Steve Coogan As Jimmy Saville

I thought it was done well. Coogan was exceptional but I am not sure it tells us anything new. He was clever in making friends with people who could protect him through their powerful positions, many of course without realising what savile was doing or how he was using them.

Thatcher tried to get him knighted loads of times, she was a strong savile advocate, as were the royal family. Savile was called in by the queen to provide marriage counselling when Charles and Diana had marriage problems. Diana rebuked it and called Savile creepy. The bbc didn't include that. I can't imagine a worse counsellor.

From a child protection perspective, I thought they did a very sensitive job of revealing the abuse in scenes. Often those kinds of scenes can in themselves be exploitative. Apparently the survivors of saviles abuse were fully involved in the making of the program and provided with counselling and support.

As for the BBC doing it.. I think they had to.. Otherwise someone else would have done it and would have been much harsher on the bbc. But everyone needs to take collective responsibility.

Sadly many powerful people who abuse children are still in situ. The ex-officer who finally exposed savile claims he's been trying to get the CPS to prosecute a household name for year, but the powerful continue to block it.

It seems we've learned nothing.

I'm halfway through the long shadow. It's a tough watch. The police.. Wow. What utter wankers.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

BBC make a drama about a man they employed and make revenue from it absolutely disgusting, the victims families must be horrified.

Bet the Newsnight incident was down played .

Some actors would do anything for fame and fortune.

Shame on you Cogan and the BBC .

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The BBC didn't make it ITV Studios did. The BBC just broadcast it.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

BBC make a drama about a man they employed and make revenue from it absolutely disgusting, the victims families must be horrified.

Bet the Newsnight incident was down played .

Some actors would do anything for fame and fortune.

Shame on you Cogan and the BBC .

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So the rest of Penarth get off Scot free then:shrug:

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Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird

I thought it was done well. Coogan was exceptional but I am not sure it tells us anything new. He was clever in making friends with people who could protect him through their powerful positions, many of course without realising what savile was doing or how he was using them.

Thatcher tried to get him knighted loads of times, she was a strong savile advocate, as were the royal family. Savile was called in by the queen to provide marriage counselling when Charles and Diana had marriage problems. Diana rebuked it and called Savile creepy. The bbc didn't include that. I can't imagine a worse counsellor.

From a child protection perspective, I thought they did a very sensitive job of revealing the abuse in scenes. Often those kinds of scenes can in themselves be exploitative. Apparently the survivors of saviles abuse were fully involved in the making of the program and provided with counselling and support.

As for the BBC doing it.. I think they had to.. Otherwise someone else would have done it and would have been much harsher on the bbc. But everyone needs to take collective responsibility.

Sadly many powerful people who abuse children are still in situ. The ex-officer who finally exposed savile claims he's been trying to get the CPS to prosecute a household name for year, but the powerful continue to block it.

It seems we've learned nothing.

I'm halfway through the long shadow. It's a tough watch. The police.. Wow. What utter wankers.

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Good point about the stick the BBC would have got if the programme had been aired by another channel.

However as someone who tends to back the BBC against their modern day culture war critics, it's hard to come up with a defence for them when it came to how Savile's awful behaviour was tolerated by people who must have had suspicions, at the very least, about him.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

So the rest of Penarth get off Scot free then:shrug:

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Took 3 read backs, but I got there :hehe::wave:

You could tell Saville was at the very least a creep just by watching him on TOTP. It was obvious to me when I was just a boy.

As someone who's boyhood heroes included Gary Glitter and Rolf Harris, I can at least claim that I never liked that ****.

Anyone walking around in a gold effect shiney sweat suit needs a leathering

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Anyone walking around in a gold effect shiney sweat suit needs a leathering

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lol

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

You could tell Saville was at the very least a creep just by watching him on TOTP. It was obvious to me when I was just a boy.

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It was so obvious he was a wrong un, God knows how he got away with it, especially at Stoke Mandeville and the BBC!

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

It was so obvious he was a wrong un, God knows how he got away with it, especially at Stoke Mandeville and the BBC!

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It was well known in Yorkshire he was a wrong in for decades and decades, speaks volumes really. People were afraid to speak up. Happens today if it’s against the narrative.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

It was well known in Yorkshire he was a wrong in for decades and decades, speaks volumes really. People were afraid to speak up. Happens today if it’s against the narrative.

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Sounds like your are ITK. Anyone we know?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Sounds like your are ITK. Anyone we know?

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In the know about what ?

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

In the know about what ?

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Happens today if it’s against the narrative.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Happens today if it’s against the narrative.

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I’m sure you can can work that out.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I’m sure you can can work that out.

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There used to be someone who posted on here when challenged to explain what they meant became quite obtuse. :sherlock:

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

There used to be someone who posted on here when challenged to explain what they meant became quite obtuse. :sherlock:

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Sounds like you’re getting confused with yourself :hehe:

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Anyone walking around in a gold effect shiney sweat suit needs a leathering

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I mean if they were young and had cool hair and talent, some people could get away with it. I grew up in the '70s he was already a creepy old man then. The hair? WTF?

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

I mean if they were young and had cool hair and talent, some people could get away with it. I grew up in the '70s he was already a creepy old man then. The hair? WTF?

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Peter Stringfellow was another very creepy old man but not a paedophile obviously

Same sort of dress sense though

I went to a job interview in Merthyr once around '93. As I walked through the town centre I saw a bloke standing at the bus stop in a multi coloured shellsuit, patient leather shoes and a shirt and tie. I made up my mind before I even got into the interview I didn't want to work there.

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

I went to a job interview in Merthyr once around '93. As I walked through the town centre I saw a bloke standing at the bus stop in a multi coloured shellsuit, patient leather shoes and a shirt and tie. I made up my mind before I even got into the interview I didn't want to work there.

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Blokes like Saville and Stringfellow wore creepy clothes with saggy skin on show

Very odd

Saville looked like he never washed his hair

He was apparently very good friends with some high ranking south Yorkshire police, as was Cyril Smith the MP, who officials turned a blind eye at as well as Saville. There are other documentaries available - other than the bbc / itv's effort - which in my opinion should not have been made into a drama series. Just keep it as a documentary.

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

I went to a job interview in Merthyr once around '93. As I walked through the town centre I saw a bloke standing at the bus stop in a multi coloured shellsuit, patient leather shoes and a shirt and tie. I made up my mind before I even got into the interview I didn't want to work there.

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Inpatient or outpatient?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Inpatient or outpatient?

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Typo. Care in the community though probably.

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Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost

Typo. Care in the community though probably.

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We all make typos, old fruit. :-)

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

We all make typos, old fruit. :-)

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I don't, and i'll not be insulted with the stigma of making a 'Typo' Mine are fully blown spelling mistakes.

I just watched the first episode. **** me that was hard going. Not sure I want to watch the rest.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

We all make typos, old fruit. :-)

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It's patently obvious