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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Listen sonny
Give it to me straight
A 1.5 kW oil radiator
Or a 1.5 kW halogen heater
What's the best way of cheaply and efficiently heating a front room
Keep it simple , I am an idiot
Cheers
It's all very simply explained for you. Why do you do this on every thread you start? Respond by calling everyone Sonny and completely ignore everyone's advice. Do you have a willy problem?
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Just turn off the heating and pop to 'Spoons for a few hours.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
That article is quoting the cost of halogen heaters at a max output 1500 Kw.
I have the halogen heater on its lowest 400 Kw setting which costs about 12p an hour - compare that with the running costs of oil filled rads and electric fires.
The electric fires and oil filled rads give CONVECTED heat. Halogen heaters give RADIANT heat and when near a person in a small room provide adequate heating for comfort at the lowest setting for the cheapest cost.
It's really very simple.
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Originally Posted by
Cyclops
That article is quoting the cost of halogen heaters at a max output 1500 Kw.
I have the halogen heater on its lowest 400 Kw setting which costs about 12p an hour - compare that with the running costs of oil filled rads and electric fires.
The electric fires and oil filled rads give CONVECTED heat. Halogen heaters give RADIANT heat and when near a person in a small room provide adequate heating for comfort at the lowest setting for the cheapest cost.
It's really very simple.
Not to me it isn't
I really don't want a halogen heater because you switch it on and that's great but once switched on the heats gone
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I calculated the cost of running our energy-efficient gas fire this morning - based on our tariff.
Asked Mrs Cyclops how much she thought it cost to use the fire an hour. Answer: ''Bout a pound''.
It's actually 22p an hour and heats the whole room cos its convected heat.
Then I checked our bill. We are £400 in credit - and last year BG refunded more than £600.
Guess we must be doing something right
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Originally Posted by
Alan Lung
It's all very simply explained for you. Why do you do this on every thread you start? Respond by calling everyone Sonny and completely ignore everyone's advice. Do you have a willy problem?
Yes
It's 9 inches
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
once switched on the heats gone
What sort of drugs/solvents are you on?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Not to me it isn't
I really don't want a halogen heater because you switch it on and that's great but once switched on the heats gone
Must apologise.
I totally misunderstood your post
I thought you were enquiring about the cost of heating.
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Originally Posted by
Cyclops
Must apologise.
I totally misunderstood your post
I thought you were enquiring about the cost of heating.
I am
What is the cheapest way to heat a smaller room if you are not switching on the central heating
The link I provided suggests oil rads are
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I am
What is the cheapest way to heat a smaller room if you are not switching on the central heating
The link I provided suggests oil rads are
#43
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VIZ top tip. feeling the cold? just set fire to your house , you'll be warm for a few hours and hey presto no more energy bills.
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Cyclops
#43
I have looked at a site comparing halogen heaters and oil filled rads and similar devices
It appears you are correct if the halogen heater is kept to 500k kW or thereabouts
So I stand corrected
I therefore intend to have a small oil based rad in my pit of sleeping death and a 500 kW halogen heater in my front room
I think I am uneasy with that naked heated element of the halogen heaters and wouldn't like to leave it on for an hour in the way I would an oil rad in my room
If you can convince me they are safe then I will get two of them
If you have a link to your low energy model then that would be appreciated as I don't want to end up in the burns unit at Morriston
Cheers
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I have looked at a site comparing halogen heaters and oil filled rads and similar devices
It appears you are correct if the halogen heater is kept to 500k kW or thereabouts
So I stand corrected
I therefore intend to have a small oil based rad in my pit of sleeping death and a 500 kW halogen heater in my front room
I think I am uneasy with that naked heated element of the halogen heaters and wouldn't like to leave it on for an hour in the way I would an oil rad in my room
If you can convince me they are safe then I will get two of them
If you have a link to your low energy model then that would be appreciated as I don't want to end up in the burns unit at Morriston
Cheers
Don't go to sleep with a portable heater turned on in your room ffs. You'll end up like Simon Weston.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I think I am uneasy with that naked heated element of the halogen heaters and wouldn't like to leave it on for an hour in the way I would an oil rad in my room
If you can convince me they are safe then I will get two of them
If you have a link to your low energy model then that would be appreciated as I don't want to end up in the burns unit at Morriston
Halogen heaters turn off if they are tipped.
When I leave the room, I always switch it off - and switch it back on for INSTANT heat when I return. It's as easy a switching the light on and off.
The only risk is getting too close to it - which is the kebab effect. Never happened to me.
I bought mine from Groupon, but they are available at several outlets. Amazon sell the 1200 Kw model for under £20
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Originally Posted by
Cyclops
Halogen heaters turn off if they are tipped.
When I leave the room, I always switch it off - and switch it back on for INSTANT heat when I return. It's as easy a switching the light on and off.
The only risk is getting too close to it - which is the kebab effect. Never happened to me.
I bought mine from Groupon, but they are available at several outlets. Amazon sell the 1200 Kw model for under £20
Brand ?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Brand ?
Oddly, I accessed Amazon and searched 'halogen heater 1200w' and the first page had this: 1200W Halogen Heater - Instant Heat With 3 Settings | Ideal For Winter - Home, Office, Living Room, Caravan, Garages | Warm Oscillating Function Watt 3 Bars, Free Standing, Resistant Base & Compact.
Talk about being spoonfed...
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Originally Posted by
Cyclops
Oddly, I accessed Amazon and searched 'halogen heater 1200w' and the first page had this: 1200W Halogen Heater - Instant Heat With 3 Settings | Ideal For Winter - Home, Office, Living Room, Caravan, Garages | Warm Oscillating Function Watt 3 Bars, Free Standing, Resistant Base & Compact.
Talk about being spoonfed...
That's very kind of you
I wouldn't want to be buying poundland quality
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
That's very kind of you
I wouldn't want to be buying poundland quality
I'm all armpit, me :-)
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Originally Posted by
Cyclops
I'm all armpit, me :-)
If my house burns down and I snuff it I will be knocking on your door
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
That's very kind of you
I wouldn't want to be buying poundland quality
Sludge has just booked a flight to Brazil to access the Amazon.
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Sludge has just booked a flight to Brazil to access the Amazon.
I don't live in Brazil, as you well know :-)
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Yes
It's 9 inches
Ha, mines 12" but I don't use it as a rule?
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lincoln blue
Ha, mines 12" but I don't use it as a rule?
Ding Dong
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lincoln blue
Ha, mines 12" but I don't use it as a rule?
Mine’s only an inch & a half:cry:………………. From the fecking floor:cheerleader:
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Isn't gas quite a bit cheaper than electricity? Or has that changed since sanctions on Russia?
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Put a jumper on and start ranting to yourself - the amount of surplus hot air you generate will keep you warm all day
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'Oil filled portable radiators' - 4 pages long, almost as long as some of the match-day threads on here.
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
'Oil filled portable radiators' - 4 pages long, almost as long as some of the match-day threads on here.
It's more interesting than what was on offer at Cardiff City Stadium today
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So I have a 12x8 shed that's going to have the YBS bubble insulation and will be boarded, what heater would work best if I was to use the shed as an office? :sherlock:
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Originally Posted by
waynekerr55
So I have a 12x8 shed that's going to have the YBS bubble insulation and will be boarded, what heater would work best if I was to use the shed as an office? :sherlock:
I am surprised you are not getting leathered on the mumbles mile after todays win !
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Originally Posted by
waynekerr55
So I have a 12x8 shed that's going to have the YBS bubble insulation and will be boarded, what heater would work best if I was to use the shed as an office? :sherlock:
Christ. Here comes a 12-pager.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I am surprised you are not getting leathered on the mumbles mile after todays win !
Ha! A bit far away from me
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waynekerr55
So I have a 12x8 shed that's going to have the YBS bubble insulation and will be boarded, what heater would work best if I was to use the shed as an office? :sherlock:
Need much more info.
Of what species of wood is the shed constructed?
What is the thickness of the insulation?
With what material are you lining the shed walls - and thickness?
Is the roof insulated?
What is the shed's pitch-angle?
On what is the floor of the shed standing?
What temperature in the shed do you require?
Will mains gas be run to the shed?
Are you concerned about any fire hazards?
Have you considered the smokeless Solo Fire Pit?
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waynekerr55
So I have a 12x8 shed that's going to have the YBS bubble insulation and will be boarded, what heater would work best if I was to use the shed as an office? :sherlock:
Not sure if this a joke or a serious post, but I will take it as serious
Did you know that the Foil Bubble insulation is the same as 60mm of rockwool loft insulation, I went with acoustic 60mm rockwool in the walls, 60 mm polystyrene in the floors and roof ( I couldnt justify the cost of PIR like Kingspan or Celotex , as the cost V u Value isnt even close ) , I then double wrapped the inside ( taping the joints ) with the Foil Bubble wrap ( like your YBS )
I then ran some " super Tuff " ( its Not armoured, but its some very thick reinforced 2.5mm T&E cable ( it actually 5mm with protection, but does fit in a plug if you take a little of the protection off as it enters the plug ) cable , then fitted a Fused spur unit ( which can be upgraded to a shed consumer unit when I have the cable connected to the house consumer unit instead of a plug ) in the mancave
Then ran a series of double sockets and 2 fused spur units around the mancave ( 6 doubles and 2 FSU, one for the heater and one for a outside socket )
then I fitted one of these
https://www.screwfix.com/p/blyss-sar...te-1500w/195jk
I went with the 1500 W ( you can get 2000 W ) as its slightly cheaper to run and I can run all the power ( with this heater included ) from the 13A fixed spur unit ( as above ) as its all under 3 KW of power *( this is the important thing if running from a plug or FSU, keep all power use under 3KW, as 3KW a cheap plug top will get warm ( as FSU connection would be safer ) from my point of view, I will always aim for under 2.5 KW
I said earlier in the thread, last week it was Minus 4 C outside and I was sat in there with a hoodie and some joggers on, when I started boxing ( in VR ) I had to take the Hoodie off, this is 5 X 3 M foot print with a 2.3 M High roof , so that gives you a idea of the heat of that heater
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The output of this panel is 1500 W.
It has only one output setting.
To estimate the hourly cost, this should be multiplied by the KWh shown on your bill.
For comparisons sake the output of a halogen heater on its lowest setting is 400 W.
So this heater at a 400 W setting is around 25% cheaper than the Blyss Saris panel heater (1500/400).
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
Not sure if this a joke or a serious post, but I will take it as serious
Did you know that the Foil Bubble insulation is the same as 60mm of rockwool loft insulation, I went with acoustic 60mm rockwool in the walls, 60 mm polystyrene in the floors and roof ( I couldnt justify the cost of PIR like Kingspan or Celotex , as the cost V u Value isnt even close ) , I then double wrapped the inside ( taping the joints ) with the Foil Bubble wrap ( like your YBS )
I then ran some " super Tuff " ( its Not armoured, but its some very thick reinforced 2.5mm T&E cable ( it actually 5mm with protection, but does fit in a plug if you take a little of the protection off as it enters the plug ) cable , then fitted a Fused spur unit ( which can be upgraded to a shed consumer unit when I have the cable connected to the house consumer unit instead of a plug ) in the mancave
Then ran a series of double sockets and 2 fused spur units around the mancave ( 6 doubles and 2 FSU, one for the heater and one for a outside socket )
then I fitted one of these
https://www.screwfix.com/p/blyss-sar...te-1500w/195jk
I went with the 1500 W ( you can get 2000 W ) as its slightly cheaper to run and I can run all the power ( with this heater included ) from the 13A fixed spur unit ( as above ) as its all under 3 KW of power *( this is the important thing if running from a plug or FSU, keep all power use under 3KW, as 3KW a cheap plug top will get warm ( as FSU connection would be safer ) from my point of view, I will always aim for under 2.5 KW
I said earlier in the thread, last week it was Minus 4 C outside and I was sat in there with a hoodie and some joggers on, when I started boxing ( in VR ) I had to take the Hoodie off, this is 5 X 3 M foot print with a 2.3 M High roof , so that gives you a idea of the heat of that heater
Deadly serious post from me. I'm going to get armoured cable to the shed and will then be able to use it both for storage and for work.
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Originally Posted by
waynekerr55
Deadly serious post from me. I'm going to get armoured cable to the shed and will then be able to use it both for storage and for work.
armoured makes sense and is the right way to do it, but costs so much, mine is protected by the RCD on the outside socket, so I felt the trade-off was ok, Ive clipped it to the wall, so its out of the way aswell
your building will be a similar size to mine, so the 1500 W will heat it decent enough
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blue matt
armoured makes sense and is the right way to do it, but costs so much, mine is protected by the RCD on the outside socket, so I felt the trade-off was ok, Ive clipped it to the wall, so its out of the way aswell
your building will be a similar size to mine, so the 1500 W will heat it decent enough
What shed did you buy? Can i view it online?
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Originally Posted by
NinianOpinion1927
What shed did you buy? Can i view it online?
I built it all from scratch, 75mm X 50mm Stud work, wrapped in building paper then Laplog Cladding ( so looks like a log cabin ), Pan tile roof sheets ( looks like a pan tiled roof, they now use these on static caravans ), then I plasterboarded the insides, Concrete base with OSB floorboard for the floor covered in LVT flooring, a 2nd hand Composite door and Frame, 3 X small UPVC windows ( they were sample window that the sales team from a local window firm had in the sales dept, they changed suppliers so I grabbed 6 of them :thumbup: ) all with as much insulation as I could justify, built a media wall for the TV and games consoles, put my old 4 seater sofa in it, when the wife allows me I will build a small bar in the corner ( but I need to get brownie points by redoing the ensuite 1st ) its a very nice space even if I say so myself
Ive built a 3 X 4 M shed, this 5 X 3 M mancave / place for kids to go with mates and make as much noise as they want , and Ive got enough Cladding and roof material to build a 4 X 3 M building ( this cant be attached to the mancave, as building regs state the max size is 15M2, so will have a small gap between ) which might be a home gym or a small salon for the wife ( if she wants it ) Im currently 22K in on costs, as for the man hours its taken me, its far too long, would I do it all again, not sure to be honest, but it was one of the clauses that I agreed to with my youngest ( who didnt want to move ) when we moved, so ive kept my word, shame its maybe 2 years too late for her to really enjoy
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
I built it all from scratch, 75mm X 50mm Stud work, wrapped in building paper then Laplog Cladding ( so looks like a log cabin ), Pan tile roof sheets ( looks like a pan tiled roof, they now use these on static caravans ), then I plasterboarded the insides, Concrete base with OSB floorboard for the floor covered in LVT flooring, a 2nd hand Composite door and Frame, 3 X small UPVC windows ( they were sample window that the sales team from a local window firm had in the sales dept, they changed suppliers so I grabbed 6 of them :thumbup: ) all with as much insulation as I could justify, built a media wall for the TV and games consoles, put my old 4 seater sofa in it, when the wife allows me I will build a small bar in the corner ( but I need to get brownie points by redoing the ensuite 1st ) its a very nice space even if I say so myself
Ive built a 3 X 4 M shed, this 5 X 3 M mancave / place for kids to go with mates and make as much noise as they want , and Ive got enough Cladding and roof material to build a 4 X 3 M building ( this cant be attached to the mancave, as building regs state the max size is 15M2, so will have a small gap between ) which might be a home gym or a small salon for the wife ( if she wants it ) Im currently 22K in on costs, as for the man hours its taken me, its far too long, would I do it all again, not sure to be honest, but it was one of the clauses that I agreed to with my youngest ( who didnt want to move ) when we moved, so ive kept my word, shame its maybe 2 years too late for her to really enjoy
You did it properly then, must've taken plenty of youtube tutorials lol, (unless you're a builder)
I quite like those pre fab "pods" you can buy. Pretty hassle free but pricey