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Say it how it is Roy:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Gunn had an absolute shocker. When you are the underdogs early on in a tournament and the nerves are high you need your keeper to make some saves early and calm you down, he did the opposite. Still wonder just how different our 2016 Euros might have been if not for that unbelievable Ben Davies sliding clearance when we got carved open in the first few minutes against Slovakia.
God, yes, that was a game changer. It was worth a goal to us really and, in a way, pumped us up. Robson-Kanu’s scuffed winner as well. Fine margins eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Bluebird
Play like that again and you will be. Very poor performanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Sarcasm doesn't always travel well to the keyboard..I meant we could still beat Germany at the time , we had just pulled it back to 4-1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfresco
We have a very limited player pool . Hopefully we will give all those that travelled something to cheer before get sent homeward...
Pardon.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
They are garbage.
I was chatting about this to my girls team tonight, I pulled France out as my sweepstake team, someone pointed out Wales are not in it, which to a 16 yr old is strange, as they have only known, Euro16 & 20 and the WC, all with Wales in it, I explained the player pool that Wales and Scotland can pick from is much smaller than England, Germany etc etc, which does somewhat drive home how lucky we have been recently with Welsh results, some of the players in the 1/4 final win were not special, Neil Taylor, James Chester, Gunts, HRK, Vokes, Championship players, of course this was offset by Bales, Rambo who were top end players, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts applies I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Yes, decent individuals but not much of a team.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I would say that Wales have a better defensive unit and a more potent attack when they get their act together. Yes, Scotland were playing a strong German team but their ball control and movement was non-existent.
Although he's usually on point, he is far too honest to be a manager. The team would be a quivering wreck before they'd even kicked a ball. I think Fergie got it right, he could be one of the lads, but always had the hairdryer on standby.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
What’s happened to Scotland? Eighteen months or so ago, they were one of Europe’s form sides, but this result has not come out of the blue, their results have been poor and I think Steve Clarke would have been under pressure in different circumstances. It’s hardly as if they’re an old side going over the top together - this time last year I would have backed them to get through the group they’re in and they still could, they’re not a great side, but they should be better than they’ve been showing lately.
Who knows Bob. Peaked too early ? Scotland were a good team, the sum total of everyone together was better than the individuals.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I haven't gone because I wasn't feeling it.
Although last night wasn't the total end of the world , it wasn't a good start.
I know I shouldn't really care what happened last night and had it been anything other than an opening match I probably would not have even watched yet I thoroughly enjoyed that.
Iron Bru, Buckfast, deep fried Mars Bars are you watching? Your boys got a hell of a beating.
The good thing is that I believe goal difference is not really important when it comes to qualification, it’s more about results against the teams you’re in competition with, so they could still qualify for the last sixteen with just one win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
I hope we have something to cheer at some point , but last 16 could bring even greater disappointment .Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Whilst it isn't a competition , I feel Steve Clarke would probably be in demand at a certain level in domestic football (ours?)
A few more bad results would soon dissipate that .
Glad you enjoyed it , I didn't let it bother me too much as I was tucking into a few deep fried Mars Bars washed down with a gallon of Irn Bru and single Malt .Quote:
Originally Posted by Majorblue
Buckfast on the corn flakes this morning .
Have a lovely day :thumbup:
SATURDAY 15th JUNE
FT: HUNGARY 1 - 3 SWITZERLAND
FT: SPAIN 3 - 0 CROATIA
FT: ITALY 2 - 1 ALBANIA
For that then they will need Germany to win all 3 games, and them to beat the team that beat the other team in the group.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
e.g.
Germany wins all 3
Switzerland beats Hungary
Scotland beats Switzerland
Seems a somewhat unlikely scenario if entirely possible. I think 4 points is the minimum to not be in the third place spot, if they are in third GD is the number one tie breaker after points (obviously, as they won't have played any of the other third place teams from other groups).
I would love Scotland to do well
Looking at the news coverage last night there were clearly masses of loyal fans out there who may never see their boys again in a major tournament
It's only 8 years since we were in France showboating
These times are great times for us , the jocks , norn iron etc when we eventually get there
I hope England get stuffed
Switzerland a goal up against Hungary, when the last time the Swiss didn’t qualify for the Finals of a major tournament I wonder?
2-0.
Hungary look bloody awful. Switzerland could/should have had 4 or 5 in that first half. 2 good finishes for the Swiss goals aswell. If Switzerland really click on the 2nd half this could get very messy for Hungary
2-1 after Hungary had missed a great chance a couple of minutes earlier - could be a good last quarter of the game.
Switzerland score a third in added time as Hungary chase an equaliser, game over - based on the two matches played so far, it’s hard to see Scotland beating either of these two.
Observations from the first 2 games
Both Refs have been anonymous and better than anything in the Ingurlish leagues
I thought the Ref in the Scotland game was excellent. Clear decisions, no drama, he almost seemed disinterested, but he had complete control.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
I see some parallels with us under Mark Hughes. We had a calendar year when we were invincible then our form slipped drastically and we were lucky to finish with a playoff against Ukraine. I've always reckoned that, had we beaten them, we'd have been battered in Euro 2004 as we were playing poorly. Sadly, Hughes started the next campaign, which started disastrously, and that was the end of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Perhaps Scotland have had their spell where everything has been great and now it's back to normal, as we did back then?
Always liked Clement Turpin and I reckon he has a very good chance of taking charge of the final if France don't make it.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Luka Modric has 175 caps :yikes:
Was it not Hughes managing the team that went to Montenegro (who had just sacked their manager) for a draw and came a copper by losing late on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
If he'd have just gone for the jugular we would not have needed the playoff game.
Wasn't that against Russia, or am I mixing up my Wales failures?
Brilliant goal doubles Spain’s lead over Croatia - Spain not too clever at the back though.
Another very watchable game.
Think it was Serbia we lost 1-0 to in the group stage before the Play Off loss to Russia - you’re right about Hughes being over cautious in both games.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
You're right, it was Russia. I'm getting old!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
Had to check the group. We were 4 points adrift of Italy in the end. The group started with Yugoslavia taking part and changing to Serbia and Montenegro. There was some infighting with the players from what I remember, resulting in them picking up only 1 point from 2 games against Azerbaijan.
Italy only drew at home to Yugoslavia, so after we'd won our opening 4 games we could have lost in Italy and qualified with 3 wins. As it was, 2 would have been enough. Unfortunately for us, all of S&M's main players decided to return and they did the double over us, while we also failed to beat Finland at home, winning 1 point from the last 4 matches. That Finland game Finnished us off. We would have been a point clear of Italy with a last home game over S&M to come, but ended up needing Azerbaijan to get a result in Italy, which they didn't manage. Alternatively, had Serbia & Montenegro not had their problems and beaten Azerbaijan twice, they'd have won the group in the end.
3-0.
Dion Dublin: "The key to the game so far is the wide players for Spain, Lamine Yamal and Nico Williams. Their wideplay is stretching the pitch so wide and making it so big that it is forcing the Croatian defenders to cover the whole width of the pitch, which is leaving gaps all over the place."
None of that inverted winger shit then.
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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
Football is a simple game
Yes but only very good players make it look simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Why is Rodri still on the pitch?
A question the ITV commentators threatened to answer, but then dodged.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I struggle to understand the laws where there is a foul in the box and a penalty.
A red card can be given as well as the penalty - depending on the severity of the foul - but my understanding (which may be wrong) is that the referee can deem the penalty to be punishment enough and settle for a yellow for the foul.
Rodri did foul, but it was a slight touch.
If he had fouled just outside the box with only the keeper to beat he would probably have got a red for denying a goal scoring opportunity.
What a start
I've enjoyed every minute of this tournament so far. Hope it keeps on in this fashion!Quote:
Originally Posted by PontBlue