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says more about the person reading the article than the actual situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Walesonline are one of the most biased ignorant and creators of sensationalist headlines going around in the world of online media.
oh and they can stick their "SAVE OUR BELOVED BULUT TURD" back up their arse. Honestly how much is the agent paying them!? or are they just racist towards Tan ..who knows
We only go backwards UNDER Bulut, not when he’s not around.
“There are other Championship sides who are already stealing a march on Cardiff in terms of their manager search. Just today, Norwich City, who let David Wagner go after their play-off semi-final defeat by Leeds United, were linked with moves for promotion-winning Steve Cooper, highly-regarded ex-AZ Alkmaar boss Pascal Jansen and FC Nordsjælland's Johannes Hoff Thorup.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Hull City look set to appoint ex-Hamburger SV manager Tim Walter after letting Liam Rosenior leave and Paul Heckingbottom, who took Sheffield United up to the Premier League and Barnsley up to the Championship from League One, is odds-on favourite to get the Plymouth Argyle job.
Rosenior, by the way, who is well thought of and plays an attractive brand of football, is the bookmakers' favourite to take over at Birmingham City after Tony Mowbray today announced he would not be returning to St Andrew's because of ongoing treatment for the illness that forced him to take an initial leave of absence during last season. Reports in France suggest up-and-coming manager Will Still could be announced at Sunderland this week, too.”
Leave him in Turkey.....we don't want him back !
Some priceless comments on there
Dopey twat , he's German
Kortrijk manager could be appointed by Tan if Kortrijk win there play off.
finally talking some sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Those are not my wordsQuote:
Originally Posted by Blooburd
They are the words of an idiot who thinks bulut is Turkish
Former Turkish under-21 international and former Turkish national Futsal team member Erol Bulut is German?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You'll be telling us Kieffer Moore is English next.
You have Russian and Indian heritage I believeQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
You were born in Cardiff ?
That's in Wales
So you are Spanish then ?
There's logic in there somewhere
I wonder if someone were to ask former Turkey international Erol Bulut whether he considers himself to be Turkish or German, what the answer would be?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I guess it wouldn't really matter though, as some dopey twat on a Cardiff City message board has apparently already determined he's a German.
Firstly, Monkfish did not say "**** off back to your own country." He said he hoped Bulut had flounced off back to Turkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurManFlint II
According to the press, Bulut has indeed returned to Turkey. If the BBC's reports are accurate, his family home is in Istanbul.
Secondly, you have claimed Bulut is German. On what basis have you made that assumption?
Firstly, Monkfish did not say "**** off back to your own country." He said he hoped Bulut had flounced off back to Turkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurManFlint II
According to the press, Bulut has indeed returned to Turkey. If the BBC's reports are accurate, his family home is in Istanbul.
Secondly, you have claimed Bulut is German. On what basis have you made that assumption?
Maybe people think he is German because he was born there.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Indeed. But life's not quite as simple as that, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardM
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardM
What the f is 'turkball', as well! He's been on here long enough for me to know his opinions, he's a bigot in my opinion. I thought his comments on this and another thread today showed hints of casual bigotry, and it needs calling out.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I know that and you know that, but others may not.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
If that's how you feel, then fair enough. I think you over-reacted.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurManFlint II
From what I have read, I don't think Erol Bulut believes it's that simple either. So that's three of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardM
The answer to his nationality may be that it is of a dual natureQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
But in respect of the comments made by someone on the Wales Online page they are clearly bigoted nonsense which given your background and history of standing up against that sort of bollocks I am sure you would join in calling out
Monkfish is more than capable of defending himself on what he said which is not what I commented on
If you are going to carry on with this silly fraud and fake line then I think its wise if I popped around and we shared a cuppa as I think you are being daft and I think you are a lot better than that
😂Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardM
Let's see what the man himself has to say, shall we? Here's one example:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
German-born former Turkey under-21 international Bulut will be at Cardiff City Stadium on Tuesday as Wales seek a win - and hope Croatia slip up at home to Armenia - in order to clinch Group D's second automatic qualification spot.
While Bulut says he will be impartial on the night - "I will sit in the centre," he said - he is excited about Turkey's prospects in Germany next summer, believing it will be like a home from home for Turkey because of the large Turkish community in Germany.
"It is always great to see my country in the big tournaments like the Euros and the World Cup," said Bulut.
"When you see the national team now, the quality we have and the individual quality, we have to be in these kinds of tournaments.
"Germany will be like home games for us. You saw Bayern Munich play Galatasaray (in the Champions League) and the stadium was nearly 50-50.
"So it was very important to us to be in this tournament."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67469771
So, are you going to tell Bulut he's German (and a dopey twat into the bargain)?
The only dopey twat is the arsehole who on Wales online said bulut should feck off back to TurkeyQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
That's clearly bigoted and offensive
Now his nationality can be argued about all day and if a man with Turkish parents born in Germany describes himself as Turkish then that's his right and his perogative as that applies to lots of people in Europe these days
In the UK a lot of Asian kids say they are Pakistani despite being born and brought up here and their country is Pakistan
I don't care , its their perogative
But the people who say people should feck off back to Pakistan or Turkey or wherever are the idiots and wether bulut is German, half German, Turkish, German born turk or whatever doesn't really matter
Bulut's situation is obviously a totally different one to an Asian kid who was born and brought up here. Only a complete fool would believe otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Bulut did indeed come to Wales from Turkey. That's a fact. He did so for work purposes. If the press reports are accurate, he has indeed returned to Turkey, which is where his family are. His nationality (which the man himself seems to believe is Turkish) is not a factor when it comes to him returning from whence he came.
But still the question “Secondly, you have claimed Bulut is German. On what basis have you made that assumption?”Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Didn’t really need to be asked? You would have a field day on someone who said that to you.
Perhaps you're right, it didn't need to be asked. But boldly stating Bulut is a German and anyone who thinks otherwise is a "dopey twat" or a "moron" is a bit daft too, wouldn't you say?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
Now that's funny and a point well made to boot. I find myself agreeing with TLG more and more these days (from a distance). Some people on this board think they are members of the thought police. The only arbiters of truth, common sense, correctness (political and otherwise) and decency. They need to get over themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Pretty good case methinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Bulut was born in Germany to Turkish parentsQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Plenty of Asian kids in the UK were born to Asian parents
It's obviously exactly the same thing
People who tell,others to feck off back to Turkey, Germany, Pakistan, Africa are ignorant
Some racist , some just daft
Well like TLG it appears this has gone whoosh over your headQuote:
Originally Posted by Garth Blue
The person who wrote feck off back to Turkey on Wales Online is definitely a dopey twat and a moron and bigotedQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Is that a fact?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Yeh. I'm just another dopey twat. I'm privileged to just be in your orbit.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Born in Bad Schwalbach , GermanyQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Well if you are the sort of person to throw around feck off back to Turkey insults , covering thinly hidden ignorance ........then you are definitely a dopey twat and definitely not in my stellar systemQuote:
Originally Posted by Garth Blue
I can't possibly say if you are
" Feck off back to Turkey" "Dopey ignorant moronic twat". Hmmm, double standards I would say..... but then I shouldn't question the boards centre of mass.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I am confused as to why this is difficult for you to graspQuote:
Originally Posted by Garth Blue
If someone thinks someone should feck off back to where they are from this historically is used as a term of discrimination
And they deserve to have their wings clipped
There's no double standards there
I mean it's not like I want a happy chat with these people
I can see that you don't agree and don't like all this modern stuff you think is politically correct and woke but that's the way it is
Yes, especially when the individual concerned uses terms like “we”and “us” when talking about Turkey and has won under 21 caps for that country. Anyway,shouldn’t Erol Bulut’s nationality be irrelevant in the current situation and when debating about his management? He isn’t a very defensive football manager because he’s Turkish or German.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Like many progeny of immigrants, Bulut's self-identity is mixed, according to comments he has made to the German press. He experienced some prejudice when growing up in Germany and resistance in some quarters when taking up a place in the Turkish national team.
In general, he appears to feel at home in both cultures and hugely enjoyed his time working in Greece.
The concept of a singular national identity can sometimes be a tad nebulous and complex for those who straddle more than one culture, methinks.
Oh f*ck, you’ve brought Greece into it now:facepalm:……….:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie