What good has Welsh Labour done for us?

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

How can anyone defend this?

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OK

Wales is a poor country , has poor health and education outcomes despite investment

Scotland and Ireland and England also have poor education outcomes but better than Wales

Wales performs better than America

There you go

support for Drakeford /Welsh labour has fallen over the last 3 months according to this report

think the 20mph debacle will prove to be a major issue at the next election for the party

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...mmets-28262230

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

support for Drakeford /Welsh labour has fallen over the last 3 months according to this report

think the 20mph debacle will prove to be a major issue at the next election for the party

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...mmets-28262230

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Most people in Wales vote Labour - so they obviously want and like what they get from Labour. I had a mate of a similar view talking about Thatcher and the mines - he seemed somewhat shocked when it was pointed out to him that Harold Wilson shut twice has many mines than Thatcher did - he had no words after that revelation.
It was also a shock to him that both Govts stopped the tax payer assistance that was given to the coal board.

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Originally Posted by pipster

Most people in Wales vote Labour - so they obviously want and like what they get from Labour. I had a mate of a similar view talking about Thatcher and the mines - he seemed somewhat shocked when it was pointed out to him that Harold Wilson shut twice has many mines than Thatcher did - he had no words after that revelation.
It was also a shock to him that both Govts stopped the tax payer assistance that was given to the coal board.

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Granted the lad who wrote it wasn't exactly impartial.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...closed-1844712

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Originally Posted by pipster

Most people in Wales vote Labour - so they obviously want and like what they get from Labour.

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I doubt they do, but it’s better than the alternative. Unless that alternative is independence.

Labour (42%), Conservatives (20%), Plaid Cymru (15%), Lib Dem (7%) and Reform (12%). It's not exactly a ringing endorsement of the Tories.
re the 20 mph.It's difficult to say the 20 mph has saved a life,because if the accident didn't happen we'll never know.
I saw a squirrel cross the road ,the woman in front was observing the speed limit.Hence the squirrel lived.
What if it was a kid crossing the road. if a driver hit your kid ,and was doing 30 in a 20 limit area you'd soon start shouting you've killed
my kid.

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Originally Posted by stevo

I doubt they do, but it’s better than the alternative. Unless that alternative is independence.

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They obviously do has Labour have been in power for 26 years... so people in Wales must like being thick as the education results tell us, they must like having to wait the longest for cancer treatment and ambulances, the the fact that Labour have somehow over spent 900 millions pounds of the annual budget and have now cut every single dept apart from climate change. We dont need any more roads and are happy about congestion charges, tourist taxes and general anti business policies.

Labour policy appears to be keep them thick so they wont question us - and fair play as a tactic that appears to be working

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Originally Posted by pipster

They obviously do has Labour have been in power for 26 years... so people in Wales must like being thick as the education results tell us, they must like having to wait the longest for cancer treatment and ambulances, the the fact that Labour have somehow over spent 900 millions pounds of the annual budget and have now cut every single dept apart from climate change. We dont need any more roads and are happy about congestion charges, tourist taxes and general anti business policies.

Labour policy appears to be keep them thick so they wont question us - and fair play as a tactic that appears to be working

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Whilst plenty of mistakes have been made by labour and drakeford should have resigned a long time ago I think it's great that it annoys you that they are in power

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Whilst plenty of mistakes have been made by labour and drakeford should have resigned a long time ago I think it's great that it annoys you that they are in power

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Nan mate - it doesnt annoy me - that's democracy - something I accept. Pity you cant seem to do the same.

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Originally Posted by pipster

Nan mate - it doesnt annoy me - that's democracy - something I accept. Pity you cant seem to do the same.

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Of course it does

I think it's great

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Originally Posted by stevo

Free prescriptions is one of their worst decisions.The result is that many people are now using up GP appointment slots in order to get a prescription for treatment that is readily available over the counter in a pharmacy. This of course is placing unnecessary demand on an already broken system.

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Exactly, people go to dr to get a prescription for paracetamol, which costs the NHS stupid money, rather than buy 24 for 50p or whatever it is in Lidl.

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Originally Posted by pipster

Most people in Wales vote Labour - so they obviously want and like what they get from Labour. I had a mate of a similar view talking about Thatcher and the mines - he seemed somewhat shocked when it was pointed out to him that Harold Wilson shut twice has many mines than Thatcher did - he had no words after that revelation.
It was also a shock to him that both Govts stopped the tax payer assistance that was given to the coal board.

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And Harold Wilson made the Aberfan fund pay for the clean up of the disaster, horrible c@nt.

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Originally Posted by pipster

Nan mate - it doesnt annoy me - that's democracy - something I accept. Pity you cant seem to do the same.

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Nothing changes anyway….what was so great under Labour when Blair won? Nothing….a year or two of thinking a change is good but if anything the uk has plummeted since the millennium…..nothing will ever change in wales, it’s a poor area a bit like Cornwall/ West Country, heavily reliant on tourism yet doing all it can to pi$$ Tourists off from coming. Get yourself some private healthcare as the nhs here is phucked.

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Originally Posted by goats

Nothing changes anyway….what was so great under Labour when Blair won? Nothing….a year or two of thinking a change is good but if anything the uk has plummeted since the millennium…..nothing will ever change in wales, it’s a poor area a bit like Cornwall/ West Country, heavily reliant on tourism yet doing all it can to pi$$ Tourists off from coming. Get yourself some private healthcare as the nhs here is phucked.

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You think the NHS is doing OK in England ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You think the NHS is doing OK in England ?

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Not everywhere, but as an example it’s a lot better over the bridge. Got friends who live in north Devon, Bristol and Cornwall and they don’t need to wait months for a hospital app, plus they have the drop in centres, no doubt they can’t do them here because they will be inundated and overrun

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Originally Posted by goats

Not everywhere, but as an example it’s a lot better over the bridge. Got friends who live in north Devon, Bristol and Cornwall and they don’t need to wait months for a hospital app, plus they have the drop in centres, no doubt they can’t do them here because they will be inundated and overrun

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i,ve mentioned this above the walk in centres are great . Would take lots of pressure off GP's in Wales and wait times for patients

used them in the west midlands with an urban population of 3 million . if they could work there they could work here

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Originally Posted by goats

Not everywhere, but as an example it’s a lot better over the bridge. Got friends who live in north Devon, Bristol and Cornwall and they don’t need to wait months for a hospital app, plus they have the drop in centres, no doubt they can’t do them here because they will be inundated and overrun

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It's not a lot better

In fact today they announced record waiting times in England

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Originally Posted by cityhammer

Exactly, people go to dr to get a prescription for paracetamol, which costs the NHS stupid money, rather than buy 24 for 50p or whatever it is in Lidl.

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This. Got a neighbour who boasts about claiming paracetamol, rather than spending 41p for a pack at Sainsburys. Costs the NHS around a tenner.

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

parking at welsh hospitals free up to 4 hours

been a godsend for me the last 6 weeks !

on the flip side the english healthcare is much better and the walk in centres over there was a godsend for me when working in england

we should set up walk in centres in Wales . No need for booking appointments

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just looking at the parking costs at NHS England for patients /staff for 2022/23 .What a scandal

Would have cost me a small fortune this year if I lived over the border the amount of times i've been up to the heath this year !

https://news.sky.com/story/price-of-...%20every%20day.

I'm amazed that a G.P. would prescribe paracetamol on a routine basis.

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Originally Posted by Gofer Blue

I'm amazed that a G.P. would prescribe paracetamol on a routine basis.

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Lots of people with chronic pain are on a regular 2 tablets , 4 times a day dose of paracetamol

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Originally Posted by Gofer Blue

I'm amazed that a G.P. would prescribe paracetamol on a routine basis.

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When you’re in a high-pressure job and stressed to the max and faced with demanding patients, sometimes you’ve got to take the path of least resistance.

Not sure if you’re aware but Welsh Labour are proposing to bring back the Severn Bridge tolls in an effort to reduce the number of cars coming into South Wales in favour of more sustainable travel. Page 42.

they haven't imposed the income tax levels our friends up north have

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Originally Posted by Gofer Blue

I'm amazed that a G.P. would prescribe paracetamol on a routine basis.

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Me too

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Lots of people with chronic pain are on a regular 2 tablets , 4 times a day dose of paracetamol

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Which they could easily fund themselves

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Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927

Which they could easily fund themselves

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Dr's like to prescribe paracetamol to people in chronic pain to try and ensure they are taking it regularly

Those on regular delivery of medication can therefore be monitored

they saved a newt by not building the newport py pass

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I think the free prescriptions are alright. Thats about it.

Tonight, on a night out, I told my friends from England that I couldn't get a doctor's appointment until January in Birchgrove surgery in Cardiff. They laughed. Thats the reality. Being laughed at.

What the hell do we get from it?

Anything?

Anything?

What do we get from it?

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Slowest speeds, worst roads, most closed shops, longest NHS queues and longest A&E waiting times and ruined the country.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Slowest speeds, worst roads, most closed shops, longest NHS queues and longest A&E waiting times and ruined the country.

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Just come back from the dentist, I’ve had to go private with a new dentist as my old one was no longer allowing kids free treatment.

Apparently the dentist system is so bad literally hundreds of people are going straight to A and E for what was routine dental care daily throughout the my local area.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Dr's like to prescribe paracetamol to people in chronic pain to try and ensure they are taking it regularly

Those on regular delivery of medication can therefore be monitored

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Dr's can do the shopping for housebound patients too. Or would thaat be a waste of money and time?

according to the last test results they have allowed our children to be free from the bondage of education

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Originally Posted by NinianOpinion1927

Dr's can do the shopping for housebound patients too. Or would thaat be a waste of money and time?

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What is your point?

What makes me chuckle is how the Conservative voting idiots on here think it would be better under those tosspots

And that in Wales it's ever going to be a Conservative assembly government

Absolute complete arse on both counts

Not an easy one to answer is it ??

We know of nothing else other than single rule by a single party .

Yes life has changed from the tough Welsh landscape /workplace of the steel / Iron industrial age , into the cosmopolitan better world ,where folk live longer have have more that our parents /grandparents , bugger to do with Labour in Wales though .. Probably served better by Westminster via Thatcher / Blair policy making and changes .. those two changed changed the UK

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

What is your point?

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My point is that we need to prudently assign resources where needed. Prescribing paracetamol costing a small fortune is not money well spent.

they haven't introduced totally oppressive hate speech laws yet

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Not an easy one to answer is it ??

We know of nothing else other than single rule by a single party .

Yes life has changed from the tough Welsh landscape /workplace of the steel / Iron industrial age , into the cosmopolitan better world ,where folk live longer have have more that our parents /grandparents , bugger to do with Labour in Wales though .. Probably served better by Westminster via Thatcher / Blair policy making and changes .. those two changed changed the UK

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So you’re expecting the Welsh Government to change the UK? All you’ve done there is prove how limited the powers given to the WAG are/were - give Wales total independence and then they become fully responsible for what happens in Wales, until then what we’ve got is a kind of half way house with the UK Government still making so many of the major decisions.

import loads of doctors

What good the Welsh Labour government has done is keep the tories out of power

I will vote for that