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Yeah, exactly, it will just be the same old shit next season if we survive by a point or two. It’s overQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
No, never want to see him anywhere near our stadium again.
Nine years ago 100% yes, he would have these players organised and keeping clean sheets in two weeks, now he's too old.
We need the closest we can get to a Warnock in his heyday, and this week otherwise we have a 50% chance of relegation, we need to reduce those odds dramatically.
:hehe: Is this absolute truth or just your opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
According to who?Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
He came in nine years ago, you clown and got us a promotion the following season, so it was the absolute truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
The bookies have us fourth from bottom, but we looked terrible yesterday and Derby are picking up.
https://m.skybet.com/football/sky-be...-2425/33325187
Make yourself useful and do a bottom team's run in post, so we can see where the next points are commig from.
If long ball means clearing your lines when it is necessary to do so, then short term, it’s our Neil for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Yesterday when Luton had a free kick, I noticed one of our coaches had assumed that modern stance at the edge of the technical area, staring at the proceedings. The free kick routine was almost the same as the one where we conceded late-on against Sunderland. We were fortunate to get away with this one and the coach sat down.
A bit later, another dead ball kick from Luton, again the guy was standing there, we were almost undone again, but were FORTUNATE to get away with it. This time however, as the coach went back to his seat, his arms were held out wide, indicating a look of exasperation.
Maybe the players are following these new fangled coaching methods to the letter, instead of being ready to positively effect what is actually happening in real time.
We are now in crisis management time, things need to be kept simple and it doesn’t matter who the manager is. Omer Riza has had enough time to adjudge the character of those players who are ready for a fight. They need to play. There are under ten games left and in my opinion, we need round pegs in round holes. Whether that is Riza, our Neil or Uncle Tom Cobberly and all.
You said he'd some in, organise the defence and have us keeping clean sheets in 2 weeks. Are you still suggesting this is the absolute truth before I rinse you with stats?Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
With this squad a younger Warnock would, yes, it's organisation and accountability and knowing who your best back four are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Firstly, Warnock didn't play 'long ball'. Secondly, anything is batter than watching what I witnessed last night. And thirdly, you'd actually rather the Club be relegated to League 1 than stay up ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
1. What would you define it as?Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
2. Not some of the hoofball shit I saw under Warnock.
3. As I've said, I'm not bothered.
Here we go....Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Looking over 16 stints Warnock has had as manager of clubs since his first job in the Football League with Notts County, 5 times has his side opened with a clean sheet, although 2 of those occasions were in league cup ties. On 7 occasions did Warnock's side manage a clean sheet in their first two games, so on 9 occasions Warnock's side failed to get a clean sheet in their first 2 games.
I hear you mention a "younger Warnock". Well, in his stints from Notts County to Oldham, those 5 sides took 21 games to get a clean sheet. Huddersfield managed one in a league cup tie against lower division Scarborough but failed in their opening 9 league games to get a clean sheet. Oldham similarly managed a clean sheet in their second game, then failed to get another for 11 games.
His best spell like this was between his appointments at Palace and Rotherham, where he started with a clean sheet on 5 out of those 7 seasons (I didn't check up on his very brief second stint at QPR). Since then, it took Cardiff 7 games to get a clean sheet, Middlesbrough 6, Huddersfield 3 and Aberdeen 7 games.
My reason for doing this is your recent insistance on everything you say being a fact. You made a totally spurious claim that Warnock would come in and have us keeping clean sheets within 2 weeks, as if that would be guaranteed. It was total bollocks. He hasn't done that all that often in his career, certainly not 9 years ago. I was then called a clown when you tried to avoid your initial comment by saying he'd won us promotion - something absolutely true, but nothing to do with your clean sheets in 2 weeks comment. You further backtracked by suggesting a younger Warnock would have. Again, that's a load of bollocks.
I regularly pass comments on all sorts of things on here, lots of them may well be wrong, but I at least say they're my opinion, or it's what I believe to be true or accurate etc. I do my best not to pass off opinion as fact. You keep coming out with wild claims that wilt under a hint of scrutiny, but each time you keep arguing you are still right.
So, shall we have another go - are you standing by your claim that under which ever variety of Warnock, we'd be keeping clean sheets in 2 weeks (like that's some sort of guarantee), when there's no real suggestion of that in the stats?
I don't know why anybody trys it with Eric :hehe:
anyway, i'm of the belief that Mr Tan and his board of useless chair-people could do with a little humbling, as long as we keep hanging in there season after season they will keep patting each other on the back and no improvements will be made, my advice to the board:
1) get rid of the f***ing red squiggle on the badge immediately
2) hold your hands up and accept that a catalogue of poor decision making has broken this club, we were the daddy in this league
3) recruit a proper manager
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VOTE SPLOTT-LIGHT! VOTE SPLOTT-LIGHT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Splott-light...
We played Rino Goutas Daland COD for about 10 straight games when everyone was fit. It did not go well. Daland got hooked 3 times in 8 games for being horrifically bad. This squad is shocking. We have been here for 3 of 4 seasons, we don't have a good squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
No thanks!
Warnock would see this lot in training for a few days and then probably do what he did at Aberdeen, this team are the least suited to play Warnockball we’ve had in years - they’re too soft for a start.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Warnock would look at some of ours and decide to play Blackie and Jepson in the teamQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
They couldn’t be any slower in thought than some of ours
We’ve tried every other combination at the back, May as well chuck an ex keeper in there
I’m surprised our master tactician hasn’t done that yet
His best spell like this was between his appointments at Palace and Rotherham, where he started with a clean sheet on 5 out of those 7 seasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe: You've lost the plot - There's the evidence you dope :hehe::hehe: Or do you think Warnock was older then, than he is now :hehe::hehe:
Everyone knows that model of Warnock (younger than he is today because I know I have to spell things out for you) would sort these lot out in no time, you man Riza still hasn't got a clue yet who his best defence is :hehe:
He'd get something out of them. A bad manager will make an average team look bad, while a good manager will make an average team look good.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Warnock did a runner in his last job. He's a legacy to protect and would not want a relegation on his CV at this very late stage in his career - he'd be inherting a dressing room severely lacking in defensive leaders (the thing he has based his career on more than anything else I'd say) and, unless he had another Sol Bamba type ready to come in right away as a free agent, it'd be far less simple for him to turn our season around than some would imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
He's older now, and in his day, he could make average teams look good, while Riza is making this average team look rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
whats Mozza upto at the mo, he hasn't a club has he ? ?
Warnock with Mozza signed on as player coach ( for 3 , maybe 4 years )
Strange how past players who were given similar grief for their abilities in a Cardiff shirt are now plying their trade in other championship teams, arguably being more effective than the current squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
I've watched plenty of those below and noticed how much more comfortable in possession they are in a different environment.
Perhaps it's something to do with coaching!
Mark Harris (Oxford)
Ciaron Brown (Oxford)
Will Vaulks (Oxford)
Marlon Pack (Pompey)
Josh Murphy (Pompey)
Ebou Adams (Derby)
Nathaniel Mendez-Laing (Derby)
Curtis Nelson (Derby) injured
Callum Paterson (Sheff Wed)
Ike Ugbo (Sheff Wed)
How many would we want back, other than maybe Murphy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
Cardiff City has had this effect on so many players over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
A player can look great until they join us here - then their performances and abilities go into decline. A player can look bang average here - then they go elsewhere and shine.
I can't fathom it out, after 50+ years watching us.
In fairness Callum Paterson was clearly at his best with us - nothing he has done at Wednesday has come close to that - and he's often been a bit part player there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
Brown has had a good season, and we've been unable to find a central defensive pair all season, so I think he'd be the first on the list we'd want.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
True. The quality of his goal celebrations is abysmal compared to what we enjoyed here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
His forward-roll-somersault was my personal favourite.