COVID Lab leak theory, The Whitehouse updates

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I think loads of people knew it was relatively mild to the overwhelming majority and as you say, the parties are part of that.

I'm just wondering why people on here are talking about COVID denials, whilst simultaneously seeming to deny that the evidence now points to a lab link (and thus a massive cover up over something that killed millions and wrecked countless lives etc)?

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Because the CCMB massive spent 3 years calling us conspiracy theorists, they ain't going to consider anything other than what respective governments in lockstep told their citizens, Lardy has going on for 10 years form for Russian clusion even Cyril has abandoned him 😂, the fact that the Whitehouse put it out there I suspect that this isn't going to be the last of it, I don't have much satisfaction refusing the relentless pressure to take it (vaccine) because all my family did take it, I've had vaccines previously to COVID but I'll never take another one ever because of the obvious lies and propaganda with the COVID one.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Hang on, I posted links to the Germans and Americans saying it was likely a lab leak and you described it as
"Same horse, different jockey".

Isn't that you being potty?

I don't understand why some of you are so ambivalent about it, given the damage it did to our society. Imagine if the Trunp regime were trying to cover it up, how you would react then!

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For the avoidance of doubt

Trump and his mob are lying tossers

They are in it for themselves and only themselves

The German link is tenuous

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Because the CCMB massive spent 3 years calling us conspiracy theorists, they ain't going to consider anything other than what respective governments in lockstep told their citizens, Lardy has going on for 10 years form for Russian clusion even Cyril has abandoned him ��, the fact that the Whitehouse put it out there I suspect that this isn't going to be the last of it, I don't have much satisfaction refusing the relentless pressure to take it (vaccine) because all my family did take it, I've had vaccines previously to COVID but I'll never take another one ever because of the obvious lies and propaganda with the COVID one.

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You are a conspiracy theorist

And you are all over the alt right in America

You could set up a Cardiff branch of " Trump Is Misunderstood " and nobody would be surprised

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

For the avoidance of doubt

Trump and his mob are lying tossers

They are in it for themselves and only themselves

The German link is tenuous

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Yeah that doesn't really help avoid any doubt when you say it 😂

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You are a conspiracy theorist

And you are all over the alt right in America

You could set up a Cardiff branch of " Trump Is Misunderstood " and nobody would be surprised

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Aren't you the one spreading the conspiracy that these links are tenuous, with no evidence?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz7vypq31z7o

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ns-of-covid-19

Surely the truth matters? Why not seek it?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Aren't you the one spreading the conspiracy that these links are tenuous, with no evidence?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz7vypq31z7o

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ns-of-covid-19

Surely the truth matters? Why not seek it?

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There's no evidence , in these two links you have already posted by the way that the lab theory is correct

In fact the words " low confidence " are used

I am happy for any " truth " to come out should that be the point of all this but it's not forthcoming

Are we talking about the same alt right who thought bleach might be a good solution to the problem?

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Originally Posted by stevo

Are we talking about the same alt right who thought bleach might be a good solution to the problem?

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It was definitely kill or cure

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

There's no evidence , in these two links you have already posted by the way that the lab theory is correct

In fact the words " low confidence " are used

I am happy for any " truth " to come out should that be the point of all this but it's not forthcoming

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Until that point you will believe the Chinese communist party.

What a fraud you are Sludgy!

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Until that point you will believe the Chinese communist party.

What a fraud you are Sludgy!

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I think I'd tend to believe the Chinese Communist Party before Trump nutters.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Until that point you will believe the Chinese communist party.

What a fraud you are Sludgy!

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I will believe them as much as that cttt trump and his crew of goosesteppers

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I will believe them as much as that cttt trump and his crew of goosesteppers

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Well that's ****ing stupid of you isn't it.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Well that's ****ing stupid of you isn't it.

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Coming from someone backing up Trump that's irony on a base level

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Coming from someone backing up Trump that's irony on a base level

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1,000,s of people died alone which was nothing to do with Trump, but because of spineless cucks like you and with all the evidence available you still refuse to consider it because of your hated you sad little man.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

1,000,s of people died alone which was nothing to do with Trump, but because of spineless cucks like you and with all the evidence available you still refuse to consider it because of your hated you sad little man.

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You can't have it both ways

You can't come out with silly nonsense regarding covid yet every day there are stories like the young girl , 16 ....you lot said it only damaged the elderly .....who today in Welsh news has talked about the devastating effects of long covid

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

1,000,s of people died alone which was nothing to do with Trump, but because of spineless cucks like you and with all the evidence available you still refuse to consider it because of your hated you sad little man.

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BBC News - Long Covid: Young people describe 'battle' to access NHS care - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9yl50zkmmo

Its all a hoax

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You can't have it both ways

You can't come out with silly nonsense regarding covid yet every day there are stories like the young girl , 16 ....you lot said it only damaged the elderly .....who today in Welsh news has talked about the devastating effects of long covid

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TBH Sludge i was just annoying you, you do it to me!!!
There is too much about C19 that is very personnel to our family as i suspect it is to many/most families, so carry on arguing over everything else, but because of the effect to so many, thats it from me on Covid. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

TBH Sludge i was just annoying you, you do it to me!!!
There is too much about C19 that is very personnel to our family as i suspect it is to many/most families, so carry on arguing over everything else, but because of the effect to so many, thats it from me on Covid. :thumbup:

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OK HB ��

If Rambo doesn't take the job do you think Doris will give you a weekend pass on a short term contract ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

OK HB ��

If Rambo doesn't take the job do you think Doris will give you a weekend pass on a short term contract ?

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We are getting tickets for Saturday, 1st live game for a year or so, meal in town after with a few G & T,s, I know how to woo a bird 🤣

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

We are getting tickets for Saturday, 1st live game for a year or so, meal in town after with a few G & T,s, I know how to woo a bird 🤣

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Lucky Lady 😆

Will you both get leathered?

🚨 BREAKING

@EU_Commission now admits that the #COVID mRNA injections were released for use in humans without "complete" safety data.

'Trust the science" turned out to be a lie. Profit was prioritized over safety.

Those who questioned the narrative were silenced, censored, and cancelled. People were mocked and marginalized for refusing the shots. It's time for accountability.

Armchair critic and football fan Lardy says otherwise, but vaccine sceptics and the conspiracy massive unfortunately are going to be on the correct side of history with this one.

Sauce?

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Originally Posted by stevo

Sauce?

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Jerk maybe?

Is this just more confirmation that all vaccines were developed and released on a ‘fast track’ that deliberately (and publicly) did not follow the ‘normal’ process and timeline - as we all knew at the time because it was not a secret - it was shared with a megaphone.

If the normal timeline had been followed the first vaccines would have been delayed for more than a year - leading to many more premature deaths and the likely collapse of the NHS and other health services.

There is always risk with vaccines and a bigger risk with a fast track programme - but my recollection was that politicians, scientists and public health professionals, along with the public, were convinced the greatest risk was delay.

There may have been lies, unacknowledged short cuts and massive profiteering in the mix. There may be a scandal to expose. But as far as I recall the reduced testing regime before release is not one of them.

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Originally Posted by stevo

Sauce?

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Appears to be this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 BREAKING<a href="https://twitter.com/EU_Commission?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EU_Commission</a> now admits that the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID</a> mRNA injections were released for use in humans without &quot;complete&quot; safety data.<br><br>'Trust the science&quot; turned out to be a lie. Profit was prioritized over safety.<br><br>Those who questioned the narrative were silenced, censored,… <a href="https://t.co/cIhKv4Iqvl">pic.twitter.com/cIhKv4Iqvl</a></p>&mdash; Rob Roos 🇳🇱 (@Rob_Roos) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rob_Roos/status/1968000600076915111?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Interestingly, Grok - which Heathblue often posts on here - has this to say in the replies

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The EU Commission has not issued an official statement admitting COVID mRNA vaccines were released without complete safety data. Reports citing this often refer to ongoing transparency disputes over procurement (e.g., &quot;Pfizergate&quot;), but EMA maintains the vaccines met…</p>&mdash; Grok (@grok) <a href="https://twitter.com/grok/status/1968253918485660137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Five years on, and the billions of people who took the vaccine are in for a nasty surprise. Any day now. Just you wait.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Five years on, and the billions of people who took the vaccine are in for a nasty surprise. Any day now. Just you wait.

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Why didn't the silly fools just inject themselves with bleach? Donald Trump now looks a picture of health after he did.

What’s needed is a vaccine against brainwashing

I knew we had a couple of experts, but am shocked at how many PHD's we have on here

https://substack.com/@maryannedemasi

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

I knew we had a couple of experts, but am shocked at how many PHD's we have on here

https://substack.com/@maryannedemasi

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Does that mean you're judging Maryanne Demasi purely on the fact she has a PhD and therefore knows what she's talking about? The peer reviewed paper she references has come under quite a bit of scrutiny by the author's peers.