Nottingham Panthers Tragedy

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Originally Posted by CopenhagenBlue

Exactly. Impeding, not intending to seriously injure or kill. This is a tragic accident.

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I doubt anyone believes the player Matt Petgrave had any intention to hurt Adam Johnson: he was unfortunate to be the instigator of a tragic accident while performing his role as an opposing player in an Ice Hockey match.

However, he is open to a charge of Involuntary Manslaughter. As the term implies there is a recognition that there is no question of intent but if it's accepted he acted irresponsibly and/or negligently in performing the fatal manoeuvre he could be found guilty. Much might hinge on what the opinion of Ice Hockey experts might be regarding the appropriateness or otherwise of his play at the time.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I doubt anyone believes the player Matt Petgrave had any intention to hurt Adam Johnson: he was unfortunate to be the instigator of a tragic accident while performing his role as an opposing player in an Ice Hockey match.

However, he is open to a charge of Involuntary Manslaughter. As the term implies there is a recognition that there is no question of intent but if it's accepted he acted irresponsibly and/or negligently in performing the fatal manoeuvre he could be found guilty. Much might hinge on what the opinion of Ice Hockey experts might be regarding the appropriateness or otherwise of his play at the time.

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I'm glad it's not for me to decide. If it was I'd have to say he clearly raises his leg with the intention of making contact with Johnson in some form, although obviously not in the way it happened. So I'd say involuntary manslaughter sounds about right. But, as I say, I'm glad I'm not having to make that call other than on a football message board.

I understand it is possible to see the incident but I couldn't

I can't imagine those close to the situation on the ice or in the arena being able to deal with that , it sounds absolutely horrific

It is obvious he did not intend for the results that happened but he did intend to hurt him. Where that can be argued on the initial kick It cannot be argued on the second kick.

A sports field does not allow you to act above the law and whilst he did not intend to kill him he has done and he must face accountability.

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Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad

It is obvious he did not intend for the results that happened but he did intend to hurt him. Where that can be argued on the initial kick It cannot be argued on the second kick.

A sports field does not allow you to act above the law and whilst he did not intend to kill him he has done and he must face accountability.

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That's always puzzled me about football. Where someone makes a malicious challenge on another player how come it doesn't end up as an assault charge? Or maybe it does sometimes? I'm not talking about punches or head butts necessarily. Keane on Haaland for example? That's a straightforward assault isn't it?