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North Cardiff Blue
Those lucky people who were young in 1939 had it so much easier they didn't have to worry about prams or buying a nice house in a suburb, the government looked after them providing them with a nice free trench and free food, it's so tough now.
Tell me how this matters one tiny bit....
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
He said yes but there was an accident and her mother got ill so she needs another £5,000 for hospital care and a new flight first :thumbup:
Ok thanks for the update. I’ll transfer that to him in Switzerland right away:thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Tell me how this matters one tiny bit....
It's not complicated, my five-year-old grandaughter could grasp it, best leave it there if you can't :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Those lucky people who were young in 1939 had it so much easier they didn't have to worry about prams or buying a nice house in a suburb, the government looked after them providing them with a nice free trench and free food, it's so tough now.
Did you ever write for Monty Python?
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North Cardiff Blue
It's not complicated, my five-year-old grandaughter could grasp it, best leave it there if you can't :thumbup:
Please share it with us, just so there's no misunderstanding, if you have the guts to do so.
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Re: How do young people cope?
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
I don't think the fall in owner occupation is anything to do with your bundle of 'conspiracy ?' plots.
The biggest factor is cash rich buy-to-let landlords squeezing out first time buyers who have seen the cost of homes skyrocket whilst their wages have been stagnant or fallen. Other factors too - but from 70.9 of all homes being owner occupied in 2003, it has now fallen to 64.3% (was 62.6% in 2016). Not a problem if that is part of a mixed and affordable housing stock that meets needs - but it isn't.
At the same time social renting (mostly Council and Housing Association) has fallen to its lowest in a century at 16.6%. Private renting is up to around 19-20% of the total stock of homes. A big chunk of those privately rented homes are ex Council Right To Buys that have been sold on and ended up with private landlords who typically (in London and some other big cities) charge 3 times the rent of an identical retained Council home - either adding to homelessness (some of it hidden) or to the national housing benefit bill. As with low wages, bad employers and bad landlords are subsidised via the Treasury by the rest of us.
So not 15 minutes cities, the end of cash, or Bill Gates chips floating in our latest vaccine shot - just under regulated capitalism where the rich get richer and the majority just try to stay afloat.
Nearly every flat being built in Cardiff city centre now is buy to let. They will never go on open sale.
It's an absolute disgrace, a total scandal and the welsh government and council sit back and watch. Appalling
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Nearly every flat being built in Cardiff city centre now is buy to let. They will never go on open sale.
It's an absolute disgrace, a total scandal and the welsh government and council sit back and watch. Appalling
What should the Welsh Government (I notice you decided to not capitalise it) do about it and how would that differ from Westminster?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Please share it with us, just so there's no misunderstanding, if you have the guts to do so.
I cried because I had no shoes until I met a man who had no feet.
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Re: How do young people cope?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
What should the Welsh Government (I notice you decided to not capitalise it) do about it and how would that differ from Westminster?
Nothing hopefully, they just make every single thing they touch worse - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-68330487
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WJ99mobile
We've recently found out we're expecting our first child and went to look at prams and newborn stuff yesterday.
For the most popular brand it was a staggering £1400 for just a pram and car seat.
Mid terrace 2 bed house for rent in Canton is about £1400/month
Car insurance is about £750 for a 25 year old.
And I know everyone is in the same boat with high costs, but how are young familes (younger than me) supposed to survive these days when they're stuck in entry level jobs?
Drink less coffee and stop having avocado on toast. At least that's what the "brains" on GB news and the Mail telling them...
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Canton Kev
Does eBay have a 2 bed flat for 50 quid a month?
Probably closer to £50 than £1400 :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Nearly every flat being built in Cardiff city centre now is buy to let. They will never go on open sale.
It's an absolute disgrace, a total scandal and the welsh government and council sit back and watch. Appalling
Yep most owned by banks or huge companies/ hedge funds. There is a huge shortage of hotels in Cardiff so they are also built for airbnb style living now too. Lots of low end hotels now just housing homeless families…what a life eh.
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waynekerr55
Drink less coffee and stop having avocado on toast. At least that's what the "brains" on GB news and the Mail telling them...
Some of these ne’er-do-wells have mobile phones & televisions, some even drive, their kids are clean and well dressed as well. Don’t they realise they’d have been up chimneys with Dick Van Dyke in Victorian times. They just don’t know their place!!!
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Originally Posted by
goats
Yep most owned by banks or huge companies/ hedge funds. There is a huge shortage of hotels in Cardiff so they are also built for airbnb style living now too. Lots of low end hotels now just housing homeless families…what a life eh.
Well that's capitalism for you
Thatcher basically privatised the social housing sector and this is what we are left with
If people are appalled by this then blame the selfish gits who voted Conservative in the 1980s
It will take 20 years of investment in social housing to turn this nightmare around
There was a post war concensus in housing policy and although mistakes were made such as some of the high rise estates it was accepted that low cost housing for rent and sale was needed
Along came the Tories, ripped up protected rent ......this is where you are paying huge market rents to private landlords ! ......and sold off council housing .....Great for those who got a house from a huge state subsidy ........a nightmare for those left scrabbling and squabbling around for what was left
It's not the fault of the Welsh government , they have stopped the sale of council homes
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Re: How do young people cope?
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Nearly every flat being built in Cardiff city centre now is buy to let. They will never go on open sale.
It's an absolute disgrace, a total scandal and the welsh government and council sit back and watch. Appalling
This is the result of unmanaged free market capitalism involved in the housing market and seeped into social housing
There is no real social housing left now thanks to the conservatives so the homeless and poorly housed on the waiting lists are directed to hugely over priced private accommodation..........which is paid for by the state through housing benefit ......and goes to private landlords
It is absolutely a scandal and it's down to your lot
The local authorities have absolutely no choice but to house those on the waiting lists into private housing until we start building a glut of social housing
What else would you propose ?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
It's not the fault of the Welsh government , they have stopped the sale of council homes
Well done. They shut the gate after the horse had bolted. Bravo.
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J R Hartley
Well done. They shut the gate after the horse had bolted. Bravo.
How do you propose that the Welsh government fund the huge House building needed which was lost to council house sales ?
Without tax raising powers ?
Enlighten me
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
How do you propose that the Welsh government fund the huge House building needed which was lost to council house sales ?
Without tax raising powers ?
Enlighten me
Speeding tickets for people driving over 20 mph
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Re: How do young people cope?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Speeding tickets for people driving over 20 mph
How much will that raise ?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
How much will that raise ?
Pointless having an opinion on something you can't change isn't it? At least that's what you said.
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
Pointless having an opinion on something you can't change isn't it? At least that's what you said.
The grown ups are talking now dembe
Voting for a new government can change things
If you are old enough to vote I would suggest that's what you do
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
The grown ups are talking now dembe
Voting for a new government can change things
If you are old enough to vote I would suggest that's what you do
I am simply reminding the grown up of what he previously states, incase his old mind did nor recall events of only a few days ago.
Blindly voting Labour over and over is your solution, because you dad did, and his dad before.
The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
I was brought up "vote labour, keep the tory bastards out" I will never vote labour, the soft leftie types have created a mess where people rely on handouts, hard working people are expected to watch on as more and more people freeload.
Oh shit, I forgot, I can't change it so my opinion is invalid, ah well on with my day I go.
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Re: How do young people cope?
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
I am simply reminding the grown up of what he previously states, incase his old mind did nor recall events of only a few days ago.
Blindly voting Labour over and over is your solution, because you dad did, and his dad before.
The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
I was brought up "vote labour, keep the tory bastards out" I will never vote labour, the soft leftie types have created a mess where people rely on handouts, hard working people are expected to watch on as more and more people freeload.
Oh shit, I forgot, I can't change it so my opinion is invalid, ah well on with my day I go.
You are out of your depth here sonny
If you think people struggling are just relying on handouts rather than being at the mercy of government policy then I don't intend wasting any of my time discussing this with you
I think it's best that, as you say, you get on with your day
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
How much will that raise ?
My wife's £88 has gone to Central government not the Senedd.
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The Bloop
My wife's £88 has gone to Central government not the Senedd.
Well it's a start
A gesture
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I don't intend wasting any of my time discussing this with you
I think it's best that, as you say, you get on with your day
You're a fast learner.
You've been saying the same things over snd over on here since day dot, nobody "has a discussion" with you. You repeat yourself over and over while others have opinions and you jump over a thread saying the same things over and over.
You don't want discussion, you just want to shout louder than the next person and repeat yourself until you fall asleep hoping the rest give up. You'll go quiet then pounce on a completely different thread saying the same things over and over.
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Dembe
You're a fast learner.
You've been saying the same things over snd over on here since day dot, nobody "has a discussion" with you. You repeat yourself over and over while others have opinions and you jump over a thread saying the same things over and over.
You don't want discussion, you just want to shout louder than the next person and repeat yourself until you fall asleep hoping the rest give up. You'll go quiet then pounce on a completely different thread saying the same things over and over.
I don't want discussion with you that's for certain sonny
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I don't want discussion with you that's for certain sonny
I am absolutely gutted.
I've always wanted to have an internet back and forth on housing issues with a brick wall.
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Re: How do young people cope?
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
I am simply reminding the grown up of what he previously states, incase his old mind did nor recall events of only a few days ago.
Blindly voting Labour over and over is your solution, because you dad did, and his dad before.
The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
I was brought up "vote labour, keep the tory bastards out" I will never vote labour, the soft leftie types have created a mess where people rely on handouts, hard working people are expected to watch on as more and more people freeload.
Oh shit, I forgot, I can't change it so my opinion is invalid, ah well on with my day I go.
There were 6.4 million people on Universal Credit in January 2024. 39% of them were in work - but not earning enough to live.
Is the 'mess' you speak of people claiming benefits (many don't claim who could) or the levels of pay that mean they cannot survive without?
The benefits system is a mess - the UC 'reforms' didn't resolve that and in many ways made it worse - but the underlying problem is poverty and low pay (and high housing and utilities costs). I'm sure you have your reasons for blaming 'soft leftie types' for all that but I think there are more obvious targets.
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
I am absolutely gutted.
I've always wanted to have an internet back and forth on housing issues with a brick wall.
I know but it's for the best
Maybe you can do some finger painting with the teacher or play in the sand pit ?
Best of luck with everything
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Re: How do young people cope?
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
There were 6.4 million people on Universal Credit in January 2024. 39% of them were in work - but not earning enough to live.
Is the 'mess' you speak of people claiming benefits (many don't claim who could) or the levels of pay that mean they cannot survive without?
The benefits system is a mess - the UC 'reforms' didn't resolve that and in many ways made it worse - but the underlying problem is poverty and low pay (and high housing and utilities costs). I'm sure you have your reasons for blaming 'soft leftie types' for all that but I think there are more obvious targets.
You are wasting your time Jon
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Re: How do young people cope?
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
There were 6.4 million people on Universal Credit in January 2024. 39% of them were in work - but not earning enough to live.
Is the 'mess' you speak of people claiming benefits (many don't claim who could) or the levels of pay that mean they cannot survive without?
The benefits system is a mess - the UC 'reforms' didn't resolve that and in many ways made it worse - but the underlying problem is poverty and low pay (and high housing and utilities costs). I'm sure you have your reasons for blaming 'soft leftie types' for all that but I think there are more obvious targets.
There are also plenty that claim that shouldn't.
People know how to play the system, people that are fit enough to work cash in hand but also claim the highest rates of disability, housing benefit etc etc. People know how to play the system. They'll squeeze every last penny they can, child benefit etc. How much is given to people that don't need it every year?
There are black people in America that blame the welfare state for ruining black families, mothers happy to raise kids without fathers because they get housing and other handouts.
More you give more people take, perhaps money given to people that don't need it but are happy to claim it (and more) could be better spent elsewhere, maybe they could spend it on care for the elderly, and put our council tax rates back down.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
You are wasting your time Jon
You've played the system your entire adult life, you would say that. But as you've pointed out, you don't want to discuss with me do you :thumbup: so you needn't reply :-)
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Re: How do young people cope?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Well that's capitalism for you
Thatcher basically privatised the social housing sector and this is what we are left with
If people are appalled by this then blame the selfish gits who voted Conservative in the 1980s
It will take 20 years of investment in social housing to turn this nightmare around
There was a post war concensus in housing policy and although mistakes were made such as some of the high rise estates it was accepted that low cost housing for rent and sale was needed
Along came the Tories, ripped up protected rent ......this is where you are paying huge market rents to private landlords ! ......and sold off council housing .....Great for those who got a house from a huge state subsidy ........a nightmare for those left scrabbling and squabbling around for what was left
It's not the fault of the Welsh government , they have stopped the sale of council homes
There’s a huge amount of houses being built to the north and west of Cardiff….adding 100,000 to the population. I’m not sure who is buying all these new builds but they appear to be….i imagine there has to be some social housing amongst them all?
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Re: How do young people cope?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
How do you propose that the Welsh government fund the huge House building needed which was lost to council house sales ?
Without tax raising powers ?
Enlighten me
Give them £100Billion, they would blow it in weeks on making Famers uncompetitive by planting more trees, slowing the motorways to 40mph and as many daft ideas as possible to further reduce the terrible economy.
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Re: How do young people cope?
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
You're a fast learner.
You've been saying the same things over snd over on here since day dot, nobody "has a discussion" with you. You repeat yourself over and over while others have opinions and you jump over a thread saying the same things over and over.
Sludge you don't want discussion, you just want to shout louder than the next person and repeat yourself until you fall asleep hoping the rest give up. You'll go quiet then pounce on a completely different thread saying the same things over and over.
Sludge you don't want discussion, you just want to shout BOLLOX louder than the next person and repeat yourself until you fall asleep hoping the rest give up. You'll go quiet then pounce on a completely different thread saying the same things over and over.
Yep spot on :thumbup:
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HaHa ..have to laugh.....poor souls. When I got married ....1970...we lived in an upstairs flat (not apartment in those days...) in Porth. Bed propped up in one corner by a pile of books!!! Shit...we even had to ask my mother if she could lend us a fiver to but some plates and cutlery!! (she did...).
The prices from the OP are just ridiculous...as others have pointed out....prams...children's beds etc can easily be picked up for not too much money on ebay and the like.
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Here they come, the out of touch baby boomers. During the war :old:
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Here they come, the out of touch baby boomers. During the war :old:
Out of touch?? Baby boomers DURING the war....don't be silly.
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Originally Posted by
Maurice Swan
Out of touch?? Baby boomers DURING the war....don't be silly.
Yes, out of touch, boomers havent got the first clue the financial pressures young people of today face. Rent is taking up more than 50% of peoples wages ffs. Thats before all the other bills and taxes on top. The kids of today wont be retiring in their 50s, getting caravans down west, or a nice little apartment in the med because they easily paid off their mortgage before they were 40.
