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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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splott parker
I hope the crowd is about 200,000, £350 won’t go far.
Ha, £350k!
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Re: Caernarfon Town
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
Alan Lung beat you to it.
I was doing a bit of research on ground capacities and was going to suggest the old Maracana. I did read Alan’s post and the £350 was worth a New York, New York. Thanks for your help :thumbup:
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Re: Caernarfon Town
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
I was doing a bit of research on ground capacities and was going to suggest the old Maracana. I did read Alan’s post and the £350 was worth a New York, New York. Thanks for your help :thumbup:
Always here for the elderly in need. Can you imagine a stadium like that these days? You'd need excellent traffic management and public transport. They wouldn't be allowed to use it at full capacity these days.
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Dembe
Always here for the elderly in need. Can you imagine a stadium like that these days? You'd need excellent traffic management and public transport. They wouldn't be allowed to use it at full capacity these days.
That Brazil/Uruguay game in 1950 must have been mental, 200,000 estimated attendance, could well have been more.
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splott parker
That Brazil/Uruguay game in 1950 must have been mental, 200,000 estimated attendance, could well have been more.
Thats quite a lot to comprehend, all I can think of is the chaos getting in and out and too and from etc :hehe:
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
TNS have a massive game tonight, 1-0 down from the away first leg. If they manage to overturn it they're in the Europa League play off or at least the Conference League group stage! Wonder if/how much the Moldovans have played on an artificial pitch before?
Probably the biggest game in domestic Welsh football ever?
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
Wozza16
Probably the biggest game in domestic Welsh football ever?
I reckon Barry Town playing (and beating) Porto in the Champions League could be considered bigger.
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I reckon Barry Town playing (and beating) Porto in the Champions League could be considered bigger.
Not to mention Merthyr v Atalanta
City v Real
City v Hamburg
The list goes on.
Wozza, you. Just be no older than about 20 :)
Bottom line the Welsh League is of a poor standard, maybe except TNS.
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I more so meant in terms of significance of what it means, not as in who the opponent is. If TNS win they are guaranteed an insane amount of money, more than any Welsh club has "won" before? Probably in the region of £3-4 million pounds
Porto are undoubtably bigger than Petrocub...
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
Wozza16
I more so meant in terms of significance of what it means, not as in who the opponent is. If TNS win they are guaranteed an insane amount of money, more than any Welsh club has "won" before? Probably in the region of £3-4 million pounds.
If that's true (and I've no reason to doubt you), it only highlights how insane European football has become.
TNS's attendances for their two home European games so far this season:
810 v Decic Tuzi (whoever they may be)
1,022 v Ferencvaros
To put that into perspective, Tamworth v Sutton drew a crowd of 1,676 in the National League on Saturday.
From what I can gather, TNS have already been knocked out of the Champions League and may be knocked out of the Europa League this evening, but they may still end up in the Europa Conference League. Is that right? If so, it's crazy.
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I think it's a fair shout to say it's Welsh Premiers biggest ever game. The conference league group stage prize money would knock others out of the park. It would also help TNS to compete with Irish, N.Irish even some Scottish clubs for players.
The irony is a win for TNS would also be one of the worst results as their domestic dominance would only grow
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
Talksport
Not to mention Merthyr v Atalanta
City v Real
City v Hamburg
The list goes on.
Wozza, you. Just be no older than about 20 :)
Bottom line the Welsh League is of a poor standard, maybe except TNS.
Wozza said Welsh domestic football, Merthyr & Cardiff don't play in the Welsh domestic football system
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
I think it's a fair shout to say it's Welsh Premiers biggest ever game. The conference league group stage prize money would knock others out of the park. It would also help TNS to compete with Irish, N.Irish even some Scottish clubs for players.
The irony is a win for TNS would also be one of the worst results as their domestic dominance would only grow
Yeah it's definitely a bittersweet thing for me, I want TNS to do well so it brings more money into Welsh football but also don't want them to because everyone else already can't compete.
Briton Ferry had around 1400 last weekend for their Cymru Premier debut which is a positive, ex-city James Crole scoring 2 on his debut
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
Is the TNS game on telly ?
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
G rangetown Blue
Is the TNS game on telly ?
Don't think so, it's on the Henstone Distillery website for some reason
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
City123
Don't think so, it's on the Henstone Distillery website for some reason
Bit random... thanks!
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
G rangetown Blue
Is the TNS game on telly ?
Seemingly not, which is a shame
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
Wozza16
Yeah it's definitely a bittersweet thing for me, I want TNS to do well so it brings more money into Welsh football but also don't want them to because everyone else already can't compete.
Briton Ferry had around 1400 last weekend for their Cymru Premier debut which is a positive, ex-city James Crole scoring 2 on his debut
Yeah I saw that crowd. Very impressive, and at a club that doesn't really have a history of big crowds.
It is tricky really but on balance I want TNS to win. It's good for the league and would help to improve the Uefa Coefficients etc. That kind of funding you would hope would see some trickle down to other Welsh Premier teams too
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Red card for TNS just before half time. Really silly.
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And now a red for Petrocub
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Shame really. I think they have a tough play off to get into the conference league now. I can't remember who but I did check earlier, so it seems less likely to happen
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Shame really. I think they have a tough play off to get into the conference league now. I can't remember who but I did check earlier, so it seems less likely to happen
https://faw.cymru/cymru-leagues/news...ory-in-europe/
"Meanwhile, the losers will have one more opportunity to reach the UEFA Conference League league stage in a play-off in that competition against the losers of the UEFA Europa League third qualifying round tie between Lithuania’s FK Panevėžys or Maccabi Tel-Aviv of Israel."
The second leg of that one is on Thursday evening in Hungary, with Maccabi Tel Aviv 2-1 up from the first leg, so it's likely to be against FK Panevėžys.
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Also - FK Panevėžys were Lithuanian champions in 2023 (it's a summer league) but are currently having a poor season and are 9th out of 10 with 24 matches played.
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Geraint Pillock
Also - FK Panevėžys were Lithuanian champions in 2023 (it's a summer league) but are currently having a poor season and are 9th out of 10 with 24 matches played.
It's likely to be Tel Aviv surely? They already lead from the away leg
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
It's likely to be Tel Aviv surely? They already lead from the away leg
"Meanwhile, the losers will have one more opportunity to reach the UEFA Conference League league stage in a play-off in that competition against the losers of the UEFA Europa League third qualifying round tie between Lithuania’s FK Panevėžys or Maccabi Tel-Aviv of Israel."
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
Geraint Pillock
"Meanwhile, the losers will have one more opportunity to reach the UEFA Conference League league stage in a play-off in that competition against the losers of the UEFA Europa League third qualifying round tie between Lithuania’s FK Panevėžys or Maccabi Tel-Aviv of Israel."
Sorry, of course! That makes much more sense 🥴
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
Two big games tonight.
TNS first leg which is winnable. Also Larne from Northern Ireland, who are traditionally one of the smaller clubs also have a winnable first leg tie.
Winners go into the conference league and receive around £3m apparently. A huge sum at their level
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Two big games tonight.
TNS first leg which is winnable. Also Larne from Northern Ireland, who are traditionally one of the smaller clubs also have a winnable first leg tie.
Winners go into the conference league and receive around £3m apparently. A huge sum at their level
Got to be TNS' best chance
Think Larne have some big financial backing a bit like TNS
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
City123
Got to be TNS' best chance
Think Larne have some big financial backing a bit like TNS
Yeah I assumed that too. They get 2000 or so a game mind. Linfield I know get about double that. It's a much bigger league than the Cymru Premier and arguably underachieving.
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JamesWales
Yeah I assumed that too. They get 2000 or so a game mind. Linfield I know get about double that. It's a much bigger league than the Cymru Premier and arguably underachieving.
Benefits of your biggest clubs playing in it I guess
Sometimes wondered what the development of Cardiff would have been like had we not joined the EFL and instead always been part of a Welsh system. Would it still be Cardiff City, Swansea City etc or would there be a number of Cardiff, Newport and Swansea clubs in the top flight like NI and ROI? Think Belfast has 4 of the 12 NI top flight clubs and 5 of the 10 LOI clubs are based in Dublin
Would half of us be Ely Rangers fans? :hehe:
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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City123
Sometimes wondered what the development of Cardiff would have been like had we not joined the EFL and instead always been part of a Welsh system
As you probably know, Cardiff City were in Southern League before joining the Football League.
I very much doubt Cardiff City would have ever become a professional football club and built Ninian Park if playing in the Welsh league was the height of its ambitions.
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The Lone Gunman
I very much doubt Cardiff City would have ever become a professional football club and built Ninian Park if playing in the Welsh league was the height of its ambitions.
I'm inclined to agree
I think its an interesting counterfactual though, would a large Cardiff club eventually have developed or would, say, Riverside, Cathays, Ely have larger semi pro/pro clubs like you see in Ireland? What happens to Valleys clubs without Cardiff drawing a lot of their support?
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City123
I'm inclined to agree
I think its an interesting counterfactual though, would a large Cardiff club eventually have developed or would, say, Riverside, Cathays, Ely have larger semi pro/pro clubs like you see in Ireland? What happens to Valleys clubs without Cardiff drawing a lot of their support?
I've pondered this before. I've always concluded that an established Welsh league would have been somewhere in-between the Scottish league and the Northern Irish/Republic of Ireland league. I think proximity to English cities would have helped with the quality of players against the Irish leagues, but the population and lack of population centres etc would have meant we didn't evolve to be as strong as the Scottish league.
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TNS 2-0 up away to Paneveys, Daniel Williams just scored an absolute cracker. Its live on S4C website.
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
Cardiff Ultra
TNS 2-0 up away to Paneveys, Daniel Williams just scored an absolute cracker. Its live on S4C website.
It's live on the YouTube link I posted immediately above your post. It is Sgorio's YouTube channel.
That was the worst refereeing decision I have ever seen.
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The two footed tackle? 3-0 now.
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Originally Posted by
severncity
It's live on the YouTube link I posted immediately above your post. It is Sgorio's YouTube channel.
That was the worst refereeing decision I have ever seen.
Shocking
So how do TNS f*ck it up from here?
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
If It would be great for the Welsh League if TNS get to the Conference League in terms of profile and ranking points, if terrible in terms of competitive balance.
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Re: Cymru premier in Europe this week
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Cardiff Ultra
The two footed tackle? 3-0 now.
Yes it was a staggeringly bad decision. VAR recommended he review it and the ref stuck with the yellow!