Said, without a hint of irony!Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
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Said, without a hint of irony!Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Hey Cyril, this isn’t aimed at you specifically even though I addressed you.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
This goes out to everyone across the political spectrum regardless of where your view lands as to what’s best for Wales, The UK and The West in general (That’s not to disregard other parts of the world of course, just speaking about what most of us grew up with and live in).
Do you lads see a pathway in the near future to discuss issues with civility?
Would people rather be proved correct in their views or be proven wrong if things do somehow take an uptick?
This is coming from someone who thinks that he’s The Oracle on many things and has been bombastic about them…but I would love to be wrong for the betterment of things.
Can we make concessions that things might be for the greater good even though it goes against your immediate judgment?
With modern leaders of the world, I grant that the greater good is the furthest things from their minds…still, hypothetically?
How many of you have friends diametrically opposite to you politically?
I walk a tight rope a lot as things are so bad here at times that bar fights break out and neighbors stop talking to each other.
Polarized, entrenched politics is the biggest regression that we have made in my lifetime.
Quite a lot of questions there on the back of a one-liner highlighting the irony of someone suggesting James's kids should become immigrants in search of a better life in a thread called immigration levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
I think we see this part of the Board in slightly different ways. The political or philosophical views expressed here seem mainly projections of people's personalities first and foremost. In that scenario the subject matter is often irrelevant or unimportant. Being seen in your own mind to be right and chasing often arcane points to reinforce this is what matters. Either that or they derive some pleasure out of taking the piss and rubbishing others views.
I believe that covers the majority of the regular posters here, including me! There are people like Jon who regularly post out of principle but they are the exception rather than the rule.
I think that covers the likelihood of behavioural change from your first few questions. As far as friendships are concerned it is almost certain that far more of my friends don't share my political views than do. A few outflank me on the left but mostly on the right.
In this part of my life we probably bite our tongues more on the odd occasions we discuss beliefs because we value friendship above those tenets.
On here, not so much. Personally I don't see anything wrong with that either as long as things don't stray into petty or tedious abuse. I found Organ Morgan's views off the scale for instance but I don't believe we were uncivil towards each other compared with say TWGL1 or other banned posters.
In general, if people derive some gratification from their posting persona here, even if that includes getting a bit triggered or combative every now and then I don't think the discourse is harmful. Unless of course if your personality is such that you think you have special skills and can't cope when shown to be wrong. But that is a discussion for another day.
Thank You for such a considered response to what was really a barrage of questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
It really is spot on how I believe adults should behave.
As I said it wasn’t aimed at you personally… it was aimed at everyone, you just happened to rerun a serve to a post that was indeed dripping in irony.
My interest, worry or beef is Ad Hominem attacks.
I’m going to get pelters for this…and it’s on me for saying it. I personally think that the treatment of James Wales on here is appalling.
He could be diametrically opposed to posters politically here but quite reasonable, likable and charismatic if you were out drinking together.
There is also the possibility that he is a massive C**t, but unless you know him…Who’s to say?
It’s a mental platform where the written word is the only form of expression (not withstanding videos etc to back up a belief).
A few posters on here had boiled my piss for years and then usually the morning of a pissed up diatribe I find myself immersed in guilt or shame for being a dick myself.
I do believe we are in pastures new and I do honestly believe that civil discourse is inevitable. I wonder though how much of this down to the anger that people feel about issues in their daily life or how much is driven by words on any social media platform that are backed up by one echo chamber and attacked
by another echo chamber.
The big change of course is the speed in which one can get their views out there to either agree or attack.
This is obviously rudimentary thinking, it’s been picked up a gazillion times by whoever decides to throw their opinion about regarding Social Media.
We are, in my opinion a lot more unreasonable now.
Our attention spans or shorter now and vanity his increased to where we don’t live in the moment…we just want to catch the best photo to make people think that we are having the time of our lives and look tidy all the time.
Have a feeling that I’m typing off on a tangent but it is from the heart.
A simple “Your talking Bollocks, Son” used to work. I think I probably am right now.
I just want to see more civility towards each other. I’d like to be able to disagree with posters politically and still be able to think..fair play, food for thought there.
Ce Sera Sera.
Yes because where they go they won’t be relying on state handouts that’s for sure……:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
I've always been of the opinion that if a person is prepared to walk to France from Afghanistan, dodging Police, Border control, using survival methods, sourcing food, attempting to stay healthy, Living in a make shift bin for two years with a bin bag for a roof, then getting on an Amazon 29.99 family holiday Dinghy with 33 other people to cross the busiest shipping lane on Earth, then that'll do for me......
They deserve a knighthood and, at the very least, a good job!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
It's all types of immigration that's a mess, bringing six people on benefits to fill a carer's vacancy was feckin' criminal. The conservatives were almost as bad; it's bankrupting the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Illegal immigration costs a fortune proportionately, with no added value.
It's time to give Reform a try; they can't possibly do any worse.
There is so much wrong, I don't know where they will start.
The number on boats has doubled thats Labours fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
The pound will devalue like mad, money printing is how they will try and get out of this mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
No Covid, no Brexit, no real opposition in Westminster, just incompetence.
Nice and the jails are full already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Criminals love it, the police can't cope, we are soft, take years to get them to court when they are caught, and even if they go to jail, it's soft and they can do the time with nice beds food and tv.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
The figures quoted there are for 2023 to 2024Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Labour didn't come in till July 2024 , AFTER those figures were published
Labour are crap but the conservatives were far worse for the 14 years they were in power
Christ you are even more Daily Mail than the Daily MailQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
I'm not going to defend the conservatives; they are guilty as charged.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
They sometimes print the truth, same as the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Indeed :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
What a country :facepalm:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdd32lnq445o
To land in Great Yarmouth they would have had to have rowed from The Hague or somewhere similar in terms of distance, if they took a wrong turn from Calais then if they were immigrants, then they should be fast tracked for citizenship and be allowed to represent Great Britain in the next olympics, because that would take some doing, and we've never had much of a problem with pinching other countries athletes and giving them citizenship anyway. Lowe is a ****ing spanner.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I'm curious - your predictions are based on what expertise in monetary economics and finance?Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Reading the rag that is the Daily ExpressQuote:
Originally Posted by az city
That's brilliant 😂😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Bigoted daft old prick.