It was only on Friday i bumped into Elise and she did mention you.:thumbup:
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I think there are local factors as well
I live in CF14, Ashton gate is closer !!!
If you live and work in Cardiff you rarely meet a jack or wurzel but my mates in Bridgend county to Neath you are in the thick of it I guess so you see it differently. I guess the Rhondda is blue
Bristol I think is slightly closer, and there is the English thing, Swansea are much more up for it because they don't have anyone else near them at all. It will always be a much bigger game for them, just look at their Manager out celebrating with young boys in a bar, it means everything to them.
My introduction to Ninian Park was in the 80's so County was the biggest game (boxing day), then the Wurzels and Rovers. It started to get tasty in the 90's in the dungeon era, but on a relatively small scale as attendance we so low in those days.
Yeah Ashton Gate closer to me also in CF23.
I guess the issue is there isn't any area where cardiff or Bristol may be a choice people make. None. No school will be split between cardiff and bristol fans.
Whereas yes its clear there are large areas in south wales which while blue or white may be dominant for whatever reason there will be divided loyalties that just don't apply to cardiff Bristol.
I personally dislike Bristol City more than I dislike Swansea, I worked for a company and we had depots nationwide, I worked out of the Cardiff depot but we also had a depot opposite Cribbs in Bristol, having to speak to those f'ing nitwits regularly broke my brain, the arrogance from these bellends.
the love-in began at 15 years old when I was arrested on Ninian Park Road (with Robert Hicks RIP) after a Bristol City game, from then on I dislike everything about them, the arrogance, the songs they sing but most of all their voice, it goes through me.
in contrast most of the genuine Swansea fans i've worked with have been pretty fair, not afraid to give Cardiff credit during our decade of dominance and they're just happy to have a club to support after such a turbulent past.
maybe your view (SLUDGE) on Swansea comes from the area you grew up in, Cardiff is nearer to Bristol, plus they're English.
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Swansea weren’t even on the radar when I was younger. They were a crappy team from West Wales that I probably favoured over Newport County whose fans used to give me stick, being close to Newport myself. Bristol City were the rivals and my dislike of them is etched in my brain. Swansea now as well of course - I find their obsession with us quite disturbing.
I feel a bigger bitterness towards Bristol and its seversnside badge due to past tussels , its Wales v England adds to that bite .
There's a historical animosity towards the southern Welsh from Bristolians, especially the older ones. It stems from the depression years when facing massive unemployment many Welsh people went Bristol in search of work. The other point to make is that Bristol was always considered in business circles throughout the UK to be a City with folk with a village mentality - doing business there I can certainly vouch for that. Having said that, whilst the south Wales derby is the 'big one' for me, I don't have the animosity for the Jacks as I do for the Wurzels..
All these people saying Bristol but don't think I've ever heard an anti Bristol song at a cardiff game in 40 years. Whereas songs about swansea are several times every game home and away. Odd.
The classic advise of which side of the bridge you should shit on springs to mind .
I recall a few away days where the Brizzies chanted Aberfan at us, on a personal level that was enough for me to hate them on behalf of my Dad's old school, and past family connections .
when I mentioned in my post "the songs they sing" I was alluding to the Aberfan song, horrible bunch.
to Father Douglas, as for the number of songs for Swansea compared to Bristol, that alone doesn't equate to a deeper hatred, in fact I would say it's more playful, apart from the on-field shenanigans I don't even acknowledge Bristol City on match days.
I have the same feelings whoever we play wether it be Man city or Mansfield. Over the moon if we win or gutted if we lose, every team is the enemy.
Back in the 70s, we used to sing "we hate Bristol City; we hate Swindon Town..."
(Swindon Town? ?? :hehe: )
Swansea 2 divisions below us were never mentioned.
Current rivalry is, well, current - only built up since the millenium, bmaybe, with the media eager to promote "the South Wales derby".
I was 10 years old when, with the help of my dad, I won a competition with Shredded Wheat. The prize was to spend the day with a 'top football team', join in with a training session and to have lunch with the players at a top restaurant.
I had been dreaming of a trip to one of the top teams' ground for weeks with my dad and the day finally came. Bristol fu**ing City!! The day was made somewhat brightened by a certain Bobby Gould's strop on the training pitch arguing with his team mates which continued into the restaurant. Gould was sat next to me and my dad while he told the manager, Alan Dicks, to repeatedly "fu** off". Whereupon my dad told him to "stop swearing in front of my son, shut up before I shut you up". Probably my favourite moment with my dad :)
I quite like Bristol some nice birds there, and I definately like Bristols
Surely its a generational thing. For someone who only started watching us from the 80s onwards then of course Swansea is more likely to feel the bigger rivalry, especially if , shall we say you were involved or around the off the field activities of the 80s and 90s.
But for the older generation, if they say they feel Bristol City are more our rivals than Swansea Town then if thats the way they feel, thats the way the feel regardless of you telling them who our rivals should be.
Overbearing git.
Thats literally what ive just said you moron. Swansea for me all the way and every Cardiff fan I know around my age feels the same, but clearly some people feel otherwise. Who the feck are you to tell them who our biggest rivals are? Self appointed Chief Superintendent of the football supporting police.
I am stating facts , I couldn't care less what you think
Apart from a few old gummers anyone saying our biggest rivals are Bristol City are playing into the hands of Swansea taking the piss out of us
They are not relevant
It's their cup final
Bristol is the big one
Etc etc