Election issues: Tax and public services

There needs to be better performance management in the civil service, budget responsibilities are suspect or non existence, who checks on how the money is spent , workers have very decent pensions , flexible working , more leave than your private worker. Mgrs are well paid .
When it comes to spending they are too quick to chuck money at non critical things sone if which are pure vanity projects.

It's easy to go bankrupt if your not bothered.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Interesting.... if that is all true.

(Is there a prize for the most words posted in a season?)

You always seem very pleased with yourself.

Are you are useful member of society? Just wondering.

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I like him.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

I like him.

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Maybe because you are him?

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Originally Posted by life on mars

There needs to be better performance management in the civil service, budget responsibilities are suspect or non existence, who checks on how the money is spent , workers have very decent pensions , flexible working , more leave than your private worker. Mgrs are well paid .
When it comes to spending they are too quick to chuck money at non critical things sone if which are pure vanity projects.

It's easy to go bankrupt if your not bothered.

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Not keen on turning worker against worker but since you took us there.. pensions are shite in the private sector because nobody can bring themselves to legislate decent pensions into existence. Most public sector pension schemes have been weakened and weakened over the last decade or so and public sector pay has fallen in real terms whilst private sector pay has risen. Now, the reason for that may well be because those at the top of the private sector are on a massive cash grab but that isn't your average public sector workers problem.

As for the original post, until social care is removed from local government balance sheet, people are going to look at their council tax bill and think '**** me, it can't cost that much to take the bins once a fortnight'

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Originally Posted by az city

Maybe because you are him?

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Keyser Soze might be cringey but don't do this to him :hehe:

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Originally Posted by az city

Maybe because you are him?

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Wrong horse.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Wrong horse.

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Same stable.

Loaded magazine has been relaunched apparently and it’s seemingly being aimed at the same people who read it in the nineties (Liz Hurley is the relaunched magazines first cover girl). Sorry, he seems knowledgeable in a range of subjects, but since learning this, I can’t read anything Keyser Soze posts without thinking of him as the personification of the market the new Loaded is targeting- he’s very 90s laddish isn’t he.

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Originally Posted by az city

Same stable.

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Similar stable maybe - but LoM is not one of the multis adopted by a certain individual on here.

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

As for the original post, until social care is removed from local government balance sheet, people are going to look at their council tax bill and think '**** me, it can't cost that much to take the bins once a fortnight'

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Yep. Council tax makes up a relative low amount of all council income. Most comes from Westminster and is redistributed by WG. That has been cut constantly over the last 14 years. There was also another sleight of hand a few years ago. Councils used to send business rates back to the treasury but the Conservative government changed the rules allowing councils to keep that money and have reductions in what was given to them from Westminster. As a result, councils in affluent areas that could command good money from business rates did ok, while poorer councils couldn't raise as much as they lost out on.

But as you say, lots of people don't realise things like this. All they see are council tax bills going up but less to show for it. In case anyone things I'm making any of this up, I was able to get a Conservative councillor to agree that this was indeed the case.