'Mind the gap' - Trump handcuffed for two months as Biden starts pressing green buttons!

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

As in the phrase 'nuclear Armageddon', for example, which I quoted previously. Also see the third meaning of the word in Wiktionary.

If you still have any difficulty I won't be submitting any further explanations.

I think the majority of posters understand the word in the context that it was originally raised by the post I responded to. If you don't, that's your shortfall.

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Another one from the Truthpaste stable with a fixation on Armageddon?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nato-alliances

Pete Hegseth, Trump’s nominee for secretary of defense, has attacked several key US alliances such as Nato, allied countries such as Turkey and international institutions such as the United Nations in two recent books, as well as saying US troops should not be bound by the Geneva conventions.

At the same time, the man who would head America’s gigantic military has tied US foreign policy almost entirely to the priority of Israel, a country of which he says: “If you love America, you should love Israel.”

Elsewhere, Hegseth appears to argue that the US military should ignore the Geneva conventions and any international laws governing the conduct of war, and instead “unleash them” to become a “ruthless”, “uncompromising” and “overwhelmingly lethal” force geared to “winning our wars according to our own rules”.

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Tom Hill, executive director of the Center for Peace and Diplomacy (CPD), told the Guardian that Hegseth’s nomination reflected the fact that for Donald Trump, “one of the bases of support he owes is the Christian nationalist evangelical movement”.

In Hegseth, “what he is offering is Israel policy and a warping of foreign policy around Israel as a reward to this Christian nationalist base,” said Hill.

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“Our present moment is much like the 11th century,” he writes in AC, adding: “We don’t want to fight, but, like our fellow Christians a thousand years ago, we must. We need an American crusade.”

He adds: “We Christians – alongside our Jewish friends and their remarkable army in Israel – need to pick up the sword of unapologetic Americanism and defend ourselves.”

Hegseth continues: “For us as American crusaders, Israel embodies the soul of our American crusade – the ‘why’ to our ‘what’.”

Hegseth concludes: “Faith, family, freedom, and free enterprise; if you love those, learn to love the state of Israel. And then find an arena in which to fight for her.”

Hill said Hegseth’s Christian nationalism, rooted in fundamentalist Christianity, is key to understanding his perspective on Israel.

“He is centering Israel in everything because of theology,” he said. “There’s an eschatology and a prophetic interpretation the Book of Revelations – the Second Coming, Armageddon, the return of Jesus that is really important, and Israel is central to that eschatology.”

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Hegseth writes in AC that Israel, along with the European far right and Brexit, are among the overseas reservoirs of American values.

“Americanism is alive in Israel, where Benjamin Netanyahu boldly stands against international antisemitism and Islamism,” he writes.

Hegseth continues: “Americanism is alive in the hearts of Brexiters in the United Kingdom who yearn for national sovereignty. Americanism is alive in places such as Poland, which reject the globalist visions of leftist bureaucrats in old Europe.”

Israel, meanwhile, “continues to vanquish its Islamist foes – thanks to the big, beautiful wall and big, beautiful army it has built,” he writes.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Another one from the Truthpaste stable with a fixation on Armageddon?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nato-alliances

Pete Hegseth, Trump’s nominee for secretary of defense, has attacked several key US alliances such as Nato, allied countries such as Turkey and international institutions such as the United Nations in two recent books, as well as saying US troops should not be bound by the Geneva conventions.

At the same time, the man who would head America’s gigantic military has tied US foreign policy almost entirely to the priority of Israel, a country of which he says: “If you love America, you should love Israel.”

Elsewhere, Hegseth appears to argue that the US military should ignore the Geneva conventions and any international laws governing the conduct of war, and instead “unleash them” to become a “ruthless”, “uncompromising” and “overwhelmingly lethal” force geared to “winning our wars according to our own rules”.

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Tom Hill, executive director of the Center for Peace and Diplomacy (CPD), told the Guardian that Hegseth’s nomination reflected the fact that for Donald Trump, “one of the bases of support he owes is the Christian nationalist evangelical movement”.

In Hegseth, “what he is offering is Israel policy and a warping of foreign policy around Israel as a reward to this Christian nationalist base,” said Hill.

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“Our present moment is much like the 11th century,” he writes in AC, adding: “We don’t want to fight, but, like our fellow Christians a thousand years ago, we must. We need an American crusade.”

He adds: “We Christians – alongside our Jewish friends and their remarkable army in Israel – need to pick up the sword of unapologetic Americanism and defend ourselves.”

Hegseth continues: “For us as American crusaders, Israel embodies the soul of our American crusade – the ‘why’ to our ‘what’.”

Hegseth concludes: “Faith, family, freedom, and free enterprise; if you love those, learn to love the state of Israel. And then find an arena in which to fight for her.”

Hill said Hegseth’s Christian nationalism, rooted in fundamentalist Christianity, is key to understanding his perspective on Israel.

“He is centering Israel in everything because of theology,” he said. “There’s an eschatology and a prophetic interpretation the Book of Revelations – the Second Coming, Armageddon, the return of Jesus that is really important, and Israel is central to that eschatology.”

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Hegseth writes in AC that Israel, along with the European far right and Brexit, are among the overseas reservoirs of American values.

“Americanism is alive in Israel, where Benjamin Netanyahu boldly stands against international antisemitism and Islamism,” he writes.

Hegseth continues: “Americanism is alive in the hearts of Brexiters in the United Kingdom who yearn for national sovereignty. Americanism is alive in places such as Poland, which reject the globalist visions of leftist bureaucrats in old Europe.”

Israel, meanwhile, “continues to vanquish its Islamist foes – thanks to the big, beautiful wall and big, beautiful army it has built,” he writes.

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Jesus (had it ever existed) would be so proud.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Another one from the Truthpaste stable with a fixation on Armageddon?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nato-alliances

Pete Hegseth, Trump’s nominee for secretary of defense, has attacked several key US alliances such as Nato, allied countries such as Turkey and international institutions such as the United Nations in two recent books, as well as saying US troops should not be bound by the Geneva conventions.

At the same time, the man who would head America’s gigantic military has tied US foreign policy almost entirely to the priority of Israel, a country of which he says: “If you love America, you should love Israel.”

Elsewhere, Hegseth appears to argue that the US military should ignore the Geneva conventions and any international laws governing the conduct of war, and instead “unleash them” to become a “ruthless”, “uncompromising” and “overwhelmingly lethal” force geared to “winning our wars according to our own rules”.

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Tom Hill, executive director of the Center for Peace and Diplomacy (CPD), told the Guardian that Hegseth’s nomination reflected the fact that for Donald Trump, “one of the bases of support he owes is the Christian nationalist evangelical movement”.

In Hegseth, “what he is offering is Israel policy and a warping of foreign policy around Israel as a reward to this Christian nationalist base,” said Hill.

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“Our present moment is much like the 11th century,” he writes in AC, adding: “We don’t want to fight, but, like our fellow Christians a thousand years ago, we must. We need an American crusade.”

He adds: “We Christians – alongside our Jewish friends and their remarkable army in Israel – need to pick up the sword of unapologetic Americanism and defend ourselves.”

Hegseth continues: “For us as American crusaders, Israel embodies the soul of our American crusade – the ‘why’ to our ‘what’.”

Hegseth concludes: “Faith, family, freedom, and free enterprise; if you love those, learn to love the state of Israel. And then find an arena in which to fight for her.”

Hill said Hegseth’s Christian nationalism, rooted in fundamentalist Christianity, is key to understanding his perspective on Israel.

“He is centering Israel in everything because of theology,” he said. “There’s an eschatology and a prophetic interpretation the Book of Revelations – the Second Coming, Armageddon, the return of Jesus that is really important, and Israel is central to that eschatology.”

....

Hegseth writes in AC that Israel, along with the European far right and Brexit, are among the overseas reservoirs of American values.

“Americanism is alive in Israel, where Benjamin Netanyahu boldly stands against international antisemitism and Islamism,” he writes.

Hegseth continues: “Americanism is alive in the hearts of Brexiters in the United Kingdom who yearn for national sovereignty. Americanism is alive in places such as Poland, which reject the globalist visions of leftist bureaucrats in old Europe.”

Israel, meanwhile, “continues to vanquish its Islamist foes – thanks to the big, beautiful wall and big, beautiful army it has built,” he writes.

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Keep up, it was your Blue side-kick that referenced the Bible's account of Armageddon (Clue: there is no other account), not me; I simply questioned him on it.

And if you are going to mention eschatology and how Israel fits into the equation, try and get a grasp of the subject otherwise we end up with a massive cut and paste that proves you don't know which way is up.

Nice effort though.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Keep up, it was your Blue side-kick that referenced the Bible's account of Armageddon (Clue: there is no other account), not me; I simply questioned him on it.

And if you are going to mention eschatology and how Israel fits into the equation, try and get a grasp of the subject otherwise we end up with a massive cut and paste that proves you don't know which way is up.

Nice effort though.

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Tom Hill mentioned it. He was quoted. It is just a thumbnail sketch of some of the reasons for Christian Zionist's extreme racist and reactionary views.

Useful background I thought - and enough of a grasp of the subject for anyone. It was a nice effort though. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Another one from the Truthpaste stable with a fixation on Armageddon?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nato-alliances

Pete Hegseth, Trump’s nominee for secretary of defense, has attacked several key US alliances such as Nato, allied countries such as Turkey and international institutions such as the United Nations in two recent books, as well as saying US troops should not be bound by the Geneva conventions.

At the same time, the man who would head America’s gigantic military has tied US foreign policy almost entirely to the priority of Israel, a country of which he says: “If you love America, you should love Israel.”

Elsewhere, Hegseth appears to argue that the US military should ignore the Geneva conventions and any international laws governing the conduct of war, and instead “unleash them” to become a “ruthless”, “uncompromising” and “overwhelmingly lethal” force geared to “winning our wars according to our own rules”.

....

Tom Hill, executive director of the Center for Peace and Diplomacy (CPD), told the Guardian that Hegseth’s nomination reflected the fact that for Donald Trump, “one of the bases of support he owes is the Christian nationalist evangelical movement”.

In Hegseth, “what he is offering is Israel policy and a warping of foreign policy around Israel as a reward to this Christian nationalist base,” said Hill.

....

“Our present moment is much like the 11th century,” he writes in AC, adding: “We don’t want to fight, but, like our fellow Christians a thousand years ago, we must. We need an American crusade.”

He adds: “We Christians – alongside our Jewish friends and their remarkable army in Israel – need to pick up the sword of unapologetic Americanism and defend ourselves.”

Hegseth continues: “For us as American crusaders, Israel embodies the soul of our American crusade – the ‘why’ to our ‘what’.”

Hegseth concludes: “Faith, family, freedom, and free enterprise; if you love those, learn to love the state of Israel. And then find an arena in which to fight for her.”

Hill said Hegseth’s Christian nationalism, rooted in fundamentalist Christianity, is key to understanding his perspective on Israel.

“He is centering Israel in everything because of theology,” he said. “There’s an eschatology and a prophetic interpretation the Book of Revelations – the Second Coming, Armageddon, the return of Jesus that is really important, and Israel is central to that eschatology.”

....

Hegseth writes in AC that Israel, along with the European far right and Brexit, are among the overseas reservoirs of American values.

“Americanism is alive in Israel, where Benjamin Netanyahu boldly stands against international antisemitism and Islamism,” he writes.

Hegseth continues: “Americanism is alive in the hearts of Brexiters in the United Kingdom who yearn for national sovereignty. Americanism is alive in places such as Poland, which reject the globalist visions of leftist bureaucrats in old Europe.”

Israel, meanwhile, “continues to vanquish its Islamist foes – thanks to the big, beautiful wall and big, beautiful army it has built,” he writes.

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Truthpaste must be creaming over the prospect of Hegseth and the rest of Trump’s administration coming into power.

Does anyone know why the States has this two month delay between election and inauguration?

Presumably another "balance of powers" safeguard, but it does create a strange period such as we are in now.

I'm sure other countries do it and power vacuums are normal in continental Europe with PR negotiations but it does always strike me as strange

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Does anyone know why the States has this two month delay between election and inauguration?

Presumably another "balance of powers" safeguard, but it does create a strange period such as we are in now.

I'm sure other countries do it and power vacuums are normal in continental Europe with PR negotiations but it does always strike me as strange

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Lots of these things are from days of stagecoaches in the late 18th century. States would send electors to report back with who the state wanted as president, and it would take weeks do the counting, traveling, meeting, before the president is even confirmed.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Does anyone know why the States has this two month delay between election and inauguration?

Presumably another "balance of powers" safeguard, but it does create a strange period such as we are in now.

I'm sure other countries do it and power vacuums are normal in continental Europe with PR negotiations but it does always strike me as strange

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Can you not wait for the Annoying Orange to get into power?

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Originally Posted by lardy

Lots of these things are from days of stagecoaches in the late 18th century. States would send electors to report back with who the state wanted as president, and it would take weeks do the counting, traveling, meeting, before the president is even confirmed.

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Very interesting!

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Originally Posted by stevo

Can you not wait for the Annoying Orange to get into power?

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Quite looking forward to it now tbh.

But irrespective of that, it's a curious delay that I don't think many other countries do?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Quite looking forward to it now tbh.

But irrespective of that, it's a curious delay that I don't think many other countries do?

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Amen to that :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Quite looking forward to it now tbh.

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Classy. You're looking forward to Trump. You are a complete idiot. End of.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Amen to that :thumbup:

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You're looking forward to Trump too? What is wrong with you people?

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Originally Posted by az city

Classy. You're looking forward to Trump. You are a complete idiot. End of.

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Fk me, you are boring 😀

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Fk me, you are boring 😀

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He has a point though.

After reading this thread, I have come to the conclusion that brainwashing and mind control are a real phenomena!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

After reading this thread, I have come to the conclusion that brainwashing and mind control are a real phenomena!

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We can all sleep well knowing you’ve passed judgement. Cheers mate

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Amen to that :thumbup:

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At the risk of turning this into another religious debate thread how do you square "grab em by the pussy" with the teachings of Christ, that must take some mental gymnastics :sherlock:

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Originally Posted by delmbox

At the risk of turning this into another religious debate thread how do you square "grab em by the pussy" with the teachings of Christ, that must take some mental gymnastics :sherlock:

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^^^ Absolutely this. Not to mention all his other actions that fly in the face of Christianity. But as Truthpaste has already told us, it’s up to God to judge him, not us. Go figure.

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Originally Posted by delmbox

At the risk of turning this into another religious debate thread how do you square "grab em by the pussy" with the teachings of Christ, that must take some mental gymnastics :sherlock:

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He's a crude and irreverent character, no doubt about that. I doubt many would have voted for him on those traits.

However, if moral purity is a key factor, isn't it hard to vote for anyone? Probably the party selling all the weapons to Israel which are being used to kill civilians is not top of the list either. A few mental gymnastics required for some there too.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

He's a crude and irreverent character, no doubt about that. I doubt many would have voted for him on those traits.

However, if moral purity is a key factor, isn't it hard to vote for anyone? Probably the party selling all the weapons to Israel which are being used to kill civilians is not top of the list either. A few mental gymnastics required for some there too.

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Undoubtedly. I've just always been curious as to how Christians make that work in their head with Trump and being that we've got a clearly pro Trump Super Christian here I thought it was a good chance to ask

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Originally Posted by stevo

^^^ Absolutely this. Not to mention all his other actions that fly in the face of Christianity. But as Truthpaste has already told us, it’s up to God to judge him, not us. Go figure.

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Some of his actions are anti-Christian, but others are very Christian; his opposition to "planned parenthood" is more than welcome to those who value the sanctity of life. Planned parenthood state on their website - "Abortion is a safe and legal way to end a pregnancy. Learning more about abortion methods and options can help you decide if it is the right choice for you".

The right choice for YOU. God sees the unborn child and values it; yet the baby is not valued in similar terms by PP.

"Since the U.S. Supreme Court issued its landmark decision in 1973 to legalize abortion, over 60 million preborn have been killed by elective abortion. While alive in the womb, these preborn are abandoned and not protected under current law."

“I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion, has already been born.” - Ronald Reagan.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

He's a crude and irreverent character, no doubt about that. I doubt many would have voted for him on those traits.

However, if moral purity is a key factor, isn't it hard to vote for anyone? Probably the party selling all the weapons to Israel which are being used to kill civilians is not top of the list either. A few mental gymnastics required for some there too.

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You know that the whole Israel thing is going to get a whole lot worse in that respect when Trump brings in the likes of Hegseth into his administration ?

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Some of his actions are anti-Christian, but others are very Christian; his opposition to "planned parenthood" is more than welcome to those who value the sanctity of life. Planned parenthood state on their website - "Abortion is a safe and legal way to end a pregnancy. Learning more about abortion methods and options can help you decide if it is the right choice for you".

The right choice for YOU. God sees the unborn child and values it; yet the baby is not valued in similar terms by PP.

"Since the U.S. Supreme Court issued its landmark decision in 1973 to legalize abortion, over 60 million preborn have been killed by elective abortion. While alive in the womb, these preborn are abandoned and not protected under current law."

“I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion, has already been born.” - Ronald Reagan.

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Is it just abortion or the unwavering support they’re going to give Israel and their anti-Muslim tendencies?

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Originally Posted by stevo

You know that the whole Israel thing is going to get a whole lot worse in that respect when Trump brings in the likes of Hegseth into his administration ?

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Is it? Maybe. Maybe not.

I'm just giving an example of how different people overcome things and still vote a certain way.

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Originally Posted by goats

It seems pointless antagonising the loon for the next 8 weeks, the Russians aren’t really making much progress and have resorted to using foreign troops which kind of indicates they might be running low. Are they still losing 800 dead or injured everyday?
Ukraine might aswell give up the donbass area and strike a peace deal until Putins gone at least. Obviously relations between them will never heal and Russia will be subjected to terrorism for decades to come from Ukrainians a bit like we already have with the jihadists.

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I think Mr. Pootin sent a message the other night with his hyper sonic missiles let's hope Starmer and buddies think hard before escalating further.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

I think Mr. Pootin sent a message the other night with his hyper sonic missiles let's hope Starmer and buddies think hard before escalating further.

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So Putin sends hyper sonic missiles and it's the other side who needs to think hard about escalation?

I say poke the bear even more.

Come and have a go if you think you’re hard enough.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

After reading this thread, I have come to the conclusion that brainwashing and mind control are a real phenomena!

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MK Ultra

"Q"

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Originally Posted by lardy

So Putin sends hyper sonic missiles and it's the other side who needs to think hard about escalation?

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Yes most definitely. It's not my fault pootin invaded Ukraine I wish he hadn't.
Being virtuous or correct isn't going to solve anything. Pootin should pull all forces out of Ukraine say sorry and face a war crimes panel, it isn't going to happen. What's the next best option ? The west does not appear to have anything to match the hyper sonic stuff of Russia, would you like a nuclear escalation ?
I'm all ears, what should happen next ?.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Some of his actions are anti-Christian, but others are very Christian

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So this is the justification for terrible behaviour? Great! Sounds like Jesus gives us all a free pass as long as we offset :easy:

It will be interesting to see what massive Government cuts Trump and Elon make, AI will obliterate it and take so many jobs out. Whatever happens in the US comes here a few years later.

The World is going to change so much over the next four years.

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Originally Posted by az city

You're looking forward to Trump too? What is wrong with you people?

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Hey AZ have you seen the videos on Twitter this morning of Kamala ranting absolutely bolloxed 🤣🤣🤣 for all of trumps faults and he doubled down on his biggest one this week, if she was the credible alternative I think you just dodged a bullet. A drunk with the nuclear codes is a big no thanks from me
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Originally Posted by delmbox

So this is the justification for terrible behaviour? Great! Sounds like Jesus gives us all a free pass as long as we offset :easy:

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Are you able to cast the first stone?

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

I think Mr. Pootin sent a message the other night with his hyper sonic missiles let's hope Starmer and buddies think hard before escalating further.

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I don't think anyone imagined that Putin was restricted by any internal legislation or regulations as to what he does. He could rename the days of the week tomorrow if he wanted to. It was purely symbolic.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

I don't think anyone imagined that Putin was restricted by any internal legislation or regulations as to what he does. He could rename the days of the week tomorrow if he wanted to. It was purely symbolic.

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I don't disagree TBG.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

After reading this thread, I have come to the conclusion that brainwashing and mind control are a real phenomena!

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So what phenomena is at work here?

"I just have to remind you..."

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

So what phenomena is at work here?

"I just have to remind you..."

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I think her puppet masters deliberately let her go
out pissed to ensure she is never seen again as a potential CIC, their plan back fired spectacularly and she is being put out to graze. Kamala was anointed by the Democrat elite and not elected by their base.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Yes most definitely. It's not my fault pootin invaded Ukraine I wish he hadn't.
Being virtuous or correct isn't going to solve anything. Pootin should pull all forces out of Ukraine say sorry and face a war crimes panel, it isn't going to happen. What's the next best option ? The west does not appear to have anything to match the hyper sonic stuff of Russia, would you like a nuclear escalation ?
I'm all ears, what should happen next ?.

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If I'm reading you right, you think there's a chance Starmer is going to start a nuclear war? I can't see that happening at all.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Are you able to cast the first stone?

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Depends on the stone really. Am I without sin? No. Am I without sexual assault and talking about grabbing women by the pussy? Big yes.

So am I right in thinking the mental gymnastics you perform regarding Trump are that you have sinned therefore you won't judge him for sinning? Sorry if I've misunderstood, it's just that you haven't made the slightest attempt in answering my question, which was "how do you square "grab em by the pussy" with the teachings of Christ"