We needed a Mowbray

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

What was posted after Riza won a few games doesn't reflect the reality of the situation. The truth is some people were going way over the top about a couple of decent performances against two of the very weakest sides in the division and a couple of fortunate results against better sides.

This current City squad isn't a good one. It wasn't a good one last season, and the new recruits are mostly proving a desperate disappointment.

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Isn't that because they are lacking good management . Why was there such a furor to get Riza or anyone on a contract?

A good manager should get the best out of the players, I don't feel we are seeing the best of the players.

The away performances have been better than some of the dross we have been served up at home recently.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

What makes you think that only an old school manager is capable of organising, calming down and building confidence in players? I don't know if you have children, but would you insist on your kids having old school teachers in school as they're the only ones capable of organising, calming down and building confidence in pupils?

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Maybe not a good analogy, because my answer to that question would be yes.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

Isn't that because they are lacking good management.

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I'm not so sure.

I had high hopes for Chambers - I thought he'd cope with the Championship comfortably and improve the defence. He hasn't. Not at all.

Daland and Fish are largely unknow quantities - we haven't seen enough of either of them to be sure if they're any good or not.

Given his size, El Ghazi is amazingly lightweight. He's clearly a shadow of the player he once was. Doesn't look like he fancies it to me. Willock, meanwhile, has been a waste of a wage.

Kanga's just a joke of a signing. Utterly hopeless.

Of the new recruits, only Robertson has performed with any genuine credit, and he's clearly got a long way to go before he'd be considered one of the better midfielders at this level. Time is on his side and he has obvious talent, but he has plenty of work to do.

Overall, the summer recruitment was poor. Would a decent manager get more out of those players? You'd hope so, but I suspect the improvements would be marginal based on what we've seen so far.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I'm not so sure.

I had high hopes for Chambers - I thought he'd cope with the Championship comfortably and improve the defence. He hasn't. Not at all.

Daland and Fish are largely unknow quantities - we haven't seen enough of either of them to be sure if they're any good or not.

Given his size, El Ghazi is amazingly lightweight. He's clearly a shadow of the player he once was. Doesn't look like he fancies it to me. Willock, meanwhile, has been a waste of a wage.

Kanga's just a joke of a signing. Utterly hopeless.

Of the new recruits, only Robertson has performed with any genuine credit, and he's clearly got a long way to go before he'd be considered one of the better midfielders at this level. Time is on his side and he has obvious talent, but he has plenty of work to do.

Overall, the summer recruitment was poor. Would a decent manager get more out of those players? You'd hope so, but I suspect the improvements would be marginal based on what we've seen so far.

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El Ghazi was coming back from a year out with injury , then got injured again so better to come.

Willock has been ok in my eyes , hasnt really had a run in the team so once again better to come.

Kanga , even his defence lawyer couldn't put a case up for him.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

El Ghazi was coming back from a year out with injury , then got injured again so better to come.

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I don't think that's right. He had almost a year out because Mainz terminated his contract and then he was in dispute with them. He wasn't injured.

He was obviously going to take a little time to get up to speed after such a long lay-off, but he's shown little to suggest there's better to come. You'd hope there would be, but as I've already said - I don't think he fancies it.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I don't think that's right. He had almost a year out because Mainz terminated his contract and then he was in dispute with them. He wasn't injured.

He was obviously going to take a little time to get up to speed after such a long lay-off, but he's shown little to suggest there's better to come. You'd hope there would be, but as I've already said - I don't think he fancies it.

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I stand corrected, I knew he had a year out , he spoke on level 3 the other day , he sounded keen to show what he can do and stated he has more to give, made the right noises.
Lets hope he does have more to give.