by the masses in its time for semi-naked photos of teenage girls who may or may not have known what they were getting into.

Surely on past form only LoM can guide us out of this moral maze!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It's not looking very good for Person X at the BBC then if these allegations have any substance.

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I think part of the 2003 act specifically targeted page 3 and it's ilk.

But it's a crime to take, make, share or keep an indecent photo or video of a child under 18.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

All chronicled by a newspaper loved by the masses in its time for semi-naked photos of teenage girls who may or may not have known what they were getting into.

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You forgot to add that it was done legally at the time by professional models.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

You forgot to add that it was done legally.

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I said a moral maze not a legal one. Do try to keep up.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

I said a moral maze not a legal one. Do try to keep up.

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Just imagine the moral maze in the Victorian era, the outrage over a bare ankle would have been off the charts.

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Who's everyone's money on then?

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Attenborugh or Sue Barker

Shock horror allegedly another pervert at the BBC, mother reports to the SUN when she sees no action by the BBC after reporting it to them, CCMB, let's go after the paper and poster who brings it to attention and gives a pass to topic, Hide your kids away, I've just seen that #No.1 pervert is coming to meet Jug ears next week, that'll be an interesting conversation, they do have something in common.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Shock horror allegedly another pervert at the BBC, mother reports to the SUN when she sees no action by the BBC after reporting it to them, CCMB, let's go after the paper and poster who brings it to attention and gives a pass to topic, Hide your kids away, I've just seen that #No.1 pervert is coming to meet Jug ears next week, that'll be an interesting conversation, they do have something in common.

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Let’s have a list of all of those posters who are defending the BBC employee then because I’ve not seen any. I’ve seen people having a go at the pure hypocrisy of the Sun and at the person who started the thread using the word “pervert” and last time I looked had got into such a mess that he was looking as if he was trying to justify someone taking topless shots of a sixteen year old.

The Sun has significant form here.

For those who were around in the mid 1980’s will recall the scandal around Bill Wyman from the Stones and the teenager Mandy Smith. Bill meet her when she was 13 and he was 47. He later wrote in his autobiography “She took my breath away, she was a woman at thirteen". He pursued her for years and Mandy Smith reported that they had sex when she was 14.

The Sun and other media at the time covered this as a randy old man chasing a stunning young woman. There was no coverage about Bill being a possible paedophile (which was confirmed by Smith herself). This can’t be dismissed as ‘that was the times’ as it was still illegal then. She later married him at 18 but you cant ignore the possibility of grooming, which was magnified by the his world of super stardom. Her mother at the time appeared more interested in the riches and glamour than protecting her young daughter.

Whenever the Sun goes on a crusade like this they should be reminded how they profited from this episode and others like it

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Shock horror allegedly another pervert at the BBC, mother reports to the SUN when she sees no action by the BBC after reporting it to them, CCMB, let's go after the paper and poster who brings it to attention and gives a pass to topic, Hide your kids away, I've just seen that #No.1 pervert is coming to meet Jug ears next week, that'll be an interesting conversation, they do have something in common.

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Nels, your previous contribution was #sound of freedom NCSWIC..

I have no idea what that means but obviously you thought it relevant to the thread. If the reports are correct then the person taking advantage of this teenager needs the punishment appropriate to their sins. However be under no illusion that this thread was triggered because the person works for the BBC rather than through care and consideration for the victim.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Nels, your previous contribution was #sound of freedom NCSWIC..

I have no idea what that means but obviously you thought it relevant to the thread. If the reports are correct then the person taking advantage of this teenager needs the punishment appropriate to their sins. However be under no illusion that this thread was triggered because the person works for the BBC rather than through care and consideration for the victim.

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Delve into the world of censorship with our enlightened friends, the Alt right don't really believe in it, or think that much of regulation, let the people decide what's appropriate or not. Yet we are at a point where the Childrens act is banded about. The ***** would still have 8 year olds up Chimneys.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Shock horror allegedly another pervert at the BBC, mother reports to the SUN when she sees no action by the BBC after reporting it to them, CCMB, let's go after the paper and poster who brings it to attention and gives a pass to topic, Hide your kids away, I've just seen that #No.1 pervert is coming to meet Jug ears next week, that'll be an interesting conversation, they do have something in common.

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Is the #No. 1 pervert the former us president who answered the question "what do you have in common with your daughter?" with "sex"?

And has called his daughter "voluptuous " and "a piece of ass" and "if she wasn't my daughter I'd be dating her" and when she was 16 "Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?" and “You know who’s one of the great beauties of the world, according to everybody? And I helped create her. Ivanka." and “My daughter, Ivanka. She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body. She made a lot money as a model—a tremendous amount.” and "Yeah, she's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father . . ." and that he kisses her "with every chance I get”?

That's gotta be the one you're talking about.

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Is the #No. 1 pervert the former us president who answered the question "what do you have in common with your daughter?" with "sex"?

And has called his daughter "voluptuous " and "a piece of ass" and "if she wasn't my daughter I'd be dating her" and when she was 16 "Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?" and “You know who’s one of the great beauties of the world, according to everybody? And I helped create her. Ivanka." and “My daughter, Ivanka. She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body. She made a lot money as a model—a tremendous amount.” and "Yeah, she's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father . . ." and that he kisses her "with every chance I get”?

That's gotta be the one you're talking about.

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I'd have thought they'd be visiting France not the UK if your quotes are correct.

Awful sadly paid by us the taxpayer so many atrrogrant overpaid people thinking thier beyond the law it goes back.a long way ..

Sell it

Why didn't mother go to the police?
The only answer I can think of is Money!
The offender is disgusting but the mother isn't much better, calculating at least.

https://newstars.edu.vn/who-is-the-b...y-and-scandal/

It's good that some BBC presenters who have been innocently dragged into this are suing the twitter users who have incorrectly named them.

Endless.

From Savile to Schofield - theTV legends who fell from grace https://mol.im/a/12279009 via https://dailym.ai/android

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Awful sadly paid by us the taxpayer so many atrrogrant overpaid people thinking thier beyond the law it goes back.a long way ..

Sell it

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You silly tit

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Endless.

From Savile to Schofield - theTV legends who fell from grace https://mol.im/a/12279009 via https://dailym.ai/android

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Feck me .....daily mail

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Endless.

From Savile to Schofield - theTV legends who fell from grace https://mol.im/a/12279009 via https://dailym.ai/android

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Saville was a paedophile in addition to being a sex offender

What the feck society do you inhabit where a man like schofield who may or may not be particularly pleasant in character is thrown in with a serial sex offender as the same ?

It's because he's homosexual

Isn't it ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Saville was a paedophile in addition to being a sex offender

What the feck society do you inhabit where a man like schofield who may or may not be particularly pleasant in character is thrown in with a serial sex offender as the same ?

It's because he's homosexual

Isn't it ?

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Take a breath and examine how many presenters charged and jailed word for the BBC over the decades they do like a cover up and we dont know half of it ...... got feck all to do with Dail Mail or Tory Paranoia its about disgusting men in privileged positions sadly working at the alleged flagship called the BBC

Socialist rag

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...d-sex-26445489

Martin Bashir: Inquiry criticises BBC over 'deceitful' Diana interview , that went well

The former broadcaster Stuart Hall has been released from jail after serving half of his sentence for sexual abuse.

The It's a Knockout presenter was imprisoned in 2013 after admitting indecently assaulting 13 girls - one as young as nine - between 1967 and 1985.

His sentence was extended in 2014 when he pleaded guilty to two counts of indecently assaulting a teenage girl.

Its a haven of disgrace

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Take a breath and examine how many presenters charged and jailed word for the BBC over the decades they do like a cover up and we dont know half of it ...... got feck all to do with Dail Mail or Tory Paranoia its about disgusting men in privileged positions sadly working at the alleged flagship called the BBC

Socialist rag

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...d-sex-26445489

Martin Bashir: Inquiry criticises BBC over 'deceitful' Diana interview , that went well

The former broadcaster Stuart Hall has been released from jail after serving half of his sentence for sexual abuse.

The It's a Knockout presenter was imprisoned in 2013 after admitting indecently assaulting 13 girls - one as young as nine - between 1967 and 1985.

His sentence was extended in 2014 when he pleaded guilty to two counts of indecently assaulting a teenage girl.

Its a haven of disgrace

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And look at the thousands of other presenters that they have had over the years that weren’t or aren’t sex predators.

Is Life On Mars trying to claim some spluttering moral high ground in this thread?

Hypocrisy at it's finest. Sickening.

I well remember his disgusting comments about the teenage victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Andrew Windsor.