Just stop oil

People trying to go about their business are blocked by these eco-fascists. Well no different to paedophiles being allowed to run rife, if the law doesn't stop them, then people and vigilantes will take matters into their own hands. It isn't ideal. But something has to give.

Political views are to be fought via the ballot box, not by the Dick Turpin ransom mentality of picketing and disrupting people's lives. Most people don't agree with them and their silly views and so don't appreciate being blocked, bullied, obstructed and held to ransom by these wanna-bees, never-were's, droputs, gamma / omega males and a dolly mixtures of life's failures.

If a selfish scumbag holds up a city, and some poor pregnant woman is blocked from doing what she wants to do, then the other half was well within his rights to teach the little scrote a lesson. Feel the wrath of a chunky bicep, son. Now wake up, grow a pair of balls, and understand that the world does not revolve around your simpleton world views and narky politics and more sensible people disagree. Disagreement is what adult politics is about. It's time to mature. Not ideal, but sometimes, you need to crack an egg (or a jaw) to make an omelette.

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

People trying to go about their business are blocked by these eco-fascists. Well no different to paedophiles being allowed to run rife, if the law doesn't stop them, then people and vigilantes will take matters into their own hands. It isn't ideal. But something has to give.

Political views are to be fought via the ballot box, not by the Dick Turpin ransom mentality of picketing and disrupting people's lives. Most people don't agree with them and their silly views and so don't appreciate being blocked, bullied, obstructed and held to ransom by these wanna-bees, never-were's, droputs, gamma / omega males and a dolly mixtures of life's failures.

If a selfish scumbag holds up a city, and some poor pregnant woman is blocked from doing what she wants to do, then the other half was well within his rights to teach the little scrote a lesson. Feel the wrath of a chunky bicep, son. Now wake up, grow a pair of balls, and understand that the world does not revolve around your simpleton world views and narky politics and more sensible people disagree. Disagreement is what adult politics is about. It's time to mature. Not ideal, but sometimes, you need to crack an egg (or a jaw) to make an omelette.

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Ladies And Gentlemen

That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Conservative Party

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Ladies And Gentlemen

That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Conservative Party

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Hate to disagree with you Sludge, but this was a party political broadcast on someone who has hit the nail fairly and squarely on the head.

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Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68

Hate to disagree with you Sludge, but this was a party political broadcast on someone who has hit the nail fairly and squarely on the head.

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So ‘cracking jaws’ is ok then?

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

People trying to go about their business are blocked by these eco-fascists. Well no different to paedophiles being allowed to run rife, if the law doesn't stop them, then people and vigilantes will take matters into their own hands. It isn't ideal. But something has to give.

Political views are to be fought via the ballot box, not by the Dick Turpin ransom mentality of picketing and disrupting people's lives. Most people don't agree with them and their silly views and so don't appreciate being blocked, bullied, obstructed and held to ransom by these wanna-bees, never-were's, droputs, gamma / omega males and a dolly mixtures of life's failures.

If a selfish scumbag holds up a city, and some poor pregnant woman is blocked from doing what she wants to do, then the other half was well within his rights to teach the little scrote a lesson. Feel the wrath of a chunky bicep, son. Now wake up, grow a pair of balls, and understand that the world does not revolve around your simpleton world views and narky politics and more sensible people disagree. Disagreement is what adult politics is about. It's time to mature. Not ideal, but sometimes, you need to crack an egg (or a jaw) to make an omelette.

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Absolute bollocks. These people are heroes.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

I wonder if the obsessiveness of Vince has alienated some players and supporters - the players eat vegan food, even taking it away with them. At the end of the day it's a football club with normal blokes and normal appetites. Methinks the constant preaching and self-praising may not be going down too well with some..

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Can’t comment about players but FGR have a unique fan base, having risen from County football, thru non-league, it’s a family oriented fan base, with older fans having been there for decades and younger fans joining in the last decade. They don’t have the same percentage of normal bloke supporters as other clubs (I.e 30-50 year olds are not as prevalent as in most clubs). I do think that the JSO involvement is stretching their trust in him.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Ladies And Gentlemen

That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Conservative Party

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Judging by that, I’d have said that the Conservatives were far too wimpish for him.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

So ‘cracking jaws’ is ok then?

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I look at this way, I take my elderly 88 year old mother to a lot of hospital and doctors appointments etc etc. etc. If these muppets stopped me in any way shape or form for getting her to an appointment on time, then yes, I probably would get out of the car and 'crack jaws'. I'm 64 years old and not prone to violence and haven't a criminal record in any way shape or form. However, these brain dead imbeciles have got to realise that they are doing far more harm to people than good. Even normally placid people like myself can raise to anger if provoked. And these fascists sure know how to provoke.

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Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68

I look at this way, I take my elderly 88 year old mother to a lot of hospital and doctors appointments etc etc. etc. If these muppets stopped me in any way shape or form for getting her to an appointment on time, then yes, I probably would get out of the car and 'crack jaws'. I'm 64 years old and not prone to violence and haven't a criminal record in any way shape or form. However, these brain dead imbeciles have got to realise that they are doing far more harm to people than good. Even normally placid people like myself can raise to anger if provoked. And these fascists sure know how to provoke.

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Best of health to your Mam:thumbup: But should that scenario happen, bang goes your clean record at 64 years of age.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Best of health to your Mam:thumbup: But should that scenario happen, bang goes your clean record at 64 years of age.

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He might well feel it's a price worth paying.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Best of health to your Mam:thumbup: But should that scenario happen, bang goes your clean record at 64 years of age.

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So tough luck if somebody misses their appointment and dies because of it?

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Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68

I look at this way, I take my elderly 88 year old mother to a lot of hospital and doctors appointments etc etc. etc. If these muppets stopped me in any way shape or form for getting her to an appointment on time, then yes, I probably would get out of the car and 'crack jaws'. I'm 64 years old and not prone to violence and haven't a criminal record in any way shape or form. However, these brain dead imbeciles have got to realise that they are doing far more harm to people than good. Even normally placid people like myself can raise to anger if provoked. And these fascists sure know how to provoke.

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you would physically assault someone if they made you and your mother late for a doctor's appointment?

does that just apply to Just stop oil, or would it apply to people who stall their car at the lights or people who take too long in the queue at Gregg's too?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

does that just apply to Just stop oil, or would it apply to people who stall their car at the lights or people who take too long in the queue at Gregg's too?

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What a ridiculous comparison, in both of those examples the outcome is not premeditated.

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Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68

The reason why this chap attacked this Just Stop Oil Fascist:


A Just Stop Oil activist was punched to the floor by the partner of a pregnant woman after a car crash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gewhsJ8HHEI

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The accident was caused by the vehicle trying to change lanes and was hit by another car, nothing to do with protesters, just poor observation by the driver. He then took it out on the protester, just a simple street thug who cannot control his temper.

Just remember folks that the suffragettes were treated exactly the same during the their protests, They were assalted in the streets by bystanders, beaten up by the police, jailed and forced feed when on hunger strike. Today they are treated as heroes.

They were protesting for the right for women to vote. JSO are protestesting against the oil companies denial of global warning and their efforts to keep it off the agenda by spending vast fortunes on climate denial. You may not like their methods but at least they have the balls to stand up for what they believe in. I think in the future people will look back and elevate them to the same level as the suffragettes.

Some of the mental gymnastics in this thread would surely win a gold medal at the Olympics :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Best of health to your Mam:thumbup: But should that scenario happen, bang goes your clean record at 64 years of age.

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or your foot could accidentally slip on the accelerator............

The most striking thing about Just Stop Oil is that the public don't support them. They aren't achieving what they set out to do. Pissing people off is not winning them around, and that is really important to do as the wider topic is critical

The most ironic thing about Just Stop Oil is we did the planet would grind to halt as oil supports millions of mechanisms and manufacturers, without it we'd walk around naked, not have appliances, books , newspapers, basically nothing as manufacturers would grind to halt .

Just For Oil are just another politcal financed group created to cause turmoil.

Sadly they are as poster above rightly states damaged a decent protest and concern, as with most things of this size sensibility and planning is needed, not action that puts peoples lives and jobs at risk .

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Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68

I look at this way, I take my elderly 88 year old mother to a lot of hospital and doctors appointments etc etc. etc. If these muppets stopped me in any way shape or form for getting her to an appointment on time, then yes, I probably would get out of the car and 'crack jaws'. I'm 64 years old and not prone to violence and haven't a criminal record in any way shape or form. However, these brain dead imbeciles have got to realise that they are doing far more harm to people than good. Even normally placid people like myself can raise to anger if provoked. And these fascists sure know how to provoke.

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Depending on the circumstances I can understand and in some cases sympathise with people angry and frustrated with Just Stop Oil protests - especially if the inconvenience slips into something more serious.

But please don’t call them fascists. They aren’t fascists. The term fascist should always be used to describe a particular set of beliefs and behaviours, not used as a casual insult - however annoyed you are. There are real fascists out there - a lot of them - and they make JSO protestors look like a Barbie Hen Party (with the politics to match).

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

The most striking thing about Just Stop Oil is that the public don't support them. They aren't achieving what they set out to do. Pissing people off is not winning them around, and that is really important to do as the wider topic is critical

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There has been instances of protesters being picked up and placed on the pavement or even carried off a sport’s pitch, I would say that that’s a touch more acceptable than clubbing a person to the deck then sticking the boot into them.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

The most striking thing about Just Stop Oil is that the public don't support them. They aren't achieving what they set out to do. Pissing people off is not winning them around, and that is really important to do as the wider topic is critical

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That is your opinion. From casual observation 7 out of 10 people in this country are either extremely clever or totally feckin stupid. The good news is we are going to find out soon enough, but if the 7 out of 10 turn out to be the ones who are totally feckin stupid, the damage done will be irreversible.

Everything people are saying about Just Stop Oil the same was said about the civil rights movement, the suffragettes and basically anyone who protested for any sort of improvement.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

The most ironic thing about Just Stop Oil is we did the planet would grind to halt as oil supports millions of mechanisms and manufacturers, without it we'd walk around naked, not have appliances, books , newspapers, basically nothing as manufacturers would grind to halt .

Just For Oil are just another politcal financed group created to cause turmoil.

Sadly they are as poster above rightly states damaged a decent protest and concern, as with most things of this size sensibility and planning is needed, not action that puts peoples lives and jobs at risk .

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Walking around naked is wonderful, you should try it and let it all hang out.

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Originally Posted by Doucas

Everything people are saying about Just Stop Oil the same was said about the civil rights movement, the suffragettes and basically anyone who protested for any sort of improvement.

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No it isn't. And those protests were for the right to vote and for the right not to be discriminated against because you were born black. Totally different scenarios

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

No it isn't. And those protests were for the right to vote and for the right not to be discriminated against because you were born black. Totally different scenarios

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Jimbo, they are both protest groups.

Is Keyser Size your cousin? She/he/they appear to be a more educated, erudite version of you.

I would love to revisit this thread if they blocked all the Railway lines and roads into stadiums, and then chained themselves to the turnstiles so people couldn't even walk in, for the season's 10 home and away games.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

There has been instances of protesters being picked up and placed on the pavement or even carried off a sport’s pitch, I would say that that’s a touch more acceptable than clubbing a person to the deck then sticking the boot into them.

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I remember a couple of years ago some other green-related protesters sat down on the M6 and delayed traffic for a few hours. People missed planes, children missed their family holidays, people missed hospital appointments. But the saddest was a lady whose father was dying in hospital and she had been called by the nurse that he didn't have long. She was rushing up north to see him before he died. Suffice to say she didn't make it but would have done so without the 'protesters' stopping traffic.
These are selfish, arrogant upper class twats. If I were in front of the traffic I wouldn't have given them a kicking, I'd have drive over them..

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

I would love to revisit this thread if they blocked all the Railway lines and roads into stadiums, and then chained themselves to the turnstiles so people couldn't even walk in, for the season's 10 home and away games.

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Luckily there’s 23 home and away games :hehe:

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Originally Posted by az city

Jimbo, they are both protest groups.

Is Keyser Size your cousin? She/he/they appear to be a more educated, erudite version of you.

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They are, but going about it in very different ways, and fighting for very different causes. In the first two cases they are in effect fighting for the right to process.

In Just Stop Oil's case, they have that right but they don't use it. They think they can just disrupt everyone's lives anyway. Probably because mummy or daddy never said no to them growing up?

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Originally Posted by Doucas

Everything people are saying about Just Stop Oil the same was said about the civil rights movement, the suffragettes and basically anyone who protested for any sort of improvement.

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That's not actually true. Let's say you have two groups, Group A which consists of 7 out of every 10 people who think they are right, and Group B which consists of 3 out of every 10 people who think they are right

If a real or imagined disaster appeared on the horizon, and Group A consent to a particular course of action by virtue of being the majority, then both Group A and Group B will be hoping that Group A is right and Group B is wrong. But if Group A is wrong and it was actually an imagined disaster, it would make no difference if Group B was right because it would be too late to stop the hugely negative consequences of blindly following Group A.

In essence, what I am saying is you need to have a very robust debate between Group A and Group B before making any decisions that could result in a catastrophic consequence for mankind, i.e. what would happen if Group B are right and Group A are wrong?

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

I would love to revisit this thread if they blocked all the Railway lines and roads into stadiums, and then chained themselves to the turnstiles so people couldn't even walk in, for the season's 10 home and away games.

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Let them block railway lines.
I'm sure train drivers will be able to bring ther trains to a halt in time

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

I would love to revisit this thread if they blocked all the Railway lines and roads into stadiums, and then chained themselves to the turnstiles so people couldn't even walk in, for the season's 10 home and away games.

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In hindsight, the last two home games against the Jack's would've been welcome.

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

In hindsight, the last two home games against the Jack's would've been welcome.

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:hehe: I was thinking that

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Originally Posted by Canton Kev

Luckily there’s 23 home and away games :hehe:

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:hehe: yes I missed out on the FIRST ten .................

There wouldn't be any protesters left after ten games.

The point being a lot of people with sympathy for them wouldn't be as sympathetic if they were affected and it stopped them doing what they wanted or needed to do.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

That's not actually true. Let's say you have two groups, Group A which consists of 7 out of every 10 people who think they are right, and Group B which consists of 3 out of every 10 people who think they are right

If a real or imagined disaster appeared on the horizon, and Group A consent to a particular course of action by virtue of being the majority, then both Group A and Group B will be hoping that Group A is right and Group B is wrong. But if Group A is wrong and it was actually an imagined disaster, it would make no difference if Group B was right because it would be too late to stop the hugely negative consequences of blindly following Group A.

In essence, what I am saying is you need to have a very robust debate between Group A and Group B before making any decisions that could result in a catastrophic consequence for mankind, i.e. what would happen if Group B are right and Group A are wrong?

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https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/public-hu...climate-change

There are two things here. Scientific evidence and people's perception/opinion.

In the first instance experts who have conducted peer reviewed studies almost universally agree the case for man-made climate change. As the study above shows however only 70% of the UK's population accept that.

It is not clear on what basis the almost two in 10 who think it's false base their perception on. Perhaps they think they have a greater gift than others and it fills them with a sense of self-worth, or perhaps loads of You Tube videos and tweets bombard them with supportive contrary views when they power up their phones in the morning which they accept and regurgitate without a moments hesitation.

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

In hindsight, the last two home games against the Jack's would've been welcome.

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https://www.skysports.com/football/n...rse-onto-pitch

Perhaps we should have these guys on standby, just in case!

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/public-hu...climate-change

There are two things here. Scientific evidence and people's perception/opinion.

In the first instance experts who have conducted peer reviewed studies almost universally agree the case for man-made climate change. As the study above shows however only 70% of the UK's population accept that.

It is not clear on what basis the almost two in 10 who think it's false base their perception on. Perhaps they think they have a greater gift than others and it fills them with a sense of self-worth, or perhaps loads of You Tube videos and tweets bombard them with supportive contrary views when they power up their phones in the morning which they accept and regurgitate without a moments hesitation.

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You forgot to mention the third thing, namely reality. What happens if the scientists and 7 out of every 10 people are wrong? Don't forget the covid vaccines were declared 100% safe and effective according to the boffins, and that wasn't true.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

You forgot to mention the third thing, namely reality. What happens if the scientists and 7 out of every 10 people are wrong? Don't forget the covid vaccines were declared 100% safe and effective according to the boffins, and that wasn't true.

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Were Covid vaccines declared 100% safe.?

Im not saying you are wrong but I dont recall this as most medications dont declare this. Always a chance of a reaction.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

That's not actually true. Let's say you have two groups, Group A which consists of 7 out of every 10 people who think they are right, and Group B which consists of 3 out of every 10 people who think they are right

If a real or imagined disaster appeared on the horizon, and Group A consent to a particular course of action by virtue of being the majority, then both Group A and Group B will be hoping that Group A is right and Group B is wrong. But if Group A is wrong and it was actually an imagined disaster, it would make no difference if Group B was right because it would be too late to stop the hugely negative consequences of blindly following Group A.

In essence, what I am saying is you need to have a very robust debate between Group A and Group B before making any decisions that could result in a catastrophic consequence for mankind, i.e. what would happen if Group B are right and Group A are wrong?

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Give me some of what you are on

Wtf