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Re: In reality, the left is the target of political violence
The UK media is incredibly top heavy with right wing crap
There are more outlets to peddle right wing nonsense ......and they are very active
Anyone who thinks the Guardian and the BBC ......both of whom are wishy washy but essentially liberal and moderate come anywhere near the right wing rubbish this country spews out is deluded or lying or both
Daily Mail , The Sun , Express , Times , Telegraph , Evening Standard , ITN , Sky , Talk TV, GB News
That's just for starters when it comes to tory and right wing cobblers
Absolutely overloaded with it
I am not even going to wait for the yeah but no but yeah gibberish from the usual tory suspect or suspects
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Re: In reality, the left is the target of political violence
Only Gammons read trash like the Mail, Express and Sun.
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Citizen's Nephew
Let’s cut to the chase here. What you’re talking about - this frustration with how the media, including outlets like The Guardian, spin stories with flashy headlines and sometimes shaky grounds in reality - isn’t just a one-off thing. It’s the norm, not the exception, and it’s everywhere. From left to right, online or print, every publication out there is playing the same game. They’ve got space to fill, ads to sell, and clicks to get. Truth? Balance? That often takes a backseat to whatever gets people fired up enough to share an article.
Hoping for academic-level neutrality from these guys is like expecting a shark not to bite; it’s just not in their nature. They’re not in the business of giving you a well-rounded lecture; they’re in the business of keeping your eyes glued to their page at any cost. Sensationalism sells, and subtlety doesn’t pay the bills.
Your points on bias, selective storytelling, and playing favorites with facts are spot-on. If a story only tells one side or hypes up certain examples while ignoring others, it’s not just bending the truth - it’s warping it. And yeah, every example they use might be legit, but when they cherry-pick only the bits that suit their angle, we’re getting a distorted picture of reality.
The problem I have with your reply is calling out one publication for this kind of thing. It’s like yelling at a single raindrop for getting you wet in a storm. This is a widespread problem. It’s about the entire system that prioritises scandal over substance and outrage over accuracy.
I'd argue that media like The Daily Mail, The Sun, and The Express are much worse at doing this. Some of the material published in those 'news' outlets constitutes hate speech IMO. So, The Guardian, by no means exempt from the issues you mention, is far more readable IMO than the other media I've mentioned. Though, I acknowledge, it's getting harder and harder to find reliable sources.
What you're asking for is academic writing. But you also acknowledge that it's not going to happen. So, in summary, what you also seem to be acknowledging is that none of us should read any news outlet and cite it in any thread unless it is of the academic standard you're expecting.
Bottom line: You’re right to be f*cked off about the lack of balance and the blatant bias. But let’s not kid ourselves that this is a problem with just one article or one outlet. It’s the whole media landscape that’s skewed.
I largely agree with you too. I probably could express it more evenly, but on CCMB at least we really don't see many 'right wing' threads really, and I just don't engage on some of the more conspiratorial ones.
I think our issues are things as we've discussed, poor news values, people getting their news from twitter and phones which can never properly portray issues, political intolerance, some issues on free speech, a lack of understanding of different views etc. It's got worse in the last 15 years or so, perhaps since the global financial crisis but I blame social media more than anything.
I really don't like political pigeon holes, I really think there is good and bad across the spectrum and we should question and listen to everything. When I hear differently I tend to push against it and as I say on CCMB I generally see the issues come more from a left wing perspective, but I entirely agree it's across the spectrum. That, deep down is what I am usually trying to say, not always worded as well as I would like.
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Re: In reality, the left is the target of political violence
I've been targetted by vile left wing commentary on ere
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The UK media is incredibly top heavy with right wing crap
There are more outlets to peddle right wing nonsense ......and they are very active
Anyone who thinks the Guardian and the BBC ......both of whom are wishy washy but essentially liberal and moderate come anywhere near the right wing rubbish this country spews out is deluded or lying or both
Daily Mail , The Sun , Express , Times , Telegraph , Evening Standard , ITN , Sky , Talk TV, GB News
That's just for starters when it comes to tory and right wing cobblers
Absolutely overloaded with it
I am not even going to wait for the yeah but no but yeah gibberish from the usual tory suspect or suspects
titania you're back!! and of course i agree the economic league are worse than stonewall and hate not hope, coz it's ok when we do it
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Wales-Bales
It's quite complicated, and not everything happens like it appears in the Guardian :biggrin:
So, I shouldn’t believe something like this?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ew-york-london
Are you sure smug superiority is the right look for the non event that is your Trouble brewing in Washington thread?
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the other bob wilson
Are you sure smug superiority is the right look for the non event that is your Trouble brewing in Washington thread?
Patience young grasshopper. It seems like it was ages ago when this was declared the 2021/22 Conspiracy Theory Ballon D'Or winner by the usual suspects, and even Chancellor Sunak denied it would happen, but here we are ...
https://www.reuters.com/business/fin...hs-2024-03-25/
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Wales-Bales
Patience young grasshopper. It seems like it was ages ago when this was declared the 2021/22 Conspiracy Theory Ballon D'Or winner by the usual suspects, and even Chancellor Sunak denied it would happen, but here we are ...
https://www.reuters.com/business/fin...hs-2024-03-25/
I notice Australia passed the Digital ID bill yesterday
Agenda 2030 edging closer every day
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MOZZER2
I notice Australia passed the Digital ID bill yesterday
Agenda 2030 edging closer every day
The one can't work without the other, but other components will be added too, which will result in a digital control system like the one they have in China.
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the other bob wilson
You have to wonder what's going on in the heads of these people. It's truly frightening. If this was an individual, who, say, decided to put out a propaganda piece like that, there'd be some sort of intervention. This is the work of people who have truly lost the plot.
I didn't think I could be shocked any further but, yay! The Tories don't disappoint, do they?
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Citizen's Nephew
You have to wonder what's going on in the heads of these people. It's truly frightening. If this was an individual, who, say, decided to put out a propaganda piece like that, there'd be some sort of intervention. This is the work of people who have truly lost the plot.
I didn't think I could be shocked any further but, yay! The Tories don't disappoint, do they?
The American narrator and the overall style are like some amateur Batman promo made by Nigel from accounting who's subscribed to an online site that produces generic videos by cutting and pasting royalty-free clips. You pay extra to have the watermark removed.
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Dorcus
Only Gammons read trash like the Mail, Express and Sun.
I'm more of a Parma Ham lover myself.
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the other bob wilson
"Policed by cameras and computers" :sherlock:
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Wales-Bales
"Policed by cameras and computers" :sherlock:
Quick! Get off this board. Microwave your phone. Never go online.
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Citizen's Nephew
Quick! Get off this board. Microwave your phone. Never go online.
How will I transact with my digitally tracked CBDC?
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Wales-Bales
The one can't work without the other, but other components will be added too, which will result in a digital control system like the one they have in China.
The UK Have awarded the Digital ID Contract to Fujitsu, despite the recent Post Office Scandal revelations according to some within 12 to 24 months
programmable money can be switched on and off like a light bulb by the psychopaths that run the world !
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MOZZER2
The UK Have awarded the Digital ID Contract to Fujitsu, despite the recent Post Office Scandal revelations according to some within 12 to 24 months
programmable money can be switched on and off like a light bulb by the psychopaths that run the world !
What if it's linked to carbon usage and good behaviour? So it would be like a form of rationing, but you have to keep quiet about it or your you chip will get turned off. :hehe:
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Wales-Bales
Patience young grasshopper. It seems like it was ages ago when this was declared the 2021/22 Conspiracy Theory Ballon D'Or winner by the usual suspects, and even Chancellor Sunak denied it would happen, but here we are ...
https://www.reuters.com/business/fin...hs-2024-03-25/
And there you have it, actually calling me grasshopper while spouting your gobbledygook- I take it you’ve joking there. I couldn’t read that link without having to answer twenty questions about my ad blocker, so I didn’t bother.
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Wales-Bales
What if it's linked to carbon usage and good behaviour? So it would be like a form of rationing, but you have to keep quiet about it or your you chip will get turned off. :hehe:
i can picture my bank account statement in the year 2028 which will look some thing like this ( automatically generated )
April 30'th 2028
Electric consumption ................xxxxx you have consumed too much electric in March you will lose 20% consumption in May
Gas consumption ....................xxxxxx you have consumed too much gas in March 2028 you will lose 30 % consumption in May
Water Utility ..........................xxxxxx you have used the right amount of water in March so your credit score will remain the same
Grocery spend .......................xxxxxxx you have spent 10% over your credit score so will reduce by 10% in May
Meat Products .......................xxxxxxx you have spent 20% over your allowance . will be reduced by 20 % in May
Travel Allowance....................xxxxxxx you have used the right amount of car allowance but air travel exceeded your allowance by 20 %
Carbon Tax ...............................Following your credit score for the month of April your carbon score is 15% over the allowance
Failure to comply in May will result in the lose of your credit score
Further investigation & Actions will see your authority take legal action if you don't comply
Exciting times ahead !
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MOZZER2
i can picture my bank account statement in the year 2028 which will look some thing like this ( automatically generated )
April 30'th 2028
Electric consumption ................xxxxx you have consumed too much electric in March you will lose 20% consumption in May
Gas consumption ....................xxxxxx you have consumed too much gas in March 2028 you will lose 30 % consumption in May
Water Utility ..........................xxxxxx you have used the right amount of water in March so your credit score will remain the same
Grocery spend .......................xxxxxxx you have spent 10% over your credit score so will reduce by 10% in May
Meat Products .......................xxxxxxx you have spent 20% over your allowance . will be reduced by 20 % in May
Travel Allowance....................xxxxxxx you have used the right amount of car allowance but air travel exceeded your allowance by 20 %
Carbon Tax ...............................Following your credit score for the month of April your carbon score is 15% over the allowance
Failure to comply in May will result in the lose of your credit score
Further investigation & Actions will see your authority take legal action if you don't comply
Exciting times ahead !
No mention of being sent to a re-education camp? You seem like a very bad citizen to me!