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I think I’d go for this bloke who got a raw deal from Sam Hammam, Blackpool fans thought the world of him it seems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Ayre
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Eric the Half a Bee
Dave Jones. Finest manager we've ever had. I'll have absolutely no criticism about him whatsoever.
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Think I enjoyed the Eddie May years the best. Dave Jones too, although very frustrating that we never quite fulfilled our potential.
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Moodybluebird
That's the one anomaly that came to my mind too so for you to mention it only gives weight to my argument that there were very few poor signings.
George Smith? Dave Powell? Johnny Vincent? Generally speaking, I don’t think Scoularwasgreat in the transfer market from 1972 onwards.
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the other bob wilson
George Smith? Dave Powell? Johnny Vincent? Generally speaking, I don’t think Scoularwasgreat in the transfer market from 1972 onwards.
That’s one year out of nine. Working the majority of his tenure with Fred Dewey must have been frustrating and like getting blood out of a stone.
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Jones, Malky, Warnock, May - in no particular order. Malky / Warnock had success and Jones for the style of play - especially when compared with the last few years. Eddie May on the list - just for the good times. All the rest have been pretty tame / sh1t. Slade, McCarthy, Ollie, Morison, Harris and countless others over the last 40 odd years have delivered mediocrity at best.
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Eric the Half a Bee
I was being facetious.
Ans I was being captain obvious by bringing that back up, like it hadn't been mentioned 475673863838573 other times.
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splott parker
That’s one year out of nine. Working the majority of his tenure with Fred Dewey must have been frustrating and like getting blood out of a stone.
Absolutely right. Strange for TOBW to highlight players signed by Scoular in his last year as our manager. Even more so when you consider the plethora of good/great signings he made before then: Murray, Harris, Gibson, Lea, King (?), B Jones, Woodruff, Warboys, Clark, Farrell etc etc. And neither Powell, Vincent nor Smith could be deemed bad signings. Vincent for instance scored 11 goals in 66 appearances from midfield. Very odd !
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Moodybluebird
Absolutely right. Strange for TOBW to highlight players signed by Scoular in his last year as our manager. Even more so when you consider the plethora of good/great signings he made before then: Murray, Harris, Gibson, Lea, King (?), B Jones, Woodruff, Warboys, Clark, Farrell etc etc. And neither Powell, Vincent nor Smith could be deemed bad signings. Vincent for instance scored 11 goals in 66 appearances from midfield. Very odd !
Peter King was already here, signed from Worcester City, I believe, prior to Scoular, may have even been Bill Jones who signed him.
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splott parker
Peter King was already here, signed from Worcester City, I believe, prior to Scoular, may have even been Bill Jones who signed him.
Yeah, that's why I put a question mark against King's name. Same with Murray apparently. He joined us in 1962. Nevertheless, still an impressive list of signings.
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Moodybluebird
Yeah, that's why I put a question mark against King's name. Same with Murray apparently. He joined us in 1962. Nevertheless, still an impressive list of signings.
Fred Davies was also a good signing when Scoular was losing faith in Bob Wilson (this wrankled with our TOBW perhaps:hehe:). Wilson’s howler against Hamburg when Davies was ineligible was the final nail in the coffin. Although, to be fair, we may never have reached the semi final without Wilson’s heroics, the Combination to the ECWC was a huge leap.
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Moodybluebird
Absolutely right. Strange for TOBW to highlight players signed by Scoular in his last year as our manager. Even more so when you consider the plethora of good/great signings he made before then: Murray, Harris, Gibson, Lea, King (?), B Jones, Woodruff, Warboys, Clark, Farrell etc etc. And neither Powell, Vincent nor Smith could be deemed bad signings. Vincent for instance scored 11 goals in 66 appearances from midfield. Very odd !
Vincent and Powell were injured an awful lot, Smith was hopeless for us. Scoular decided to break the team up at the start of 72/73 and with David Goldstone coming on to the Board, there was quite a bit of money to be spent, McCulloch and Anderson were good signings, but the team didn’t really improve over the next year, despite all of the new signings, hence his sacking. Scoular made some excellent signings in his time, but it’s a fact that we spent more time struggling against the drop in his nine years with us than we did going for promotion - his short time at Newport after leaving us was a bit of a disaster as well
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the other bob wilson
Vincent and Powell were injured an awful lot, Smith was hopeless for us. Scoular decided to break the team up at the start of 72/73 and with David Goldstone coming on to the Board, there was quite a bit of money to be spent, McCulloch and Anderson were good signings, but the team didn’t really improve over the next year, despite all of the new signings, hence his sacking. Scoular made some excellent signings in his time, but it’s a fact that we spent more time struggling against the drop in his nine years with us than we did going for promotion - his short time at Newport after leaving us was a bit of a disaster as well
Prior to Goldstone, he was with us for 9 years with little or no financial backing from the Dewey brothers, so it was always going to be a struggle but towards the end of the 60's our league position started to improve and but for the Toshack sale, who knows how far he may have taken us.
Interestingly, we mentioned Foggon in an earlier post so I thought I'd google him. I was astonished to find he netted 45 times in 115 games for Middlesbrough after he left us. Something not quite right there.
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Moodybluebird
Prior to Goldstone, he was with us for 9 years with little or no financial backing from the Dewey brothers, so it was always going to be a struggle but towards the end of the 60's our league position started to improve and but for the Toshack sale, who knows how far he may have taken us.
Interestingly, we mentioned Foggon in an earlier post so I thought I'd google him. I was astonished to find he netted 45 times in 115 games for Middlesbrough after he left us. Something not quite right there.
Didn’t he also win the Fairs Cup with Newcastle as well?
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In answer to the OP question- quite a lot of city managers have been liked. :hehe:
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Moodybluebird
Prior to Goldstone, he was with us for 9 years with little or no financial backing from the Dewey brothers, so it was always going to be a struggle but towards the end of the 60's our league position started to improve and but for the Toshack sale, who knows how far he may have taken us.
Interestingly, we mentioned Foggon in an earlier post so I thought I'd google him. I was astonished to find he netted 45 times in 115 games for Middlesbrough after he left us. Something not quite right there.
He was still fat(tish) at Middlesbrough - he went on to play for Manchester United didn’t he.
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splott parker
Didn’t he also win the Fairs Cup with Newcastle as well?
Yes, he scored in the Final.
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the other bob wilson
He was still fat(tish) at Middlesbrough - he went on to play for Manchester United didn’t he.
Amazingly he played 3 games for them.
I wonder if he's the only player that's played for all 4 of the league teams based in the North East (Hartlepool were at the time).
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Moodybluebird
Amazingly he played 3 games for them.
I wonder if he's the only player that's played for all 4 of the league teams based in the North East (Hartlepool were at the time).
Darlington is/were a north east club, also, County Durham.
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splott parker
Darlington is/were a north east club, also, County Durham.
Remembered Darlington just after I posted it ! Gateshead were also a league team in the 50's. Didn't know there was ever a County Durham FC though.
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Moodybluebird
Remembered Darlington just after I posted it ! Gateshead were also a league team in the 50's. Didn't know there was ever a County Durham FC though.
There wasn’t, I was just stating that Darlo is in County Durham, not North Yorkshire, as some assume.
Ashington were also League club, I believe, in the dim and distant past, way before Foggon’s time.
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splott parker
There wasn’t, I was just stating that Darlo is in County Durham, not North Yorkshire, as some assume.
Ashington were also League club, I believe, in the dim and distant past, way before Foggon’s time.
Ah right. The Charlton brothers were from Ashington I believe.
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Moodybluebird
Ah right. The Charlton brothers were from Ashington I believe.
And Wor Jackie, their uncle. and the other Milburn brothers, not as well known as Jackie but still pros.
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Eddie May, Dave Jones, Malky, and Warnock, the Dave Jones spell had some of the best football and the players were characters.